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    I just don't think people should dismiss it because of that. It depends on what his methodology of selecting states is. He may think that even though its close there is little room for movement.

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    Dude, that map has Florida and Ohio as >97.5% chance of voting Obama. That sounds ridiculous to me.
    ehhh no. The 97.5% chance is that Dems pick up the electoral college votes for that state. It could just be a 4% voting margin for Barry, which in general is a fairly big margin given the specific state. Obviously, that can easily change if Mitt picks Rubio as running mate.

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    Obama re-election is a lock. A lot of what used to be the Republican base spend their time building stockpiles of weapons and non-perishable food, and building contingency plans for a shadow government.

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    at GOP nominating Willard Willkie

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    Dude, that map has Florida and Ohio as >97.5% chance of voting Obama. That sounds ridiculous to me.
    Absolutely ridiculous. They have been close states in the past. No way they are that certain of one a swing states outcome unless it's rigged. Only the electronic machines that can be programmed went democrat here:


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    lol bush vs kerry

    lol massive voter fraud

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    lol bush vs kerry
    At a time when democrats are accusing that the electronic machines being rigged for Bush.

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    At a time when democrats are accusing that the electronic machines being rigged for Bush.
    that's what recounts are for... bush won fair and square...

    Are dems trying to pass laws outlawing electronic machines?

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    Are dems trying to pass laws outlawing electronic machines?
    Not that I've seen. I think they just went for rigging them instead.

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    Not that I've seen.
    So Dems are not complaining of massive voter fraud... thanks!

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    So Dems are not complaining of massive voter fraud... thanks!
    Are not, and were not are two different things. Past and present you know.

    What changed? they used to complain about how easily the machines were rigged. Now they don't. Could it be because now they use rigging to their advantage?

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    What changed? they used to complain about how easily the machines were rigged. Now they don't. Could it be because now they use rigging to their advantage?
    Didn't all those machines had a paper trail? Looks to me they were satisfied with the recount.

    But do tell us how big bad blue is rigging elections now

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    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...de-cellphones/

    Not surprising as this was discussed some in 2008, polls that include cell phones are stronger for Obama as polls that only include landlines undersample younger demographics and are more biased toward older populations which favors Romney.

    If you want a more accurate poll you'll include cell phones. I wasn't polled at all in 2008 but this time around I've gotten a few calls from pollsters. I only have a cell phone.

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    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...de-cellphones/

    Not surprising as this was discussed some in 2008, polls that include cell phones are stronger for Obama as polls that only include landlines undersample younger demographics and are more biased toward older populations which favors Romney.

    If you want a more accurate poll you'll include cell phones. I wasn't polled at all in 2008 but this time around I've gotten a few calls from pollsters. I only have a cell phone.
    I tell them all I don't want to participate. The questions piss me off. you can tell what their desired result is from how they phrase the questions.

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    I tell them all I don't want to participate. The questions piss me off. you can tell what their desired result is from how they phrase the questions.
    "Do you think that Obama's plans to create death panels for your sick grandma are a) good or b) bad, because your grandma still loves you?"

    "Given that Romney has fired many people while running a company, do you think he cares about poor people? Yes or no."

    "Do you support Obama's ability to assassinate American citizens without a trial, or are you a dirty ing hippie?"

    "How long do you think it's been since Romney stopped beating his wife?"

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    I am pretty sure none of the major firms frame questions like that.

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    Poll BEFORE Gecko's latest gaffe.

    Obama Has 8-Point Lead In Pew Poll; Big Advantage With Women, Blacks, Young

    President Obama leads Republican Mitt Romney by 8 points nationally — 51 to 43 percent among likely voters — as the race heads into the final stretch, according to a new Pew Research Center poll released Wednesday.

    Obama's advantage, particularly among women, blacks and voters younger than 30, puts him "in a strong position compared with past victorious presidential candidates," Pew reported.

    Obama's lead at this point in the race, Pew President Andrew Kohut told NPR's Robert Siegel, is "stronger than the last three winning presidential candidates." Only Bill Clinton, running in both 1992 and 1996, had bigger leads in mid-September.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...ks-young-voter

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    Didn't all those machines had a paper trail? Looks to me they were satisfied with the recount.

    But do tell us how big bad blue is rigging elections now
    You forget the arguments four years ago and the reasons I bring this up over and over.

    Democrats claimed these electronic machines were used to help republicans, and that they can be reprogrammed. The only places you see numbers bigger than the norm are for democrats. Not republicans. I will contend that the democrats claim was half right. They knew the programming could be altered, and did.

    Again, are the democrats going to win Ohio this time by cheating?

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    The latest breakdown by Nate Silver shows that 17 out of the 19 times someone was leading in the polls at this point in the contest they won. The exceptions being Gore and Dewey.

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    There is some extreme fantasizing going on with that map.
    !!!!

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    You forget the arguments four years ago and the reasons I bring this up over and over.

    Democrats claimed these electronic machines were used to help republicans, and that they can be reprogrammed. The only places you see numbers bigger than the norm are for democrats. Not republicans. I will contend that the democrats claim was half right. They knew the programming could be altered, and did.

    Again, are the democrats going to win Ohio this time by cheating?

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    Darrin I even bought the info to you on this site and you still couldn't get it right. Not surprising. LOL @ "any undergrad"
    Any undergrad can produce Silver's results if they have good data. The data was good. No big whoop.

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    we're studying Nate Silver's methods in a 400 level math class right now, and most people in this class are mind ed by a lot of it.

    @ "any undergrad"

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    we're studying Nate Silver's methods in a 400 level math class right now, and most people in this class are mind ed by a lot of it.

    @ "any undergrad"

    It's probably not even college level. I think in high school (or even middle school), they have problems like "There are 50 blue marbles and 47 red marbles in a bag. What are the odds of choosing a blue marble?".

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