Romney a Deadbeat?

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't say they could leak them to the press.

I said that the Treasury Department HAS Romney's tax returns.

If there was anything illegal going on you can be damn sure Romney would be in the middle of a nasty audit right now.

There is nothing illegal about paying as little tax as you can under current tax law.

In fact, I consider it almost a moral obligation not to overpay my taxes while staying within the law.

There is plenty that is politically embarrassing about paying a lower tax rate that most middle class Americans while saying they should be cut further.

In fact, I consider it the kind of thing Romney would not be able to overcome in, say, a debate.

[Yonivore]

There is plenty that is politically embarrassing about paying a lower tax rate that most middle class Americans while saying they should be cut further.

In fact, I consider it the kind of thing Romney would not be able to overcome in, say, a debate.

It is the height of stupidity to voluntarily give money to a wasteful, corrupt, and fraud-ridden federal government. Period.

If you don't avail yourself of every tax benefit, allowed by law, you are a ing idiot.

Name one Democrat that is voluntarily not taking tax breaks. , Barack Obama complains that he pays less tax than he should when there is absolutely nothing stopping him from contributing 100% of his income to the federal treasury.

Not only that, Mitt Romney has never been in Congress or the Executive Branch and, as such, has had absolutely zero say over the current tax law.

[CosmicCowboy]

There is a lot to be said for not raising taxes on anyone during a recession as well.

[Yonivore]

There is a lot to be said for not raising taxes on anyone during a recession as well.

And, Barack Obama has said that, more than once, during his presidency.

[CosmicCowboy]

Obama is bending the truth beyond credibility claiming Republicans "want to cut taxes on the rich" instead of just being honest and saying the Republican want tax rates to remain the same while HE wants to RAISE taxes on the "rich".

[ChumpDumper]

It is the height of stupidity to voluntarily give money to a wasteful, corrupt, and fraud-ridden federal government. Period.

If you don't avail yourself of every tax benefit, allowed by law, you are a ing idiot.

Name one Democrat that is voluntarily not taking tax breaks. , Barack Obama complains that he pays less tax than he should when there is absolutely nothing stopping him from contributing 100% of his income to the federal treasury.

Not only that, Mitt Romney has never been in Congress or the Executive Branch and, as such, has had absolutely zero say over the current tax law.

If you applaud Romney for paying a lower tax rate than you do, you're a ing idiot.

But a useful idiot for Romney.

There is a lot to be said for not raising taxes on anyone during a recession as well.

Define recession.

[TeyshaBlue]

Define recession.

I think the classical definition of recession is now a bit more plastic than it once was.

Perception/Reality and all that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1414984.html

[ChumpDumper]

Obama is bending the truth beyond credibility claiming Republicans "want to cut taxes on the rich" instead of just being honest and saying the Republican want tax rates to remain the same while HE wants to RAISE taxes on the "rich".

All the Democrats have to do (and are doing) is point to the Tax Policy Center's report that says Romney's plan would cut taxes for the rich while raising taxes on the middle class through the closing of loopholes and ending of exemptions.

Unless Romney gets ultra specific about what he's going to do, which he won't and no one will notice anyway, this will continue.

[Yonivore]

Democrats! These are your leaders...

Nancy Pelosi: 'It Is A Fact' That Somebody Told Harry Reid About Romney Not Paying Taxes

"Harry Reid made a statement that is true. Somebody told him. It is a fact," Pelosi told The Huffington Post in a Sunday interview. "Whether he did or not can easily be disposed of: Mitt Romney can release his tax returns and show whether he paid taxes."

Has it occurred to anyone that if Mitt Romney hadn't paid his taxes for 10 years, he'd already have been facing criminal charges? Just ask Wesley Snipes.

Going for the Gold medal of lies; 10 years, no taxes!

God, how do Democrats keep sending people like this, Sheila Jackson-Lee , and Hank Johnson back to Congress? Isn't it embarrassing?

[ChumpDumper]

Republicans are also embarrassed -- for Romney.

"Politically, I think that would help him," Ron Paul said in a interview with Politico. "In the scheme of things politically, you know, it looks like releasing tax returns is what the people want."

"I have no idea on why he has restricted the number to this point," Richard Lugar said.

"I don't know why... he didn't get all of this out and tidy up some of his offshore accounts and all the rest," George Will said on ABC's "This Week." "He's done nothing illegal, nothing unseemly, nothing improper, but lots that's impolitic."

"He should release the tax returns tomorrow. It's crazy," Bill Kristol said on "Fox News Sunday." "You gotta release six, eight, 10 years of back tax returns. Take the hit for a day or two."

"I just believe in total transparency," Robert Bentley told ABC News. "In fact, I was asked today that question -- do you think that Governor Romney should release his tax returns? And I said I do. I said, I release my tax returns. I may be the only public official in Alabama that does, but I release mine every year and I just believe that people should release their tax returns. And if you get them out and just get past that, it just makes it so much easier."

When asked on "The Situation Room" if Romney should release more returns, Haley Barbour said, "I would. But should it be an issue in the campaign? I don't think it amounts to diddly."

"If there's nothing there, there's no 'there' there, don't create a there,'" Michael Steele said on MSNBC.

"Tax returns the next problem. Releasing returns under pressure: more weakness, more pain," David Frum tweeted.


Thanks for the link, yoni. [emoticon]

[Yonivore]

Republicans are also embarrassed -- for Romney.

"Politically, I think that would help him," Ron Paul said in a interview with Politico. "In the scheme of things politically, you know, it looks like releasing tax returns is what the people want."

"I have no idea on why he has restricted the number to this point," Richard Lugar said.

"I don't know why... he didn't get all of this out and tidy up some of his offshore accounts and all the rest," George Will said on ABC's "This Week." "He's done nothing illegal, nothing unseemly, nothing improper, but lots that's impolitic."

"He should release the tax returns tomorrow. It's crazy," Bill Kristol said on "Fox News Sunday." "You gotta release six, eight, 10 years of back tax returns. Take the hit for a day or two."

"I just believe in total transparency," Robert Bentley told ABC News. "In fact, I was asked today that question -- do you think that Governor Romney should release his tax returns? And I said I do. I said, I release my tax returns. I may be the only public official in Alabama that does, but I release mine every year and I just believe that people should release their tax returns. And if you get them out and just get past that, it just makes it so much easier."

When asked on "The Situation Room" if Romney should release more returns, Haley Barbour said, "I would. But should it be an issue in the campaign? I don't think it amounts to diddly."

"If there's nothing there, there's no 'there' there, don't create a there,'" Michael Steele said on MSNBC.

"Tax returns the next problem. Releasing returns under pressure: more weakness, more pain," David Frum tweeted.


Thanks for the link, yoni. [emoticon]

With the helpful belligerence of Harry Reid, I think this all goes away. And, I (as does, apparently, the Romney campaign) simply disagree with everyone quoted above.

I don't know why the Romney Campaign isn't releasing his tax returns but, I have an idea.

Mitt Romney was completely transparent about his departure from Bain Capital in 1999. Everyone with any knowledge of his tenure at, and departure from, Bain Capital completely agree with his characterization that he walked away, to go work on the Salt Lake City Olympics, and didn't look back. This included current partners of Bain Capital that, coincidentally, happen to be Democrats and, not only that, supporters of Barack Obama.

Did that stop Democrats from looking at some SEC do ent, like a Rorshach Inkblot Test, and seeing a felony? No, it didn't.

I have no doubt ten years worth of Romney's tax returns contain a lot of detail about his finances that those same Democrats would have just as much difficulty understanding and over which those same Democrats would be able to divine some horrible crime that doesn't exist.

It's that simple.

Now that Harry Reid has screwed the narrative pooch and gone a bit overboard -- driving a wedge between his lie and the White House, quite possibly, we can get past the latest idiotic attack on Mitt Romney's character.

[clambake]

define mitt romney's character.

[ChumpDumper]

Words.

What did he lie about? Reid said some dude told him something.

And your average voter doesn't know who Reid is, much less care what he says about Romney.

Romney can get past this by releasing his returns. Not passively hoping that someone says something to distract from it. What a pussy approach you are wishing for.

[Yonivore]

What did he lie about? Reid said some dude told him something.

Some dude told me you dogs. Am I lying?

And your average voter doesn't know who Reid is, much less care what he says about Romney.

The average voters you're talking about don't know who Romney is either -- or Pelosi. They only Obama because he's a rock star. Those average voters aren't going to make much of a difference this election.

The Democrats are panicking.

Romney can get past this by releasing his returns. Not passively hoping that someone says something to distract from it. What a pussy approach you are wishing for.

I think he'll get past this the same way he got past the claim he was a felon because his name appeared on an SEC do ent after 1999. He'll ignore it and Democrats will run out of wind.

[ChumpDumper]

Some dude told me you dogs. Am I lying?

Are you lying about some dude's telling you that?

I don't know. Dudes can say whatever they want.

Asking me to prove I don't dogs is asking me to prove a negative and fallacious. Asking Romney to prove he paid taxes is asking him to prove a positive and easily done with a scanner (layers!) and an email account.

The average voters you're talking about don't know who Romney is either -- or Pelosi. They only Obama because he's a rock star. Those average voters aren't going to make much of a difference this election.

The Democrats are panicking.

You're panicking. The more you panic the more you post.

I think he'll get past this the same way he got past the claim he was a felon because his name appeared on an SEC do ent after 1999. He'll ignore it and Democrats will run out of wind.

Nah, all the Democrats have to keep saying it "What is he hiding?" Folks can take it from there.

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"He'll ignore it"

that doesn't solve HIS problem

"what is he hiding?" is so simple that even you dumb tea baggers can see Gecko has created a huge problem for himself.

[Yonivore]

Are you lying about some dude's telling you that?

I don't know. Dudes can say whatever they want.

Exactly so, why respond? I've already given the reason why Romney shouldn't.

Asking me to prove I don't dogs is asking me to prove a negative and fallacious. Asking Romney to prove he paid taxes is asking him to prove a positive and easily done with a scanner (layers!) and an email account.

The fact there are no federal criminal cases against Mitt Romney for tax evasion is proof he didn't go 10 years without paying taxes.

You do know bestiality is a crime, right?

You're panicking. The more you panic the more you post.

Yeah, whatever gets you through this.

Obama's popularity is falling.

Democrats have dropped a day from their Convention because of funding woes.

Now, they're concerned Obama won't be able to fill the seats for his acceptance speech.

Quite a difference from 2008.

By the way, when's he going to start talking about his agenda to recover our economy? Anyone remember Axelrod calling this the Recovery Summer?

Nah, all the Democrats have to keep saying it "What is he hiding?" Folks can take it from there.

Because that's worked for them so well...

Romney put a dog on the roof of his car back in the 50's or whatever...

Ann Romney has never worked a day in his life...

Mitt Romney is a felon because he signed some SEC do ent after 1999...

And now, Mitt Romney hasn't paid his taxes for 10 years...

Well, we know he's paid them for the past two years and that there is absolutely no reason to believe he hasn't paid them in the past. I suggest Harry Reid turn over his evidence to the IRS and let them investigate.

And, the 8.254% unemployed who are paying twice as much for gasoline than they did when Obama took office aren't going to care.

They want to hear what Obama is going to do about the mess they're in...not whether or not Romney should release his tax returns.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

(layers!)

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I actually do agree with Yoni that as long as it was legal, Romney paying a low tax rate by utilizing whatever breaks within our tax code isn't something that should be used against him. People are going to pay the least amount in taxes as they can, it'd be incredibly stupid to pay more in taxes than you're legally obligated to.

What should be used against Romney is his belief that a tax plan which continues to allow people with his wealth to pay such a small amount is good for America and will create jobs. There's no proof whatsoever that lower taxes for the wealthiest lead to job creation. It's the same trickle down myth that landed the country in a recession to begin with.

[ChumpDumper]

Exactly so, why respond? I've already given the reason why Romney shouldn't.

Having a reason doesn't make it a good reason.

The fact there are no federal criminal cases against Mitt Romney for tax evasion is proof he didn't go 10 years without paying taxes.

As I said, he can prove his payments with a wave of a scanner. That would be a home run.

You do know bestiality is a crime, right?

Why are you so interested in it?

Yeah, whatever gets you through this.

Back atcha.

Obama's popularity is falling.

You never say anything when it rises.

Democrats have dropped a day from their Convention because of funding woes.

Now, they're concerned Obama won't be able to fill the seats for his acceptance speech.

Quite a difference from 2008.

Man, I'm glad I don't read all the blogs you do.

Or think about ing dogs as much as you do, for that matter.

By the way, when's he going to start talking about his agenda to recover our economy? Anyone remember Axelrod calling this the Recovery Summer?

Your blogs do.

(Whiny rant.)

Sorry, you're a hypocrite for posting all your innuendo about Obama's do ents or lack thereof for five years. You don't get off the hook for this.

Or for your dog ing fascination.

[ChumpDumper]

I actually do agree with Yoni that as long as it was legal, Romney paying a low tax rate by utilizing whatever breaks within our tax code isn't something that should be used against him. People are going to pay the least amount in taxes as they can, it'd be incredibly stupid to pay more in taxes than you're legally obligated to.

What should be used against Romney is his belief that a tax plan which continues to allow people with his wealth to pay such a small amount is good for America and will create jobs. There's no proof whatsoever that lower taxes for the wealthiest lead to job creation. It's the same trickle down myth that landed the country in a recession to begin with.

No one is saying he shouldn't have taken the breaks he was given. That's a straw man yoni and CC are trying to battle.

But yeah, he'd probably be embarrassed by the actual rate he pays coupled with the demand that people like him should pay even less. I can see why he and yoni are so terrified.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No one is saying he shouldn't have taken the breaks he was given. That's a straw man yoni and CC are trying to battle.

figures

If I'm not feeling lazy later I'll dig up the thread re: Warren Buffet's article about taxes being too low. I seem to recall plenty of Republicans on this site saying, "If Buffett thinks people with his wealth should pay more in taxes then he should voluntarily pay more!"

[CosmicCowboy]

It's not a straw man. It's simply fact. He filled out his tax return, followed the law, and sent the IRS a check.

Where is the boogey man?

General Electric didn't pay any taxes this year.

Where is your outrage there? Oh yeah. Imelt is in Obama's back pocket. Silly me. Thats OK with Chump.

[ChumpDumper]

It's not a straw man. It's simply fact. He filled out his tax return, followed the law, and sent the IRS a check.

You've been too busy building and fighting the straw man and missed a possibility there.

General Electric didn't pay any taxes this year.

You don't miss it for others.

Where is your outrage there? Oh yeah. Imelt is in Obama's back pocket. Silly me. Thats OK with Chump.

Hey, another straw man.

[boutons_deux]

With the helpful belligerence of Harry Reid

you're a classic bully, just HATE it when your opponents push back in your fade.