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no but what he's saying is the foul occurs. Light contact or not it's in the rule book and fining a player who gets fouled isn't justifiable.
If I read the rule right, the refs won't be involved in judging, real time, whether a flop occurred or not. That would occur after the game and fines issued accordingly. It would only be a money punishment, not a game changer, and the thought is to curb the tendency by making it a risky move. It will still happen, but when someone spends all game doing it, it could rack up some fines and it's quite possible their flops did nothing to help the team.
Still, every drive to the rim for a contested layup is going to result in someone flopping. The offensive player throws their hands up wildly pretending they got hit when they really just made a bad decision and challeged Ibaka or some other shot blocker, and the defense is going to set their feet and pretend a graze from one side knocked them down because they cannot defend.
no but what he's saying is the foul occurs. Light contact or not it's in the rule book and fining a player who gets fouled isn't justifiable.
Then I see the refs using this as a tool to say that they are fair, continue to give flops to the "preferred" team, then hand out monetary punishments, giving the false impression of fairness, while further infuriating fans.
Seriously though, tough to call. Could you imagine, Game 6 of a WCF, home team up by 1, some guy flops on defense and got an offensive foul call on the opposition, have the basket waived off, won the game, then the next day, the league said, oops, wrong call, that was a flop, shouldn't have been an offensive foul called. $5K fine, but you win a pivotal game in the playoffs, sorry I screwed you road team.
All would break loose, and for some strange reason, you can count on that home team being one of the preferred teams, never fails.
Does ambchang make excuses for everything in life?
What a weak-minded person, who has probably fathered weak-minded children
Flopping is the result of some players getting calls for being fouled--while other players would get hacked and would not get the call.
So players started to exaggerate the contact to force the refs to blow the whistle. Evertime someone touches Kobe-- he yells out like a little ---and-- gets the call. Is that flopping? Is the league going to enforce that?
No.
Star players will get the calls and non-superstars will get fined for flopping.
Seemed like my weak-mind broke yours. Love having you follow me around, helps build up my weak self-esteem.Does ambchang make excuses for everything in life?
What a weak-minded person, who has probably fathered weak-minded children
What I am interested in is the reaction of S. Jackson to the "new" rule on Technical fouls.
"IF you stare at the opponent's bench, without saying a word, that is going to be a T, depending on how HARD you actually stare."
I'd love to know TD's reaction to the new rule:
"If you block a shot of a 6'10 opponent whose initials are K and D, you will be charged with a fould, unless the said opponent has already taken 65 FTs.
Or Parker's reaction on another new rule:
"IF you don't touch an opponent, but the opponent scores, that is an authomatic And1"
Or Leonard's reaction to the most creative new rule:
"If you get clubbed in the head and lose the ball out of bounds, it opponent's ball: in the end, he didn't touch the ball, but your head.
Just a TOSB being his TOself tbh
Good strategy, champ
? You saw me post about Kobe in this thread? Help me find it, must have gone blind.Good strategy, champ
If one were to do a search of your last, say...100 posts in this forum, what percentage would mention or reference Kobe?
70%, maybe? Do you agree that a normal person would find that obsessive and unhealthy?
You can't win, ambchang...there's only degrees of losing for you.
Exaggerating the call is the equalizer to the advantage players have on offense. Allow hand-checking on the perimeter again.
I'll be interested in seeing how many flops are called against international players vs black players at the end of this year.
there's no need to get personal with ambchang about being a dad. should we hold your dad accountable for the glib, emo puss you've become?Does ambchang make excuses for everything in life?
What a weak-minded person, who has probably fathered weak-minded children
besides he raises a good point. flopping needs to be curtailed, but the league will probably it up and continue letting superstars get away with whatever they want.
I have no idea who you are.
Exaggeration of contact stems from ty reffing and players just trying to get the call they deserve.
Yes, but that's how it goes. The majority of flops happen away from the ball, and many are indeed never called but nothing gets done about it so it continues. Where the ball is concerned, the refs will continue to be the in-situ governing authority. You cannot change a culture overnight but you can make a showing that you are trying. That's about all Stern is after.
It happens in most contact sports, even boxing. It's basically impossible to stop/detect it all the time, real time.
I love how Lakers fans always call out manu yet Fisher is every bit as bad if not worse and they also loved vlade when he was a Laker. I hate flopping period whether its manu fisher Paul or anyone. How about the verbal flops and flailing arms on every drive that doesnt result in a basket for Kobe and pau. Ive seen then get countless calls from doing this.
Correction...all would only break loose if if went against the Lakers favor or other favorite teams. Case and point...the Fisher no call on Barry...the national media was like "eh...Barry didn't really sell it enough". Which now that I think about it actually contradicts what they are complaining about. Again proving the point....only if it goes against the Lakers if everyone up in arms.
I love how spurfans still cry about officiating and swear the Lakers have all those advantages, yet they still continue to watch a league with a supposedly stacked deck. What simple, simple people
Dont you continually make excuses for Kobe though? Good thing you don't have any children.Does ambchang make excuses for everything in life?
What a weak-minded person, who has probably fathered weak-minded children
So in this thread, where I have not talked about Kobe, your main arguments against mine is that I talked about Kobe in 70% of the posts in other threads?
What I do find is that over the last few days, 100% of my post have you commenting on them, do you agree that a normal person would find that obsessive and unhealthy?
You talking about degrees of losing? Which is just odd, what was I trying to win? I really can't win because I am not trying to win anything, unless you are trying to lose something, and I just somehow win by default.
Do you think he knows who you are? Wait, you know anyone on this board?
What excuses?
The ones you make for kobe's chucking on the regular, don't flip flop now just own it
Could you be more specific.
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