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Depends on what your definition of "is" is.
People can call it whatever they want... however, the government does not have the jurisdiction to play Marriage Police.... marriage isn't even defined in the Cons ution....
Depends on what your definition of "is" is.
Church and state not completely separate on this issue -- probably the crux of the problem.
"Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don't have to compromise convictions to be compassionate." -Rick Warren.
I couldn't agree more!
There may be - if they've repented of their sins and accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. And no, God doesn't hate the non believer. John 3:16 says: For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. The bible also says that God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.No doubt there will be gays living next door to you in your heavenly gated community.
fwiw, God hates the non believer.
Perhaps the church can start calling their version of "marriage" a "religious union"... problem solved!
Pretty sure gays aren't against business owners having first amendment rights but nice strawman.
LOL of course its bigoted and none of the things you said just changed that. Bigotry isn't somehow void because the majority feel this way. Once upon a time treating blacks as less than human was a mainstream position. That didn't mean it wasn't bigoted.
Except they are. Marriage by the government has absolutely nothing to do with marriage in a church.
This comparison still makes me cringe. I don't think we'll have a civil war over this issue, but maybe that's just me.
Then why does this thread exist?
So its not a civil rights issue or bigoted unless we're going to have a civil war? Thats a pretty dumb standard.
I'd cringe, too, if the comparison involved gay slaves.
I disagree with the term "lifestyle". It implies choice.
We didn't have a civil war over segregation or women's right to vote either...
Are saying that because this thread exists that sexuals must have an agenda that is to deny business owners the right of free speech? REALLY? Who's been actively saying that business owners can't have the right to sy what they want? Facing the consequences of your speech is not the sme as being denied free speech.
Let me know when when sexuals are actively donating millions of dollars in an effort to repeal the first amendment.
Maybe I'm not articulating it well, but I just can't make those two things equivalent.
Some liberal mayors
Not true. You're equating facing consequences to free speech to being the same as being denied the right to the speech in the first place. No mayor has said that that Chic Fil A should be denied the right to say what they want.
Wow. Did you really just post this?
If the free market decides the "consequences", I'm fine with it.
Wow. Just, wow.
@ chart with 30 days of "historical" data
I'm not implying it isn't hurting their brand right now. I'm saying it's a fabricated story made into something by activists (now on both sides of the issue), that doesn't have stamina. The outrage will subside and people will go back to eating their chicken sammich and waffle fries.
Just heard that Chick-fil-A set a world record today, and they still have time to go on the west coast. The website www.theblaze.com has lots of pictures and comments from people all over the United States. I read on facebook that in one location, the crowd started singing "God Bless America." Other people said it felt more like a family reunion because everyone was there for the same reason. Hats off to Chick-fil-A for handling the immense crowds with smiles and great customer service.
When you diminish this as a non-real civil rights issue, you lose all credibility. For a gay/lesbian person that wants to have access to their lifetime partner's medical records, it's a very real issue...
I guess when denying women's right to vote was "mainstream", it wasn't a "real" civil rights issue for men either...
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