Pop suckers butthurt about Pop's and Bonners grade and being proven wrong on Bonner by timvp..
The next Popper meeting will feature special cupcakes from dumpsterr, of course with the "secret ingredient" that's sure to be a hit!
The butthurt is hilarious, Timvp owning the Bonner CHOKER lovers.
But unfortunately it' not good for our team that Bonner sucks so much and has NO BALLS in the playoffs, I really wish the CHOKER could hit a few shots wtf. I'm hoping he comes around, tbh. Even a broken clock strikes...ahh it.
By tanking I don't mean losing a game you clearly have a shot to win. It means giving up on a game you're clearly not going to win. In the clippers game the spurs had a terrible 1st qtr and then started getting their together. Last night the spurs started terrible and kept getting worse against a much better team than the clippers. Pop did the right thing, deserves a better grade for doing it.
I realized well before it became common knowledge this season that the four best teams in the league were the Spurs, Heat, Bulls and Thunder. But I also realized that, while the Thunder merited mention with the other three regular season wise, that they're not yet ready to win a championship.
If the situations were reversed and the Spurs snapped the Thunder's 20 game winning streak at home in game three, down 0-2, behind 19 points from a guy who rarely scores in double digits, people would say "Well, what did you expect? They weren't going to get swept, they have too much pride for that and the Thunder were due to lose. But it's not like the Spurs can count on 19 points from Bonner again. Their coaching staff will make a few adjustments and they'll be fine."
Duncan's post game in this series is downright perplexing. I touched on it a few days ago, but it bears repeating. He's reverting to the same two shots he's often relied on the past few seasons, the same two shots that have been noticeably absent during his resurgence the past four months. It's either a sign of his knee beginning to bother him again, fatigue or both.Tim Duncan D
With the typical plays on offense being engulfed by the long-armed athletes on OKC, Tim Duncan tried to carry the team on his shoulders. In retrospect, it was a mistake. These days, Duncan can't win playoff games by scoring from the low block. That is especially true against a Thunder team that has solid post defenders and a bevy of capable double-teamers. Defensively, Duncan defended the rim well but the rest of his D was lacking. His individual defense wasn't as dominating as we've come to expect. His pick-and-roll defense, along with his transition defense, was a step slow. Rebounding was another area of weakness on this night. For the Spurs to win this series, Duncan will need to resume his role and avoid straying from what has worked. I give him credit for trying to come to the rescue but ultimately he just made things worse.
Either way, he's got to be smarter. Perkins lacks lateral quickness to begin with and that fact is only exacerbated by him nursing an injured hip. Yet I'm not sure I've seen Duncan catch-turn-face and take him off the dribble once. It's inexplicable. No bank shots, no running hooks and very little in the way of pivots, fakes or spins. Just constant going-nowhere-pounding and forcing up weak, low percentage shots.
I knew Green was due to cool off shooting-wise, but has he been inflicted with a case of Bonner-itis? All of a sudden, he looks afraid of the moment. That shot-out-of-a-cannon energy is gone. He needs a stern talking to about how his effectiveness shouldn't be determined by his three-point shooting. They need him to snap out of it and fast.Danny Green C
Danny Green's struggles are one of the most distressing aspects of this series thus far. Game 3 just added to that. While he didn't overtly struggle as much as he did in Game 1 and the fourth quarter of Game 2, Green clearly wasn't playing with his normal level of confidence. Offensively, he's not amounting to anything more than a one-dimensional three-point shooter. And considering he's 3-for-15 on threes this series, that's not good -- to say the least. Defensively, while Green did a good job of challenging Russell Westbrook's shots, he also gave him way too many driving lanes. Westbrook more than made up for his poor shooting night by penetrating and finding wide open players on the perimeter. If Green is going to continue defending Westbrook, he needs to better stay in front of him.
I've had it with Bonner. I've been as patient with him as anyone, but it's beyond obvious he shouldn't be in the rotation going forward. They don't need him in this match-up and they won't in the Finals, either. The Thunder's and Heat's primary backup PF's are really SF's. Bonner needed to hit over 40% of his 3's to justify his playing time. And as you've pointed out, he's barely hitting over a quarter of them. That's not nearly good enough and it should spell the end of him playing a meaningful second.Matt Bonner D-
Ugh. Is Matt Bonner capable of thriving at this level of compe ion? I just don't see it. Defensively, he lacked in physicality and swiftness. To make matters worse, he made a few mental mistakes in rotations. While he rebounded at an halfway acceptable clip, his boxing out was poor. Offensively, not only was he missing shots, he was passing up open looks to dribble the ball into the middle. Against the Thunder's length and activity, that's suicide for Bonner. Since the first game of the playoffs, Bonner is shooting 26.9% from the field and 26.3% on three-pointers. As much as I want to find a rational explanation for his lack of marksmanship, the reality that Bonner is a playoff choker is just becoming impossible to overlook.
He really needs to man up. His defense has been soft in the playoffs, his rebounding pathetic, as well as his free throw shooting and his post game has been nonexistent.Tiago Splitter D
One of the most effective adjustments the Thunder made was to switch on picks set by Tiago Splitter. The reason it was so effective was because Splitter failed to score when defended against much smaller players. As I'm sure Pop will hammer into his brain over the next 24 hours, Splitter has to bury smaller players under the basket and then go straight into his shot. Catching the ball and relying on post moves to score on players much smaller than him is a losing proposition. Let's hope Splitter can make the adjustment because he's a vital part of this team. If the Thunder effectively negate his effectiveness for the duration of the series, the Spurs are in seriously trouble. Defensively, Splitter was also quiet. He was usually a step slow when it came to protecting the rim and he didn't always use his length to his advantage.
It was obvious early that he needed to be given a look before this game got out of hand. Why he wasn't, I have no idea. If the same thing repeats itself in game four, he needs to be in much earlier. I know they don't want to pair him with Splitter and they don't want to start him either. But it's not rocket science. Bring him in for Diaw at roughly the 7:00 minute mark. Then he can be paired with Duncan for a good 4-5 minutes and play against their big lineup mostly.DeJuan Blair Inc.
DeJuan Blair played the final ten minutes of the game and continued his habit of destroying the Thunder. For whatever reasons, he just always plays well against Oklahoma City. Obviously, there wasn't much on the line during garbage time but Blair's production might be difficult for Pop to totally ignore. (And I don't know if it's an optical illusion due to his haircut but I thought Blair looked noticeably skinnier than the last time we saw him play.)
Blake, you took the time to find one of my posts regarding Spirituality. Now go back and re-read it. If you can find just one word in that post that is untrue or innaccurate-then do it. You won't. Every word there is measured.
When the Sage points to the moon--all the idiot sees is the finger pointing. Don't be that idiot Blake. Re-read it and it will give you the answer and it will have nothing to do with whether the messenger is enlightened or not. It is the message-not the messenger.
I would not have the slightest idea if I were or not enlightened. No-one would. They would be too busy living moment to moment.
Thanks buddy.
Watch out with that mdumpster guy though, he seems pretty butthurt all the time ... and well...kinda gay too.
I was extremely tired last night when I watched the game, and since I am not home I couldn't watch a replay today. So maybe I missed some things that I shouldn't have missed, but it seemed to me that the entire team didn't care enough to play better than they did.
Having said that, when I noticed the slow, cautious pace at the beginning of the game I figured it was a deliberate attempt to counter the frenetic pace that the Thunder came out with, and it worked early on when we came back to tie the score.
After that, our motion offense simply stopped. There was no motion. Tim would get the ball from Tony and immediately look around and then go into his 4-down mode which frankly killed us. If he is not making his post shots (and he clearly couldn't last night against a very energized Perkins) he needs to keep the ball moving or move out to the elbow.
In this situation, Timvp, it seems to me that we just forget grades, because everyone is ticked off and no one except Stephen Jackson scored well. You noted that Duncan seemed to play pretty good defense, but since he only got 2 rebounds during the entire game, I would have to disagree with some of that.
Manu shot only 20% from the field and had 4 turnovers.
Tony shot 50% from the filed and only had one more turnover than Manu did and Steven Jackson did. Five turnovers is too many for him, but at least he contributed in other areas.
You pointed out that Sefalosha had a career high point total, using that to criticize Tony's defensive effort, but it took Sefalosha something like 14 shots to get those 19 points. In fact, Sefalosha's point percentage was about the same as Duncan's IIRC, and you credit the Thunder defense with having done a good job on Duncan, so I'm unsure what logic is being used there. Moreover, I would suggest that Sefalosha's point production had more to do with Westbrook having taken the suggestions of the entire Western world and actually giving up the ball to his teammates occasionally for some of Sefalosha's point production. The fact that Westbrook shot only 30% was about what he has been shooting in these playoffs, so it was not as though he went into poor shooting mode only when Parker was no longer on him.
I'm glad that Duncan reached the record books with his blocks.
Next game I hope he has more rebounds and moves the ball better.
Let's all hope that next game is better for everyone, but lots of us figured last night would be the most likely loss night for the Spurs, and it was.
Time to move on.
how did you come up with this formula to enlightenment?
Blake losing imo
Bonner wouldn't even shoot during garbage time!
The problem is precisely that-formulas.
No formula can ever give you a true representation of reality. Whenever anyone tries to "find" or "discover" enlightenment they are already lost.
1 loss after a 20 game win streak and suddenly everyone is crapping themselves in doubt. Wow a losing streak of ........... ONE!!! Quick call the advisors and analysts in we are having a mid-life crisis!!! ARRRGGGGHHHHH
In truth - the Spurs played badly, didn't move the ball and suffered from a lapse of concentration. Westbrook only shot 5/15 FGs but Thunder rode Thabo hard for a win to make it ........ 1-2!!
It is called an 'off night' as would be expected after 48 days of winning.
Still
I agree there's no reason to panic yet. The Spurs reacted pretty well to their last loss by going on a 20 game tear. In the past few games it felt like they had been sleepwalking a little. The Spurs need to feel the sting of this loss and come out next game with something to prove.
Thanks for the write-up, timvp.
I have say that I believe, too, that Jax deserves a little bit more credit. Sure, maybe it was too late... but he continued to shoot those dagger 3's, never backed down, and he was screaming his head off at the rest of the team to get their together already. Jax just would not give up. No way, No how.
Oh well... praying to God that another winning streak will begin tomorrow.
Let us move on from this now!
... Onto Game 4 we go!!
Pop deserved a D-
DPG90210 trying to troll, per the usual
So you just made up. Again.
Did Pop even try to coach this game. Going into the third when the players came out flat again, their coach matched their intensity. Seriously, why not stop the bleeding. He looked more worried about a foul call that didn't go Tim's way rather than responding to Tim's lack of energy and results. The team was struggling to score, and OKC were finding ways to score from all angles
Knowing Manu, his compe ive edge would of been saying "get me out there Pop". Into 5min mark , down by 18 is too late.
We need our game changer's out there as much as possible. Pop looked more intent on teaching a lesson and waving the white flag early. The bold adjustments and never give up at ude of the previous 2 series seemed to be yesterday's news.
Kinda of reminded me of that old driver on the road. Full of experience and skill , just slow to respond.
Blake and Dumpsters ultimate fantasy waiting for them when they get home together..
wow bonner is a huge waste of suck
Blake and Dumpsters ultimate fantasy waiting for them when they get home together..
You don't seem to understand or are able to comprehend anything you read.
Formulas cannot adequately describe reality.
Any formula for enlightenment, for example, will only result in more confusion.
Look at religion;
Religion tries to give people a formula for getting near god/love/freedom and all the people do is grasp at some formula and concentrate on the worship, the sinning and judging and they never are able to understand anything about god/love/freedom.
Here's a little story example of what I'm referring to;
The Mystic was back from the desert. "Tell us," they said, "what God is like."
But how could he ever tell what he had experienced in his heart? Can God be put into words?
He finally gave them a formula-so innaccurate, so inadequate- in the hope that some of them might be tempted to experience it for themselves.
They seized upon the formula. They made it a sacred text. They imposed it on others as a holy belief. They went to great pains to spread it in foreign lands. Some even gave their lives for it.
The Mystic was sad. It might have been better if he had said nothing.
Blake: Matty, now don't forget it's my turn to take your big red rocket through the goalposts.. pdumpster got it last night!Blake and Dumpsters ultimate fantasy waiting for them when they get home together..
You guys are still talking about the sex you hope other men are having?
lol
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