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    I'd argue that Duncan is as good, if not better, shooter than Diaw. Sure, Diaw has 3-point range, but he's not all that good from distance. Duncan is money from midrange.
    I believe he's saying Tiago and Varejao aren't shooters, not Tim...

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    In a new York minute.

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    I think Splitter is still better for us than Varejao. I believe he is a better offensive player. He is actually not as bad as people think he is on the low block. Sure he had a bad OKC series offensively, unable to produce in the post against smaller defenders but that was one series where he was a little demoralized. It is in his character to bounce back. He is after all a proven and tested former MVP. I believe he still hasn't shown us what he is fully capable of doing in this league.

    I'm not saying that he's going to be star material, but he is a very quick 7 footer, I think he plays both sides of the ball very well, and still hasn't gotten an opportunity to fully show what he can do.

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    I wouldn't.

    Pop wouldn't pair Andy with Duncan for the same reason he doesn't pair Splitter with Duncan. Both players can't shoot. Diaw would still start because of his shooting abilities, so paying 9m/year for a backup Center is not a good idea. Plus, Andy is older and he is injury-prone.

    I am not against trading Splitter if it brings a good starting PF to be paired with Duncan. Varejao is not this guy. At least not in Pop's offensive scheme.
    It's more than that. He plays Blair and Duncan together. He has something personal against Splitter.

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    I'd argue that Duncan is as good, if not better, shooter than Diaw. Sure, Diaw has 3-point range, but he's not all that good from distance. Duncan is money from midrange.
    He lost confidence in his jumper against OKC and I think that hurt us.

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    I think Splitter is still better for us than Varejao. I believe he is a better offensive player. He is actually not as bad as people think he is on the low block. Sure he had a bad OKC series offensively, unable to produce in the post against smaller defenders but that was one series where he was a little demoralized. It is in his character to bounce back. He is after all a proven and tested former MVP. I believe he still hasn't shown us what he is fully capable of doing in this league.

    I'm not saying that he's going to be star material, but he is a very quick 7 footer, I think he plays both sides of the ball very well, and still hasn't gotten an opportunity to fully show what he can do.
    Splitter showed enough glimpses during the season but as long as Pop is the coach I am not sure how well he will develop.

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    Good question, tbh. Varejao has hit his ceiling as a player IMO. Splitter might have higher potential offensively, but that's remains to be seen. If Splitter had half of Varejao's ferocity, he would undoubtedly be the better player.

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    Although Splitter just might eventually earn a contract that even Omer Asik would be surprised at....
    Your overrating Splitter's value, he doesn't play defense well or rebound well, at least Asik was a defensive presence. As for Splitter being traded, I'm sick & tired of this dude he's soft as & gets bullied by Derek Fisher, nuff said.

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    It's more than that. He plays Blair and Duncan together. He has something personal against Splitter.
    Something personal against Splitter. That's so stupid. Pop does what he thinks is best to win. Whether it's right or it's wrong, it's what he thinks gives us the best chance. Anybody who undermines that undermines our 4 championships and is an idiot.

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    No but I would do is hire Hakeem Olajuwon to show him back to the basket moves.

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    Absolutely.

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    Good question, tbh. Varejao has hit his ceiling as a player IMO. Splitter might have higher potential offensively, but that's remains to be seen. If Splitter had half of Varejao's ferocity, he would undoubtedly be the better player.
    Remains to be seen? You forgot about the Splitter that was scoring at will during the RRT?

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    Remains to be seen? You forgot about the Splitter that was scoring at will during the RRT?
    On a consistent level and in the playoffs . . . yes. Remains to be seen.

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    no

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    Yes you trade him no question

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    Varejao is tougher and a MUCH better rebounder. If you want to keep Splitter after this year, you're going to have to pay him the Varejao kind of money anyway, so why not do it one year earlier, and get rid of two playoff chokers in SPlitter and Bonner. We get a better player and CLE gets salary relief.

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    After giving it much thought, yes I would.

    Splitter is a slightly better offensive player and still has a chance to develop. Varejao's major advantage over Splitter is his rebounding and hustle. He can be a beast on the boards and make those little plays that help you win. Defensively, I think they are equally skilled but Tiago's toughness (or lack thereof) gives Varejao the edge. Plus, Pop's lack of trust in Tiago makes it easier to make this desicion tbh.

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    This turned into a good thread while I wasn't watching. Well done to all. "tu

    Interesting how this question splits people right down the middle.

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    Splitter should have been trying to workout with Olajuwon this summer. Even Duncan could probably use a refresher.

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    Olajuwon is not able to work out with all centers of the league ... he might do that for Kobe, Dwight or Amare, but not for our guy Splitter

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    Something personal against Splitter. That's so stupid. Pop does what he thinks is best to win. Whether it's right or it's wrong, it's what he thinks gives us the best chance. Anybody who undermines that undermines our 4 championships and is an idiot.
    Disagree. Pop is human like everyone else and has his biases. Can't tell me he didn't/doesn't have man-love for Finley and Bonner. He definitely babies some players and are tough on others (Splitter being one of them). Look how he went ballistic on Tiago for not doubling who was it Durant. A mistake like that and he's benched. When Finley made mistakes, he wasn't benched vs Barry in comparison. It took the 30 point beat down from LAL for Pop to even play TD and Tiago together. When I see the lack of quality in big men around the league, I wonder why Tiago sits on the bench so much. Wouldn't blame him if he leaves when his contract is up.

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    Splitter may be at his peak value some time next regular season, if he repeats the performance he had last year. So even though it doesn't look like a bad trade value-wise, obviously Splitter may have a higher ceiling. So I would keep him and try and trade him at a higher value point before he gets hurt (inevitably) again.

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