General 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

[TheCerebral1]

Considering how deep this draft is with big men, anyone think we might give up Splitter in a deal with Neal for a pick?

There's no way Splitter is traded. Considering his handle, passing, and defensive capabilities as well as being able to run there is little chance. Blair, and other talents may be more available. Who knows. I didn't expect George Hill to be traded last year.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Jonathan Givony says on his Y! mock draft that it's pretty common knowledge that Houston's second first round pick, #16 overall, is likely in play.

[mountainballer]

Chad Ford is just twittering the masurements from the combine!

Chad Ford: I have official measurements from #NBACombine Brad Beal6' 3.25" socks 6' 4.75" shoes and 6' 8" wing 8' 3" reach about 17 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Kendall Marshall 6'3.25" socks 6' 4.25" shoes and 6' 5.5" wing 7' 10.5" reach 1 minute ago

Chad Ford: Jeremy Lamb 6' 4" socks 6' 5.25" shoes and 6' 11" wing 8' 5" reach 3 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Perry Jones 6' 10.25" socks 6' 11.5" shoes and 7' 1.75" wing 8' 10.5" reach 4 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Austin Rivers 6' 3.5" socks 6' 5" shoes and 6' 7.25" wing 8' 1" reach 4 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Dion Waiters 6' 2.5" socks 6' 4" shoes and 6' 7.35" wing 8' 2" reach about 5 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Damian Lillard 6'1.75" socks 6' 2.75" shoes and 6' 7.5" wing 8' 0" reach about 6 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Jared Sullinger 6' 7.75" socks 6' 9" shoes and 7' 1.25" wing 8' 11" reach about 7 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Terrence Jones 6' 8.25" socks 6' 9.5" shoes and 7' 2.5" wing 8' 9.5 reach about 9 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 6' 5.75" socks 6' 7.5" shoes and 7' 0" wing 8'8.5" reach. Great measurement for him #NBACombine about 11 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Thomas Robinson 6' 7.75" socks 6' 8.75" shoes and 7' 3.25" wing 8' 10" reach about 12 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Andre Drummond 6' 9.75" socks 6' 11.75" shoes and 7' 6.25" wing 9' 1.5" reach. FREAKY about 14 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Anthony Davis 6' 9.25" socks 6' 10.5" shoes and 7' 5.5" wing 9' 0" reach about 15 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1xCzqQutF

[mountainballer]

Chad Ford: Highest body fat: J'Covan Brown. 12.5% Lowest Jared Cunningham 3.6% 1 minute ago

Chad Ford: John Henson 6' 9" socks 6' 10.5" shoes and 7' 5" wing 9' 3.5" reach 2 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Meyers Leonard 6' 11.75" socks 7' 1.25" shoes and 7' 3" wing 9' 0.5" reach 3 minutes ago

Chad Ford: Tyler Zeller 6' 11.25" socks 7' 0.5" shoes and 7' 0" wing 8' 8" reach 4 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1xD0m23S2

[mountainballer]

pictures from a list he obviously has taken with his mobile.....

http://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/s.../photo/1/large
http://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/s.../photo/1/large

[mountainballer]

Bobcats are shopping the #2 pick.
guess MJ is afraid to once more blow this one.
talking to Grizzlies about Rudy Gay?

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/06/06/1...26&feedID=8888

[yavozerb]

pictures from a list he obviously has taken with his mobile.....

Robinson measuring almost 6'9 is huge for his draft status..

[mountainballer]

yes, I think Robinson, Beal and Henson are the winners of this measurements.

Robinson is big enough for PF (great wingspan as well), Beal at almost 6'5 is big enough for a NBA 2 and Henson has fantastic numbers for a shot blocker and defensive specialist. Terrence Jones at almost 6'10 will help his stock big time as well. (should push him into lottery area)

[CGD]

Drummond has crazy measurements too.

[taps]

When I think about Spurs tradeable assets it's something like:
+Neal
+Blair
+Green
+Splitter
+2013 first round
+2nd round bags of chips.
-Maybe not Lorbek or Bonner, not familiar with Mills's sitchy.

That's 6 things (disclaimer don't know CBA restrictions here). I guess different combinations would bring different player(s). Unlikely the whole roster gets gutted to bring an all-nba 1stTeamer, but some of these guys are pretty good players and if you let go of a bunch of them FO will probably make it worth it - like high lotto time//veteran impact center//etc. Leonard basically only took Hill and 2012 first rounder.

I don't see the Spurs farting around too much trying to get late first rounders and more 2nd rounders, they seem more interested in 'can you make an impact now'? I like it leave the sentimentalism for guys who win playoff games.

[Drom John]

Hollinger bigs:
Anthony Davis
Jared Sullinger
Thomas Robinson
Draymond Green
Terrence Jones
Royce White
Furkan Aldemir
John Henson
Andre Drummond
Henry Sims
Perry Jones III
Leon Radosevic
JaMychel Green
Drew Gordon
Tyler Zeller
Anderew Nicholson
Quincy Acy
Fab Melo
Mike Scott
Robert Sacre
Cameron Moore
Meyers Leonard
Festus Ezeli
Arnett Moultrie

Last year, Hollinger's overall #5 was Kawhi Leonard.

[AFBlue]

FWIW, Hollinger caveats in his article that the calculation does not heavily weigh defense, which could legitimately effect draft stock of a couple players; he named Sully and Draymond Green.

[-21-]

So far the bigs that I think would fit well are John Henson, Terrence Jones, and Bernard James.

[Bruno]

Early entry list withdrawal:
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/06/20/e...ase/index.html

For #59, there is a good chance Spurs do a draft and stash with an Europe or with a college player ready to go in Europe (like James Gist). Looking closely at the international early entry list is interesting because Spurs pick might be in it.

7 international players early enters in the draft:
- 1 player (Fournier) should be drafted in the late first round .
- 4 players (Aldemir, Franch, Shengelia and Satoransky) have a good chance of being drafted in the second round. If Aldemir, Franch or Satoransky are available at #59, they would eb great picks.
- 2 players (Omic and Wojciechowski) aren't projected to be drafted. However, Omic is young and intriguing. I wouldn't be surprised that a team has made him a promise and that's why he is staying in the draft. Spurs at #59 could be that team.

Other than that, Spurs could too draft a player born in 1990. I like a lot Papanikolaou. Nihad Djedovic seems to be a fine prospect too but I don't really know him. Aside of them, the crop of 1990 born players seems weak.

[pad300]

Hey Bruno, have you seen Ilkan Karaman play? 1990 Born, playing in Turkey.

[Bruno]

Hey Bruno, have you seen Ilkan Karaman play? 1990 Born, playing in Turkey.

I've never seen him play.

[pad300]

I've never seen him play.

Damn, I was hoping for Euro insight. Statistically, he looks pretty good. My current hopes for #59 are Eric Griffin or Ilkan Karaman...Either could be a pretty useful piece.

[Bruno]

Last year, there were 46 workouts reported. This year it's 16 workouts so far with the draft being in less than a week. In these 16 workouts, only one (Draymond Green) is projected as a first round pick. Most of these 16 workouts were done too in mid May.

While it surely wasn't easy for Spurs to have good players working out for them with only the 59th pick, it looks too they have been relatively quiet this year. While it's impossible to draw definite conclusion from that, it surely looks like Spurs aren't that actively looking at draft prospects this year.

[Andthentherewas21]

Given what pieces they do have, and the people that would want them, I think their options are pretty limited. As Timvp has said in one of the Drummond forums, the only real way the Spurs move up is if someone like Portland falls in love with Splitter and is willing to package one of their picks around a Splitter centric deal.

[mountainballer]

Last year, there were 46 workouts reported. This year it's 16 workouts so far with the draft being in less than a week. In these 16 workouts, only one (Draymond Green) is projected as a first round pick. Most of these 16 workouts were done too in mid May.

While it surely wasn't easy for Spurs to have good players working out for them with only the 59th pick, it looks too they have been relatively quiet this year. While it's impossible to draw definite conclusion from that, it surely looks like Spurs aren't that actively looking at draft prospects this year.

Spurs just seem to do their homework, maybe even thinking about the Toro's roster more than the Spurs roster.
but judging from the reported workouts it seems as if they focus on PF and PG, which would make sense for the Spurs roster as well.
guys like Kyle O'Quinn and Jamychal Green should be gone at #59, but we know that some players slip, for whatever reason. a trade for a higher 2nd rounder also seems to be more realistic, than a 1st rounder. Cavs, Warriors, Blazers are for sure willing to listen to offers for one of their multiple 2nd rounders.

O'Quinn I would like to see at the Spurs. might have the potential to flourish like Taj Gibson in a compareable role.

[timvp]

Last year, there were 46 workouts reported. This year it's 16 workouts so far with the draft being in less than a week. In these 16 workouts, only one (Draymond Green) is projected as a first round pick. Most of these 16 workouts were done too in mid May.

While it surely wasn't easy for Spurs to have good players working out for them with only the 59th pick, it looks too they have been relatively quiet this year. While it's impossible to draw definite conclusion from that, it surely looks like Spurs aren't that actively looking at draft prospects this year.

Yeah, it really looks like:

1. The Spurs aren't interested in this draft. It could be the reason why they didn't think twice about trading away the first round pick to the Warriors. (Then again, getting rid of RJ was likely the main reason for that.)

2. The Spurs already know who they want. If they have their eyes on a player or two, their energy is probably focused on finding a way to trade up rather than looking at other prospects.

3. The Spurs have gone into ultra CIA mode and are finding ways to workout prospects without it hitting the news. Not sure how they'd do this -- though they could just tell prospects to STFU ... or they could be sending their scouts to workouts with other teams.



I'm leaning toward #1 being the truth. It would make sense that if you are bringing in De Colo and/or Lorbek, you probably don't have room for yet another inexperienced player. For the first time in a long while, the Spurs really don't need to get younger.

[timvp]

After a great EuroCamp and now strong workouts, French guard Paul Lacombe seems to be emerging as an intriguing draft and stash 2nd rounder.

Anyone know anything about Paul Lacombe?

[DPG21920]

Spurs pulled a large move last year for a guy in Kawhi that they didn't even workout, correct?

[Bruno]

Anyone know anything about Paul Lacombe?

I saw him play an handful of times this year and he is nothing special. Based on what I've seen, he isn't at all a legit draft prospect. He is neither good nor hasn't some kind of untapped potential.

[loveforthegame]

2. The Spurs already know who they want. If they have their eyes on a player or two, their energy is probably focused on finding a way to trade up rather than looking at other prospects.

I'm hoping it's this option but fear it's going to be number 1.

I'm not even talking a splashy trade like last year but just something that moves them up into the top half of the 2nd round.