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    lame excuses by people imo. Don't ID's cost around 10-15 bucks? The only Americans who can't produce ID's are certain Amish and Native Americans. The rest are probably illegal immigrants or people who have overstayed their visa.

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    To answer the OP, I assume human beings get upset over voter ID because I couldn't imagine a dog or cat caring too much... and the Japanese haven't invented robots with emotions. Yet.

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    To answer the OP, I assume human beings get upset over voter ID because I couldn't imagine a dog or cat caring too much...
    I don't know, this guy is probably upset over voter id laws.


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    I don't know, this guy is probably upset over voter id laws.

    He probably voted last election too...

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    Well, the theory is that there are a lot of poor minorities that don't have an ID. I work in a poor part of town and they seen to be able to produce ID at the convenience store.
    How do they use their government assisted payment cards without ID? Are stores failing to check IDs?

    Must be why parents still cannot feed their children. Their sell their food cards at 1/2 rate and other people are not checked for ID to use them.

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    I don't know, this guy is probably upset over voter id laws.

    From a typical birdbrain.

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    lame excuses by people imo. Don't ID's cost around 10-15 bucks? The only Americans who can't produce ID's are certain Amish and Native Americans. The rest are probably illegal immigrants or people who have overstayed their visa.
    this.

    of all the things you need an ID to do, poor people sure do a lot of them. such as buying beer/cigarettes, getting on welfare, etc. actually if you think about it, this actually is more likely to affect rich people who don't drive because they have chauffeurs than it is poor slobs who need their vices. What a travesty! everyone picking on the upper class

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    The thread le begs the question; are there other species that even think about voter identification?
    Damn it, Yoni beat me to the punch.

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    I've never voted. When I first heard of this I thought, "Wait, you don't have to do that already?" I even asked friends because I didn't believe it. So what happens? Do they ask you to put your name down and for your birthday or something? Also isn't it law that every American has a social security number? So who doesn't have that card or know the number? Wouldn't that be simple and good enough to id?

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    I've never voted. When I first heard of this I thought, "Wait, you don't have to do that already?" I even asked friends because I didn't believe it. So what happens? Do they ask you to put your name down and for your birthday or something? Also isn't it law that every American has a social security number? So who doesn't have that card or know the number? Wouldn't that be simple and good enough to id?
    Yes, a simple thing. I can't help but believe that those who don't want to check for ID's believe the system is corrupt, and wan t to keep it that way.

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    Yes, a simple thing. I can't help but believe that those who don't want to check for ID's believe the system is corrupt, and wan t to keep it that way.
    You consistently have demonstrated that you will believe what you want to believe without any empirical basis.

    .08% of the cast ballots is .08%. Not a single district claiming that the outcome was determined by fraud is what it is.

    Why do we need these laws? Its a really simple question that keeps getting avoided.

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    I've never voted. When I first heard of this I thought, "Wait, you don't have to do that already?" I even asked friends because I didn't believe it. So what happens? Do they ask you to put your name down and for your birthday or something? Also isn't it law that every American has a social security number? So who doesn't have that card or know the number? Wouldn't that be simple and good enough to id?
    Birth certificates. Utility bills. Etc have all been used as ID.

    8% of white voters. 12% of latin voters. 14% of black voters.

    Thats who doesn't have ID's.

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    I have quit a bit of identifications. God bless

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    I've never voted. When I first heard of this I thought, "Wait, you don't have to do that already?" I even asked friends because I didn't believe it. So what happens? Do they ask you to put your name down and for your birthday or something? Also isn't it law that every American has a social security number? So who doesn't have that card or know the number? Wouldn't that be simple and good enough to id?
    I show them my voter registration and my drivers license and sign the register next to my name when I vote. It's really pretty easy. Sorry your democratic voters are so ing stupid they cant do the same thing.

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    I show them my voter registration and my drivers license and sign the register next to my name when I vote. It's really pretty easy. Sorry your democratic voters are so ing stupid they cant do the same thing.
    There are a disproportionate number of elderly that do not have state issued ID's either.

    Why do you hate your contemporaries and minorities?

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    There are a disproportionate number of elderly that do not have state issued ID's either.

    Why do you hate your contemporaries and minorities?
    The ID problem needs to be addressed. They shouldn't go without it.

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    The ID problem needs to be addressed. They shouldn't go without it.
    What ID 'problem?'

    Seriously, be specific. Point us to where the voter fraud is a risk of changing election outcomes or better yet how these types of laws will prevent such an outcome.

    You claim to be a libertarian against needless regulation. You are no more a libertarian than you are a NAACP supporter.

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    What ID 'problem?'

    Seriously, be specific. Point us to where the voter fraud is a risk of changing election outcomes or better yet how these types of laws will prevent such an outcome.

    You claim to be a libertarian against needless regulation. You are no more a libertarian than you are a NAACP supporter.
    FuzzyDude...

    It can be a serious issue if people don't carry ID, especially the elderly. Put the vote issue aside for a minute. Everyone needs valid ID. It's a bigger problem than an undetermined number of votes if they don't have ID.

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    It can be a serious issue if people don't carry ID, especially the elderly. Put the vote issue aside for a minute. Everyone needs valid ID. It's a bigger problem than an undetermined number of votes if they don't have ID.
    libertarian. the bolded is totalitarian. we should require passes to cross borders too.

    Where does this problem manifest? Cannot name a single district can you?

    So if I leave my ID at home that means I am a problem? If I was elderly this would be moreso?

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    libertarian. the bolded is totalitarian. we should require passes to cross borders too.

    Where does this problem manifest? Cannot name a single district can you?

    So if I leave my ID at home that means I am a problem? If I was elderly this would be moreso?
    What happens if you leave your ID at home and end up unconscious in a hospital?

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    What happens if you leave your ID at home and end up unconscious in a hospital?
    then they cannot donate my organs if I die?

    the hospital cannot bill me as effectively?

    why do you claim to be a libertarian? eugenics, racism and totalitarian policies is the WC way.

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    then they cannot donate my organs if I die?

    the hospital cannot bill me as effectively?

    why do you claim to be a libertarian? eugenics, racism and totalitarian policies is the WC way.
    Do you think John Doe's get treated with the same medical care?

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    Do you think John Doe's get treated with the same medical care?
    I see you are now trying to change the subject.

    So for review, you can give no basis for requiring people to carry ID other than you think it might get you better health care if you are knocked unconscious.

    And you use this same brain to conclude that health care is a privilege and not a right.

    Does it hurt?

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    I see you are now trying to change the subject.

    So for review, you can give no basis for requiring people to carry ID other than you think it might get you better health care if you are knocked unconscious.

    And you use this same brain to conclude that health care is a privilege and not a right.

    Does it hurt?
    No.

    I am only showing that you are only seeing ID inside one box. Everyone needs ID for a variety of reasons. If the excuse for not having ID a voting requirement is that not everyone has one, then we are far worse of in other areas. It's a ing lame excuse.

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    big picture

    You make this lame ass argument constantly. It's not like you are fooling anyone with these claims of me not being able to see the big picture every time you fail to elucidate any empirical examples.

    I know you don't have the balls to claim that it helps criminal law enforcement because at that point you might as well put a swastika in your avatar. although you probably do think that. you are a tool for authoritarianism.

    You so far have demonstrated that people may want to carry ID because it will get them better health care.

    Why should the government how good of health care you get? While you talk about my inability to see the big picture you fail to see the logical extensions of your arguments.

    You are saying that the government should mandate people carry better ID's because the result would be better health care. Now compare and contrast that with your opinion on the government insuring health care for people in general.

    Are you just a glutton for punishment? You decry me being a bully but for s sake do you make it hard. You say incredibly stupid simpleminded and then posture with this lame ass tripe.

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