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    Danny Green is trash but Hairston is even tier tbh....
    For 0.83 M, I'd say Green was a bargain.
    I can think of 30 players in his position that are more trash at 3 times that salary.
    As for hairston at this point in his career, he is way better than Green or neal were before becoming Spurs.

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    Keeping Green without overpaying him should be one of the Spurs top priorities in the offseason. Some of you overreact to too much...these were Greens first playoffs and first season with significant playing time. He definitely faded at the end but I think overall he did really well this year.
    'Faded' is putting it lightly.

    Danny Green in 91:01 minutes played:

    8-31 overall, and only 4-23 from three (only took 8 non-threes so he's in the Matt Bonner category at this point). All of zero free throws. 2 steals compared to 5 turnovers.

    Regardless of his inefficiency, that's plenty of shots to get going. If he was "slumping", it was a gargantuan one. But we all know he wasn't. He choked, hard. Maybe one day he won't be one but I won't be defending him Bonner-style until he proves the world right. Life isn't fair.

    He didn't manage 8 minutes in the final two games when the Spurs desperately needed him on both sides of the floor after playing big minutes all season. We NEEDED him. And he didn't produce.

    I have no sympathy for the dude. But because of salary realities the Spurs probably hold onto him and hope he doesn't fail so epically next time around. If there is a next time.

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    To be fair even Tony chocked the first time he was in the playoffs and without Speedy we don't have one of those rings. I will give anyone a second chance but freakin Bonner sackless arse needs to be GONE>........................


    Ps. If we do keep Green the coaching staff needs to put his but through basic boot camp. I am OK with missing the open shots it happens but not able to dribble the ball and all of his turnovers no freakin way..

    1. Practice how to dribble
    2. Practice how to take it to the whole strong and FINISH STRONG
    3. Practice mid range game..

    DO NOT BECOME A BONNER IE..ONE DIMENSIONAL PLAYER

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    'Faded' is putting it lightly.

    Danny Green in 91:01 minutes played:

    8-31 overall, and only 4-23 from three (only took 8 non-threes so he's in the Matt Bonner category at this point). All of zero free throws. 2 steals compared to 5 turnovers.

    Regardless of his inefficiency, that's plenty of shots to get going. If he was "slumping", it was a gargantuan one. But we all know he wasn't. He choked, hard. Maybe one day he won't be one but I won't be defending him Bonner-style until he proves the world right. Life isn't fair.

    He didn't manage 8 minutes in the final two games when the Spurs desperately needed him on both sides of the floor after playing big minutes all season. We NEEDED him. And he didn't produce.

    I have no sympathy for the dude. But because of salary realities the Spurs probably hold onto him and hope he doesn't fail so epically next time around. If there is a next time.
    To me part of that is on Pop. You need to be able to help your players remain confident when they're struggling. Do you think the same thing would have happened to Green if he was playing for Scott Brooks? Scott Brooks had Daequan Cook at the end of his bench playing more confident than most of our team.

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    Green doesn't have the tools to become an impact player in the later stages of the year, against quality teams..he'll be fine against horrible teams like Utah, and poorly coached teams like the Clippers(a banged up Clippers, too), but good teams will expose him..

    As I've been saying all year, he's a streaky spot-up shooter that occasionally produces in other facets of the game, which is an improvement over previous Spurs perimeter role players, thus creating the delusions that he's an all-around player..this is the same team and fanbase that hyped Garrett Temple, because he was a role player with an all-around game..

    He plays average defense and he can't finish at the rim on a consistent basis..he simply lacks the athleticism to be anything more than a 9th man on a good team..if another team is foolish enough to pay him a substantial amount, let him walk..

    I didn't even touch on another serious issue, his apparent fear of pressure situations..I don't want another Bonner/Jefferson..

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    It's unfortunate but he didn't just fall off a cliff, he fell off a mountain. His defense becoming absolute garbage overnight is extremely discouraging, much more so than his shot drying up when the pressure hit.
    I'm not sure about Danny anymore as he was pretty bad in the OKC series, but it was only his first playoffs getting minutes. He started for a Championship level team and did well the first two rounds. That's more than a lot of playoff rookies have done.

    In comparison Bonner has sucked completely from his first ever Spurs playoff game, yet the FO keep bringing him back. You all should be getting mad about Bonner like I have been the last few years and demand that he be off the team.

    I think Danny deserves another chance if the money isn't too much. Since he faded, the most I would offer him is what the Spurs offered Sjax in 2003.

    Personally I wouldn't even offer him that much, but if a team starts throwing money at him, the most I would offer is a contract at a similar level to the one they offered Sjax, and only for 2 seasons, otherwise let him walk.

    For 0.83 M, I'd say Green was a bargain.
    I can think of 30 players in his position that are more trash at 3 times that salary.
    As for hairston at this point in his career, he is way better than Green or neal were before becoming Spurs.
    Has Hairston become that good? I really liked him and wanted Pop to actually give him some playing time to see what he can do.

    Do you get to watch Hairston on a regular basis?
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    I'd say that Hariston 48% in Euroleague and 42% in the Italian league from 3 is not exactly never hitting them.
    I'd say the .167 for his NBA career on 3 pointers is a better indicator of what he will do in the future in the NBA than some stats from lesser leagues.

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    To me part of that is on Pop. You need to be able to help your players remain confident when they're struggling. Do you think the same thing would have happened to Green if he was playing for Scott Brooks? Scott Brooks had Daequan Cook at the end of his bench playing more confident than most of our team.
    Theres not alot of time in the playoffs, to try and coddle a player, hoping he breaks out of a slump. If you didn't try so hard to troll your Pop hate, you would realize this.

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    If they over pay let him walk if they don't get him in the gym and work the holes in his game. All in all for his first major minutes and major role on our team he was nice continue to get better who knows he might surprise us.

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    If they over pay let him walk if they don't get him in the gym and work the holes in his game. All in all for his first major minutes and major role on our team he was nice continue to get better who knows he might surprise us.
    Take him, but can we have Jajuan Johnson in return

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    I'm not sure about Danny anymore as he was pretty bad in the OKC series, but it was only his first playoffs getting minutes. He started for a Championship level team and did well the first two rounds. That's more than a lot of playoff rookies have done.

    In comparison Bonner has sucked completely from his first ever Spurs playoff game, yet the FO keep bringing him back. You all should be getting mad about Bonner like I have been the last few years and demand that he be off the team.

    I think Danny deserves another chance if the money isn't too much. Since he faded, the most I would offer him is what the Spurs offered Sjax in 2003.

    Personally I wouldn't even offer him that much, but if a team starts throwing money at him, the most I would offer is a contract at a similar level to the one they offered Sjax, and only for 2 seasons, otherwise let him walk.



    Has Hairston become that good? I really liked him and wanted Pop to actually give him some playing time to see what he can do.

    Do you get to watch Hairston on a regular basis?
    Yes. On TV and live some time.
    Hairston had a nice year last year culminating with being the key factor in Siena reaching Euroleague final 4.
    Then Siena let him walk, because Milano offered more money (and they are good enough to win anyway).
    He started well this year (on a bad team), and again was key in getting his team in Euroleague top 16, by having a huge game at Pionir against Partizan.
    Anyone that has played there knows what I am talking about. Most intimidating place on earth.
    Big big huevos.
    Then he was hurt and had surgery.
    He reemerged in spring, and led his team to the Italian finals, now going on.

    Like someone suggested, the major problem in bringing Hairston back is how much he demands.

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    I'd say the .167 for his NBA career on 3 pointers is a better indicator of what he will do in the future in the NBA than some stats from lesser leagues.
    Anthony Parker,
    Gary Neal,
    Matt Bonner
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    Danny Green
    say hi.

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    like most here said: See what he is been given...if its less than 2,5mio match, if its more than 3,5mio don't match...everything in between depends on other things (does the FO feel De Collo can give us something, is there any other wing the FO likes ect.)

    I dont feel like he is a bust just because he hit a bad streak (I'm not sure it was coz of pressure...he is just streaky!), but I wouldnt cove him prime money either.

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    Spurs can bring back Malik Hairston for a fraction of what Green might cost.
    He's had two very good years, has lots of experience now, including clutch shots at Pionir, to keep Milano in the Euroleague top 16.
    Anyone who can make shots at Pionir in the 4th will have no problems with NBA playoffs.
    Tough kid.

    Please do not bring back Hairston. That guy was when he was here. I dont give a damn what he did at the rec league. Green is younger and has much more upside than that scrub Hairston. People just need to get over their infatuation with him. He's in Europe for a reason.

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    We can find another Danny Green in our system with ease. He will not do anything outside of Pop's offense.

    No way I'm paying him much.

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    Hmmm... are the KG rumors related to this rumor?

    Celtics send up feelers for Green therefore bumping up price tag.

    Spurs retaliate by leaking rumors of interest in KG, therefore also bumping up price tag.

    Celtics can't afford to pay both a higher price tag and are likely to defend acquisition of KG rather than make play for Green.

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    cool they can have him. he shot something like 32% FG and 22% 3PTFG in the WCF.
    Do not want another playoff choker, we have to many of them anyway. Bye Danny

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    Stop the presses! Young player plays badly in first tough playoff series.

    You all have short memories. Green was great all year and still very good in the first 2 rounds. One bad series for a player in his first Conference Finals is nothing out of the ordinary.

    If Green is a playoff choker because of this one series, I guess that makes Parker one too. Better trade them both.

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    Stop the presses! Young player plays badly in first tough playoff series.

    You all have short memories. Green was great all year and still very good in the first 2 rounds. One bad series for a player in his first Conference Finals is nothing out of the ordinary.

    If Green is a playoff choker because of this one series, I guess that makes Parker one too. Better trade them both.
    I agree. I put part of the blame on Pop. You know you're guy is struggling. You've got to help him remain confident. That's the one thing you can't lose.

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    Nope...Green is . Keep him if you can get him for cheap. If not, then he can go screw-over the Celtics instead of us in next years playoffs....

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    Some of you need to give Green a break it was his first playoffs unlike Parker and Bonner.

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    Send them Bonner for a signed picture of Larry Bird holding the 1985/86 NBA championship trophy

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    Some of you need to give Green a break it was his first playoffs unlike Parker and Bonner.
    I also think part of it was Pop going away from him in favor of SJax. I think Green played very few minutes at the 3 against the Thunder unlike against the Thunder. Playing with a guy like Manu would have helped him though. SJax was probably just as bad against the Clippers as Green was against the Thunder.

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    Some of you need to give Green a break it was his first playoffs unlike Parker and Bonner.
    Well he wasn't missing many shots in the 1st 2 rounds; he picked the wrong time to choke.

    But as somebody mentioned Green is purely a result of the system & is easily replaceable.

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    He will have a few teams willing to give him 3-4 mill per year. Spurs may let him walk if they make a deal with portland for the 6 and 11th picks. Splitter is likely gonna be in trade talks as Portland needs a Center.

    At 6 Spurs like Waiters as an athletic sg who can do it all. Spurs blowing smoke with Drummond. At 11 Jones from Kentucky, Henson from NC and Lenord from Ill are all targets.

    Green is solid, but with Neal and Manu, and maybe Nado we have Sgs we need a star at that spot, not another roll player. I think Green Mills both walk, Splitter, Blair and Maybe Jax traded, BONNER bought out.
    Wait... Portland is supposed to trade #6 and #11... for Splitter?


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