LT retiring

[Blake]

So stats from back in the day are meaningless?

Apparently they're only meaningful if the teams have black Olympians.

[Avante]

Since offensive lineman and running backs were also smaller, the playing field was equal.



irrelevant.

That's why you keep those stats back where they belong.

I've noticing "all" those things you don't know are irrelevant...hahaha!

But a guy like Swink who competed against far inferior compe ion than LT isn't....hahaha!!!!!!!!!

[johnsmith]

You always go with the level of compe ion.

But...

You can go with....dominance of era. Nobody dominated their era like Jim Brown. Would he dominate today, of course not. Could he play, at 6-2 230 pounds with 4.5 speed absolutely.

We also have to keep in mind the lack of the black athlete when talking back in the day.

So then in your opinion, who is the best runningback of all time and why? Explain your answer with statistics, facts, analysis of running styles, the talent in the league at the time. I want an essay here.

[Blake]

That's why you keep those stats back where they belong.

I've noticing "all" those things you don't know are irrelevant...hahaha!

But a guy like Swink who competed against far inferior compe ion than LT isn't....hahaha!!!!!!!!!

Swink competed against the great black athlete Jim Brown in the 1957 Cotton Bowl.

And won.

You're a poser.

Bwahhaaaahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

So then in your opinion, who is the best runningback of all time and why? Explain your answer with statistics, facts, analysis of running styles, the talent in the league at the time. I want an essay here.

Not concerned what you want, don't want.

Jimmy Brown is the best running back of all time. All we can really go with is how a player did in their time. He averaged over 5 yards a carry for his career, he averaged 100 yards a game for his career. He never missed a game. He led the league in rushing every year but one in his career. He was on a whole different level than anyone seen before him with the possible exception of fellow Brown Marion Mottley.

People forget that Brown was a fullback, they also forget he made a ton of his yards running inside the tackles. Would you believe he also ran back kickoffs early in his career? A fullback running backs kicks?

Jim Brown was 6-2 230 pounds with 4.5ish speed back when defensive linemen weren't as big. So I'm going with "dominance of era" to get my answer. Nobody ever ran thru the NFL like Jimmy Brown.

It's when we start comparing players is when we have to bring in the differences in opposition.

[johnsmith]

Blake, you care to take this one?

[johnsmith]

You just don't get it do you Avante?

[Avante]

Swink competed against the great black athlete Jim Brown in the 1957 Cotton Bowl.

And won.

You're a poser.

Bwahhaaaahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you 13 years old?

Who is talking about anyone facing "one" black player? Dude, you've said a ton of stupid but that one is tops. That was beyond stupid!

[Avante]

You just don't get it do you Avante?

I totally get it. Go ahead see what others think about the best running back ever. Want me to list the best back for each team?

[johnsmith]

I totally get it. Go ahead see what others think about the best running back ever. Want me to list the best back for each team?

Now you're just being dumb on purpose. Don't you understand?

[Avante]

Now you're just being dumb on purpose. Don't you understand?

Dumb about what? Be specific.

If you're trying to play..."I'm trolling you"...well keep in mind I love to show off.

[Blake]

Not concerned what you want, don't want.

Jimmy Brown is the best running back of all time. All we can really go with is how a player did in their time. He averaged over 5 yards a carry for his career, he averaged 100 yards a game for his career. He never missed a game. He led the league in rushing every year but one in his career. He was on a whole different level than anyone seen before him with the possible exception of fellow Brown Marion Mottley.

People forget that Brown was a fullback, they also forget he made a ton of his yards running inside the tackles. Would you believe he also ran back kickoffs early in his career? A fullback running backs kicks?

Jim Brown was 6-2 230 pounds with 4.5ish speed back when defensive linemen weren't as big. So I'm going with "dominance of era" to get my answer. Nobody ever ran thru the NFL like Jimmy Brown.

It's when we start comparing players is when we have to bring in the differences in opposition.

Then he should have kicked the out of TCU in the Cotton.

But he didn't.

Can you believe a white guy like Swink actually had to try to tackle Jim Brown and then get up and play running back?

[Blake]

Dumb about what? Be specific.

If you're trying to play..."I'm trolling you"...well keep in mind I love to show off.

Dumb about relevant football history

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

More ppl making chump meat out of RaZon tbh

[Avante]

Dumb about relevant football history

You haven't done anything at all to show me you know anything about anything.

[Avante]

More ppl making chump meat out of RaZon tbh

What are you looking at

[Avante]

Then he should have kicked the out of TCU in the Cotton.

But he didn't.

Can you believe a white guy like Swink actually had to try to tackle Jim Brown and then get up and play running back?

I hate to break it to you like this slick but there are 11 players on offense.

Are you related to Swink or something. Sure he was good but not all that. What would he have done if he were facing big speedy black backs game after game, something he didn't do in the SWC.

[Blake]

I totally get it. Go ahead see what others think about the best running back ever. Want me to list the best back for each team?

I want you to list your betting picks for the upcoming season.

[Blake]

You haven't done anything at all to show me you know anything about anything.

I'm not claiming anything about my expertise. You are.

And you are failing at it.

[Blake]

I hate to break it to you like this slick but there are 11 players on offense.

Are you related to Swink or something. Sure he was good but not all that. What would he have done if he were facing big speedy black backs game after game, something he didn't do in the SWC.

I might be. I don't really know.

Are you related to early black football players?

[Avante]

I'm not claiming anything. You are.

And you are failing at it.

You're the one who can't answer anything asked. If that ain't failing what is?

[Avante]

I might be. I don't really know.

Are you related to early black football players?

Nope, I'm very white.

I just understand what black athletes bring to the game. They have that quickness, agility and speed we just don't see from white athletes. Yes I know...Wes Welker, now give me the name of a great white running back or cornerback or kick returner or current wide receiver?

[Blake]

You're the one who can't answer anything asked. If that ain't failing what is?

I didn't sign up for Meaningless Olympic Black Football Players 101, Professor .

in fact, nobody did.

[Avante]

I want you to list your betting picks for the upcoming season.

Right now we have to wait and watch that injury list. Yes up until the preseason is over. Who is healthy is what we are into right now? Will MJD be in camp? What about Drew Brees? That where us handicappers are at right now.

[Avante]

I didn't sign up for Meaningless Olympic Black Football Players 101, Professor .

in fact, nobody did.

Yet you signed up for meaningless TCU players back in the 50's who played against slow and small white guys. Gotcha!

Here ya go amigo, the fastest sprinters from those SWC schools. Talking alumni...

Rice...Kareem Street Thompson
Baylor...MJ
Houston...Carl Lewis
Arkansas..Tyson Gay
Texas...Johnny Jones
Texas Tech...Tyree Giles
SMU...Roy Martin
Texas A&M...Andre Cason
TCU...Darvis Patton

All black sprinters.

The fastest white sprinter was John Roderick out of SMU, he was a 9.3 guy and an NFLer, he played with Miami. Did nothing.