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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    See for yourself:

    Guns and Self Defense

    It's interactive so, have fun!
    That link is not the enlightened progressive RSS feed. Verboten!

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    Sarah McLachlan tbh
    Was it you pointing out the other day that Japan has the lowest gun violence rate while having perhaps the most stringent gun control regulations?

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    I see Yoni provided some info. But I'm sure the number is grossly understated as it doesn't take into account all of the non-incidents due to a would be perp not wanting to take a chance.
    I agree but, the incidents of self-defense don't have to be proportional to the incidents of criminal gun violence.

    Using the tried and true Democrat maxim, "If it saves just one life, it's worth it," Concealed Carry Laws are worth it.

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    I agree but, the incidents of self-defense don't have to be proportional to the incidents of criminal gun violence.

    Using the tried and true Democrat maxim, "If it saves just one life, it's worth it," Concealed Carry Laws are worth it.
    agreed

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    Yeah, let's be like Japan!

    Japan: Gun Control and People Control

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    Was it you pointing out the other day that Japan has the lowest gun violence rate while having perhaps the most stringent gun control regulations?
    I read that the Aurora massacre's death count exceeded the total amount of gun-related deaths in Japan.

    But yeah, Japan has some crazy stringent gun control laws and virtually no gun-related deaths.

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    lol American Rifleman
    lol Mind Control

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    Explain that to the dead and injured. "Oh, don't worry, we have laws to deal with the shooter."

    We know of at least three people, in that theater that night, who showed extreme courage by sacrificing themselves to save someone they loved. Can you imagine if there had been three concealed handgun licensees in the theater, trained in active shooter scenarios, with a similar level of courage?

    I can. I can imagine a lot fewer than 13 dead and 58 injured.
    We need to arm teenagers that go to movie theaters!

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    lol American Rifleman
    lol Mind Control
    The article actually agrees with your statement,

    But yeah, Japan has some crazy stringent gun control laws and virtually no gun-related deaths.
    It basically says, sure, you can have Japan's low crime rate if you're willing to settle for a police state or, in your words, "crazy stringent gun control laws."

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    Gun banners might rejoice at a society where the police keep such a sharp eye on citizens' guns. But the price is that the police keep an eye on everything.

    Policemen are apt to tell people reading sexually-oriented magazines to read something more worthwhile. Japan's major official year-end police report includes statistics like "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." In 1985, the police determined that 37.4% of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had had sex "voluntarily." For the volunteers, 19.6% acted "out of curiosity", while for 18.1%, the motive was "liked particular boy." The year-end police report also includes sections on labor demands, and on anti-nuclear or anti-military demonstrations.
    lol if we adopt japanese gun control regulations, they'll come for my porno stash next!!!

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    The article actually agrees with your statement
    But not the most important part -- the conclusion

    It basically says, sure, you can have Japan's low crime rate if you're willing to settle for a police state or, in your words, "crazy stringent gun control laws."
    A police state where they're a-comin' for my porns!!!

    God Bless the USA!

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    I doubt the US could do what Japan is doing without some Cons utional amendment, thus the point is probably moot as far as "becoming Japan" when it comes to gun-control.

    But it does provide a kick in the teeth to the narrative that gun control only increases defenseless victims and thus, increased crime rates.

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    But not the most important part -- the conclusion
    No, even the conclusion. I read the article to say Japan's gun control laws have resulted in a lower, near non-existent, incidence of gun violence.

    Tell me, do you believe Americans would allow the types of gun control measures now in place in Japan?

    A police state where they're a-comin' for my porns!!!

    God Bless the USA!
    Actually, Japan has a high incidence of sexual assault on women and extremely liberal laws on access to and the display of pornography. There are sexually explicit displays everywhere and Japan is grappling (pun intended) with groping on their public transportation and in public areas.

    So, I'm not sure to what you're referring or to what you believe that excerpt is referring.

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    Actually, Japan has a high incidence of sexual assault on women
    How high compared to the US?

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    I doubt the US could do what Japan is doing without some Cons utional amendment, thus the point is probably moot as far as "becoming Japan" when it comes to gun-control.

    But it does provide a kick in the teeth to the narrative that gun control only increases defenseless victims and thus, increased crime rates.
    Actually, all it says is, a police state will result in a lower incidence of crime by a pacified population. Their gangs are still murdering each other at a pretty good clip. They're just more discriminating than our gangs.

    Also, if you paid attention to the article, the definitions of homicide in the U.S. and Japan differ, resulting in a larger than realistic disparity.

    But, yeah, bottom line is, if you want the police in your business fairly frequently, that's the way to go.

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    ...the Police are minutes away.

    Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store

    If you have a family and don't have a CHL, you don't love them enough to believe it's your responsibility to protect them and yourself.

    Just sayin'
    it's ok yoni..no one is trying to take your chl away..

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    [QUOTE=Yonivore;6047201]No, even the conclusion. I read the article to say Japan's gun control laws have resulted in a lower, near non-existent, incidence of gun violence.

    Tell me, do you believe Americans would allow the types of gun control measures now in place in Japan?

    Do you not read the you post?
    lol thinking the American Rifleman would advocate stringent gun control

    Theoretically, America could adopt a gun ban like Japan's. But that ban would be completely alien to our society, which for over 300 years has had the world's freest, most uncontrolled gun culture. Japan's gun laws are part of an authoritarian philosophy of government that is fundamentally at odds with America's traditions of liberty. Such laws have no place in our
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    As NoNo said, the chances of these restrictions "making it" here in the US are slim to none.

    Actually, Japan has a high incidence of sexual assault on women and extremely liberal laws on access to and the display of pornography. There are sexually explicit displays everywhere and Japan is grappling (pun intended) with groping on their public transportation and in public areas.

    So, I'm not sure to what you're referring or to what you believe that excerpt is referring.
    It's a police state full of rape!!!

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    If only those poor Japanese women could shoot those gropers on the subway ...

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    Also, if you paid attention to the article, the definitions of homicide in the U.S. and Japan differ, resulting in a larger than realistic disparity.
    cherry picking homicides.

    An armed robbery where nobody is killed is still a gun-related crime.

    But even focusing on deaths, the US is way up there when it comes to firearm-related death rate to pin it on a technicality.

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    I'm still fascinated by the idea that having multiple shooters in a darkened and chaotic movie theater would be a preferable scenario that is certain to result in diminished casualties.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I'm still fascinated by the idea that having multiple shooters in a darkened and chaotic movie theater would be a preferable scenario that is certain to result in diminished casualties.
    why do you hate guns?

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    Who has called for an end to concealed carry?

    Strawman thread.

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    it's ok yoni..no one is trying to take your chl away..
    They can have my gun when they pry... ah, you know the rest.

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    Do you not read the you post?
    lol thinking the American Rifleman would advocate stringent gun control
    Perhaps you misunderstood. I never said the article was advocating Japan's gun control but, they did say the measures worked -- at a price to liberty.

    No, I read the article and I know they said -- and I agree -- America wouldn't stand for such restrictive gun policies.

    As NoNo said, the chances of these restrictions "making it" here in the US are slim to none.
    Gratefully, I agree.

    It's a police state full of rape!!!
    It's a society full of misogynists that treat women deplorably.

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