When seconds count...

[Yonivore]

Yeah...this guy did. But I have no doubt that most wouldn't begin to know how.

But, we're talking about this guy having access to 30 round clips. Why do you keep moving the goal posts and arguing over the most pedantic aspects of this issue.

Bottom line.

Evil exists. There are people that are going to try and massacre a bunch of other people every so often. And, if there's no one there to try and stop them, they will succeed. The more people equipped and trained to stop such tragedies, the more likely it is they will be prevented.

again...not incredibly complicated but enough so that some would not try it.

How do you know? Why don't you just say, I don't think I could do it so, therefore, it would be difficult for anyone else.

As I said, I don't support any more gun control laws. Reason being that I don't think it would end at magazines. But on its own, I don't see much harm in restricting magazine capacity.

And I don't see any benefit to doing so. We simply disagree and that's okay.

[Yonivore]

Or Zimmerman wouldn't have had the balls to get out his car to begin with.

Well, he did get out of the car...under perfectly legal pretenses.

Incidentally, and being a CHL I can at least agree with this point, I believe I recall Zimmerman saying he didn't even think about his weapon until, during the struggle, his jacket bunched up and exposed it and he became fearful Martin was trying to gain control of it.

If you carry a weapon every day, it's not the first thing on your mind -- even in situations such as Zimmerman encountered. I've never pulled my weapon out of its holster in anticipation of using it.

This really belongs in the other thread, though.

[ChumpDumper]

God damn, you and Zimmerman are idiots.

[Blake]

God damn, you and Zimmerman are idiots.

[Yonivore]

Zimmerman and I are alive.

[ChumpDumper]

You needlessly killed a kid too?

Strange boast tbh.

[Blake]

You needlessly killed a kid too?

Strange boast tbh.

Yoni is posting from jail?

[Yonivore]

Yoni is posting from jail?

Self-defense isn't a crime.

[ChumpDumper]

yoni has killed literally dozens of potential mass murderers.

Respect.

[Latarian Milton]

Dude, you don't get it. EVERYONE HERE would have loved if someone would have recognized the situation and taken him out even before the event started whether by gun, knife, hammer, shiv, or club. Everyone. The argument is that a person with a gun, or two, or 75 had a much higher probability of making things worse in a chaotic crowded theater filled with two canisters of tear gas and no lights.

the fact is you need them guns to protect yourself, or at least use them to fear off any potential burglars. however if you don't have a gun, you easily become a target to criminals. it'd be an ideal world w/o conflicts and crimes, but thinking that banning guns would make the country safer to live in is just as stupid as wishing the terrorists to stop attacking us in exchange for us not "invading" their lands

killing ain't the guilt of guns, but the persons who use them guns for evil purposes. if you feel so uncomfortable living with 3.1m firearms in this country, you're welcome to go back where you came from anyday

[Blake]

Self-defense isn't a crime.

Who said it was?

[Yonivore]

Yoni is posting from jail?

You implied.

[Blake]

You implied.

I asked.

[Yonivore]

I asked.

And, in doing so, implied.

[ploto]

This thread typifies for me the main concern that I have with those who are so enthusiastic about gun ownership They have a hero complex that somehow they are the one who could save tons of people when in truth they are more likely to shoot a family member accidentally in their own home than to save a theatre full of frantic people.

[Blake]

And, in doing so, implied.

No I didn't. You assume too much.

[Winehole23]

And, in doing so, implied.

I thought Blake was improvising in the vein of ChumpDumper's lighthearted jest about you being a mass murderer of mass murderers, but I could be wrong. Maybe it was a straight question.

[Drachen]

I thought Blake was improvising in the vein of ChumpDumper's lighthearted jest about you being a mass murderer of mass murderers, but I could be wrong. Maybe it was a straight question.

Yoni is Dexter??? wow! I never knew.

[Winehole23]

lol

[cantthinkofanything]

But, we're talking about this guy having access to 30 round clips. Why do you keep moving the goal posts and arguing over the most pedantic aspects of this issue.

Bottom line.

Evil exists. There are people that are going to try and massacre a bunch of other people every so often. And, if there's no one there to try and stop them, they will succeed. The more people equipped and trained to stop such tragedies, the more likely it is they will be prevented.


How do you know? Why don't you just say, I don't think I could do it so, therefore, it would be difficult for anyone else.


And I don't see any benefit to doing so. We simply disagree and that's okay.

Sometimes...when I read your posts...I wonder if I'm on the wrong side of things because you're so stupid.

[Yonivore]

Sometimes...when I read your posts...I wonder if I'm on the wrong side of things because you're so stupid.

Somtimes...when I read your posts...I respond because I think there are points worth discussing. But, I never even remember who you are or what you say from day to day and I certainly don't make assumption about your intelligence based on what you put in here.

That would be stupid.

I really don't understand the frequency with which people devolve to name-calling in an anonymous forum where very few of us even know the others. Seriously, what compelled you to post that? I'm curious. Was the quote you selected some response to something you posted that you found yourself unable to respond so, you decided to name-call? Or, did you just read the words in that quote and decide I was stupid? And, if that's the case -- which words convinced you of my stupidity?

Well, thank God my self-esteem and success in life aren't dependent on your assessment of me as an anonymous poster in an internet forum. One shudders at the thought.

[clambake]

yoni is packin cuz he loves his family sooooooo much.

police: why did you kill your wife?

yoni: cuz i loved her toooooo much.

[cantthinkofanything]

Somtimes...when I read your posts...I respond because I think there are points worth discussing. But, I never even remember who you are or what you say from day to day and I certainly don't make assumption about your intelligence based on what you put in here.

That would be stupid.

I really don't understand the frequency with which people devolve to name-calling in an anonymous forum where very few of us even know the others. Seriously, what compelled you to post that? I'm curious. Was the quote you selected some response to something you posted that you found yourself unable to respond so, you decided to name-call? Or, did you just read the words in that quote and decide I was stupid? And, if that's the case -- which words convinced you of my stupidity?

Well, thank God my self-esteem and success in life aren't dependent on your assessment of me as an anonymous poster in an internet forum. One shudders at the thought.

Well...for the most part, I find myself siding with you more than not. But then when you argue the point, I can't find anything that confirms why I agree with you in the first place.

I guess if I had to come up with an analogy....

Close my eyes...
I'm in a large room with a bunch of people and we're all voting on very important stuff. We all cast our votes and I vote, "yes". Someone says, "everyone that voted, "yes", please stand". I stand and open my eyes. Everyone standing is re ed. I mentally question my vote.

[Yonivore]

Well...for the most part, I find myself siding with you more than not. But then when you argue the point, I can't find anything that confirms why I agree with you in the first place.

I guess if I had to come up with an analogy....

Close my eyes...
I'm in a large room with a bunch of people and we're all voting on very important stuff. We all cast our votes and I vote, "yes". Someone says, "everyone that voted, "yes", please stand". I stand and open my eyes. Everyone standing is re ed. I mentally question my vote.

You seem to be questioning your own intelligence, not mine. I'll leave you to it then.

[Drachen]

You seem to be questioning your own intelligence, not mine. I'll leave you to it then.

That is the point. I believe. He questions his intelligence. This is for a reason. The reason is he opened his eyes. His open eyes confirmed your mental deficiencies.
- in the hypothetical

To cantthink: these people exist on all sides.