Is Christopher Nolan the worst writer on the planet?

[redzero]

And the funny thing is, most of these aren't even plot holes. this guy missed the actual plot holes in the movie to about things that aren't plot holes.

I'm pretty sure that he will come back with more "plot holes" that he found somewhere else, so he can to feel superior to everybody else on here.

[da_suns_fan]

You make great points actually.

Nobody's answered my question about why a little boy with an accent is singing the national anthem. He's obviously from another country.

[da_suns_fan]

And the funny thing is, most of these aren't even plot holes. this guy missed the actual plot holes in the movie to about things that aren't plot holes.

I'm pretty sure that he will come back with more "plot holes" that he found somewhere else, so he can to feel superior to everybody else on here.

You obviously dont know what a plot hole is.

A plot hole, or plothole, is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot, or cons utes a blatant omission of relevant information regarding the plot. These include such things as unlikely behaviour or actions of characters, illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline.

[redzero]

YOU obviously don't know what "plot hole" means.

You not liking Bane's voice is not a plot hole.

Batman not figuring out the villain's plot is not a plot hole. thinking that being able to fix autopilot should make one omniscient.

Bruce Wayne faked his death because he didn't want to be Bruce Wayne anymore. Not a plot hole.

Selina Kyle didn't associate herself with Bane. She was coerced into working with him and promised a device that would erase her criminal past. She had no part in any of the bombings or other .

Lucius Fox said that they would probably able to prove fraud. There was what? One day between Bruce losing all of his money and Gotham going into anarchy?

Bane told that speech about Harvey Dent in front of Blackgate. The only ones who seemed to care at the time were the prisoners who were put away by The Dent Act. The general public isn't show reacting to Gordon's letter.

Talia's relationship with Bruce was a ruse. Her entire Miranda Tate personality was a ruse. She didn't break character because she wanted everybody to trust her. She didn't report Blake because she wanted to get to the people Blake was working with, which worked.

Talia died because the truck she was driving dove 30 feet front first. Her end received the brunt of the force.

Ra's still wanted to use the prison. how is that a plot hole?


Some of your other points are valid. There are plot holes in this movie. There are plot holes in tons of movies. That doesn't make you smarter than everybody else for being able to point them out, and it doesn't make the movies bad for having plot holes.

[gaKNOW!blee]

You make great points actually.

Nobody's answered my question about why a little boy with an accent is singing the national anthem. He's obviously from another country.

If you're so obsessed with this why don't you look it up yourself?

He's from Pittsburgh.

[da_suns_fan]

YOU obviously don't know what "plot hole" means.

You not liking Bane's voice is not a plot hole.

This is actually true. That was just a nitpick. But the larger plot hole was that he needed a respirator to LIVE despite living okay all bandaged up in the prison.

Batman not figuring out the villain's plot is not a plot hole. thinking that being able to fix autopilot should make one omniscient.

Inconsistent character behavior IS a plot hole. He's either incredibly smart or not. Cant have both.

Bruce Wayne faked his death because he didn't want to be Bruce Wayne anymore. Not a plot hole.

Why? Whats wrong with being Bruce Wayne? What reason does he have to not be Bruce Wayne? Plot hole.

Selina Kyle didn't associate herself with Bane. She was coerced into working with him and promised a device that would erase her criminal past. She had no part in any of the bombings or other .

Yet she was all in with her "a storms coming mister wayne" speech and her friend said "this is what we wanted" when theyre stealing from all the rich people post bane takeover. She knew the location of bane's hideout and led batman into a trap. Seems she associated herself with them to me which is inconsistent with her "wanting a clean slate".

Plot hole.

Lucius Fox said that they would probably able to prove fraud. There was what? One day between Bruce losing all of his money and Gotham going into anarchy?

PROBALY able to prove fraud?

Maybe the most quotable line in the whole movie. As if the dead people and loads of evidence that a crime went down at the stock exchange wasnt enough proof?!!!

PLOT-HOLE!!!!!! I cant believe you defended that one! You really are a moron.

Bane told that speech about Harvey Dent in front of Blackgate. The only ones who seemed to care at the time were the prisoners who were put away by The Dent Act. The general public isn't show reacting to Gordon's letter.

You might be right on this one. Maybe he was just reading to prisoners to rile violence. I'll consider removing that one.

Talia's relationship with Bruce was a ruse. Her entire Miranda Tate personality was a ruse. She didn't break character because she wanted everybody to trust her. She didn't report Blake because she wanted to get to the people Blake was working with, which worked.

Nonsense. She had no reason to stay "in character" post takeover. All letting Blake live did was to allow his plan to resurrect the cops succeed. I assume you mean she told bane about the navy seals...okay. But why didnt they just blow the bomb then since the federal government broke the rules? Why did they kill the seals and not everyone else associated with "Blake"?

Plot hole. Easily.

Talia died because the truck she was driving dove 30 feet front first. Her end received the brunt of the force.

A dude in the back with no seat belt with a rolling nuclear bomb survives just fine but the chick up front dies from the exact same fall? What mechanical physics class did you take? This one takes quite the stretch of the imagination and is a plot hole.

Ra's still wanted to use the prison. how is that a plot hole?

What for? How does he afford to run a prison. Is it sentimental to him? Pretty stupid if you ask me.

Some of your other points are valid. There are plot holes in this movie. There are plot holes in tons of movies. That doesn't make you smarter than everybody else for being able to point them out, and it doesn't make the movies bad for having plot holes.

You questioned 7 of 14. I assume you agree with the other seven.

I would consider pulling out the "Bane reads the confession" but its just so stupid. The prisoners werent made enough for being locked up "illegally"?

[The Batman]

If da sun fan wrote a movie about me, we would all be riding unicorns having pillowfights

[redzero]

Just because somebody knows how to fix autopilot doesn't mean they should also be able to figures out giant conspiracies. That is stupid.

Ra's used the prison to put his enemies in. Bane did, too. They had lots of resources by the time they took over.

Talia also led Bane's men to Gordon. Being a mole had its benefits. They didn't blow the bomb because they took control of the situation.

If a car drives into a wall, would the front end or back be more damaged?

Bruce Wayne was suicidal and self-loathing for years. Did you not pay attention to the first hour of the movie? He stopped being Bruce Wayne and Batman so he can start over. That's not a plot hole.

Gordon and his men didn't even get far enough onto the ice. They walked a few feet and then Batman came. After that, they could easily just walk back.

[da_suns_fan]

Also, if "Mal" was staying in character to be a "spy", why did she stick around with Bane towards the end pretending to be a "Hostage"?

Why not "escape" and see what blake is up to?

Plot hole.

[da_suns_fan]

Just because somebody knows how to fix autopilot doesn't mean they should also be able to figures out giant conspiracies. That is stupid.

Ra's used the prison to put his enemies in. Bane did, too. They had lots of resources by the time they took over.

Talia also led Bane's men to Gordon. Being a mole had its benefits. They didn't blow the bomb because they took control of the situation.

If a car drives into a wall, would the front end or back be more damaged?

Bruce Wayne was suicidal and self-loathing for years. Did you not pay attention to the first hour of the movie? He stopped being Bruce Wayne and Batman so he can start over. That's not a plot hole.

Gordon and his men didn't even get far enough onto the ice. They walked a few feet and then Batman came. After that, they could easily just walk back.

He could stop being batman by "killing him off". What was his reason for killing off Wayne? Starting over? He was broke. Was does changing his iden y do?

[redzero]

Cut his ties to Gotham.

And I like how you are both complaining about Talia being a mole and not continuing to be a mole.

[da_suns_fan]

If a car drives into a wall, would the front end or back be more damaged?

If a dude is in the back without a seat belt, he's going to hit the front of the cargo bay with the same amount of force as if he had jumped off the bridge.

Its a plot hole, bro.

[da_suns_fan]

Cut his ties to Gotham.

And I like how you are both complaining about Talia being a mole and not continuing to be a mole.

EXACTLY!

Inconsistent behavior = plot hole.

You understand now?

[da_suns_fan]

Gordon and his men didn't even get far enough onto the ice. They walked a few feet and then Batman came. After that, they could easily just walk back.

Theyre so confident they havent gone far enough on the ice theyre willing to throw a flare onto gasoline on the ice?!!!

Plot hole.

[redzero]

Gordon could have been holding on to something.

You are still being stupid with this Talia thing. Why would she still follow Blake around if she already got the people he was working with captured? Blake was alone at that point until Batman came around.

Pick a lane. Was Talia being a mole useful or not?

[BUMP]

The real issue here is that it probably took 15 minutes to write this. That's 15 minutes where you could've been doing anything else.

I'm not saying you should commit suicide but if the possibility of discontinuing your existence were to become available it might not be a terrible idea to capitalize on it

[JMarkJohns]

I like Nolan a lot, but theres plenty wrong with Rises, including what DSF posted above, and continued here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=64971

That said, I enjoyed the movie in spite of the flaws, but some of the weaker elements definitely undercut the overall. Bane, despite his look, wasn't maximized or well written at all, especially his ultimate objective as a mere henchman or his demise.

[da_suns_fan]

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You are still being stupid with this Talia thing. Why would she still follow Blake around if she already got the people he was working with captured? Blake was alone at that point until Batman came around.

Then why not kill Blake? Why not bust his hideout and kill him? Was he not a threat?

[redzero]

I don't like throwing around the word "obsessed," but this guy's Nolan hatred is bordering on obsession.

[lakerhaterade]

The real issue here is that it probably took 15 minutes to write this. That's 15 minutes where you could've been doing anything else.

I'm not saying you should commit suicide but if the possibility of discontinuing your existence were to become available it might not be a terrible idea to capitalize on it

[pawe]

7. Two armies armed with AK-47s and pistols run at each other "Braveheart" style and fight hand-to-hand because, evidently, they forgot they had guns.

You keep on complaining about people using guns and now that they don't, you start complaining about them not using it???

[leemajors]

Inconsistent character behavior IS a plot hole.

No, that's just bad editing on the script. That's why someone else looks it over.

[Lincoln]

You obviously take movies way too in seriously. It's a comic book movie for s sake, shut the up and just watch the movie.

[da_suns_fan]

Cut his ties to Gotham.

Why does Wayne want to cut his ties to gotham? When did he say that?

Answer: He doesnt. Nolan just wanted a "spinning top" revelation at the end of the film for people to debate about (whether he was really alive or Alfred imagined it etc).

Gimmicky, ting writing.

[redzero]

No, Nolan did not. He gave several hints that Bruce Wayne was alive. The only people who think the ending is ambiguous are morons.