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    if I want to buy a piece of land, why should I be forced into an agreement with an HOA to forfeit my property if I don't pay their membership dues?

    I shouldn't have to be a member if I don't want to be.

    because someone that owned the land decided that would be a condition in order to sell said land.

    besides, the same principle exists when it comes to property taxes.

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    Read your mail at least once a year and you won't have to worry about it.
    and also the fine print in the contract

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    Since the good counselor prefers to answer the question he wants to, rather than what was asked, perhaps the people reading can answer a simple yes or no question:

    Should the penalty for not paying $800 in dues be the loss of a $300,000 house that was fully owned, free and clear?
    Good question.

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    it's evil regardless of what family it might happen to, to be sure.

    I think doing it to a military family is extra evil.

    so then the evilness of a non military family in the same boat is what

    6 out of 10 on the evil scale as opposed to a 10 out of 10 for a military family or whatever?

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    Except that it leaves out some pretty important facts.

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    What if its $10,000 in back taxes.

    Is it ok to foreclose at that level? There has to be some level where it is ok, right?

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    so then the evilness of a non military family in the same boat is what

    6 out of 10 on the evil scale as opposed to a 10 out of 10 for a military family or whatever?
    Clearly, some negligent depressed should be above the law because her bully of a husband is killing islams on some god-forsaken desert halfway around the world.

    they fight for our freedoms

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    no offense lngrr

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    Clearly, some negligent depressed should be above the law because her bully of a husband is killing islams on some god-forsaken desert halfway around the world.

    they fight for our freedoms


    at least the poor wifey is falling in line with old school thinking of being dependent on her husband for everything in her life.

    :cool


    I smell a rat though unless every ing bill was unpaid.

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    Seriously, I'd love to live in this fantasy world where I somehow become a champion of civil rights by refusing to pay my bills because I feel

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    I'm going to stop paying my bills I think. That will show them!

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    because someone that owned the land decided that would be a condition in order to sell said land.
    An evil someone.

    besides, the same principle exists when it comes to property taxes.
    in some ways, that's evil too.

    Even then,
    the tax principle exists across the board equally for all property owners that go to direct goods and services.

    I live in a subdivision that has public streets, no gates, no parks and no pools. My forced HOA fees go to a management company whose main office is out of Arizona if I'm not mistaken.

    They take in at least $20k+ a year from my subdivision, probably more, and all I directly see from this is a maintained entrance to the front of the subdivision and a neighborhood picnic three times a year.

    The rest of the money obviously is pocketed by the association company.

    It's a scam in the name of property value and maintenance.

    Evil stuff.

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    An evil someone.



    in some ways, that's evil too.

    Even then,
    the tax principle exists across the board equally for all property owners that go to direct goods and services.

    I live in a subdivision that has public streets, no gates, no parks and no pools. My forced HOA fees go to a management company whose main office is out of Arizona if I'm not mistaken.

    They take in at least $20k+ a year from my subdivision, probably more, and all I directly see from this is a maintained entrance to the front of the subdivision and a neighborhood picnic three times a year.

    The rest of the money obviously is pocketed by the association company.

    It's a scam in the name of property value and maintenance.

    Evil stuff.
    well then you live in a ing ty HOA, should have probably done more research before buying your home.

    mine provides real services like security and what not (pools, basketball courts, tennis courts, et al). well worth the 230 bucks i pay a year.

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    An evil someone.


    but wasnt that within their rights to do as they please with their private property?

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    I get a gym, pool, 24 hour securituy, several open areas, happy hours, and some other that I don't even know about.

    Blke

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    Except that it leaves out some pretty important facts.
    na, the question is fine on it's own because that's exactly what happened.

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    but wasnt that within their rights to do as they please with their private property?
    how about if it's in the contract that you must refuse to allow blacks on the property?

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    na, the question is fine on it's own because that's exactly what happened.
    Her deliberate decision not to read any of the certified letters the HOA was sending her over several months is a pretty important fact to be aware of..........

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    well then you live in a ing ty HOA, should have probably done more research before buying your home.

    mine provides real services like security and what not (pools, basketball courts, tennis courts, et al). well worth the 230 bucks i pay a year.
    I don't want an HOA at all, but I also didn't want to move into an older neighborhood.

    If you can find a neighborhood with homes built in the last ten years or so without built in HOAs, let me know, thanks.

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    how about if it's in the contract that you must refuse to allow blacks on the property?

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    Her deliberate decision not to read any of the certified letters the HOA was sending her over several months is a pretty important fact to be aware of..........
    Nope. Not relevant to the question of ”does the punishment fit the crime”

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    I'm just curious if he really is Rand Paul crazy as he sounds

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    Except that it leaves out some pretty important facts.
    Not really. Let's leave out the current contract for the moment. We know that people can sign contracts that detriment them, and that's their fault.

    The question is... should HOA contracts exist as cons uted, where one could forfeit a home that was paid for? Or should that homeowner be recons uted for their loss?

    Not paying $800 in dues and losing a $300,000 home sounds a bit one-sided to me.

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    I get a gym, pool, 24 hour securituy, several open areas, happy hours, and some other that I don't even know about.

    Blke
    more downstairs IQ level posting.

    neat

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    how about if it's in the contract that you must refuse to allow blacks on the property?

    Federal law took care of that in the 60s. Prior to that it was perfectly legal.


    Go cry to the Do Nothing Congress to actually do something.

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