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  1. #101
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    no son your idea of being honest is to play the safe ground so that you can swap back and forth and never look "wrong". I'm not saying the refs are the reason the Saints are 1-4, but they are the reason why the Saints lost to Green Bay last week and I'll stand behind that 100%. no other team has had to deal with the bull the Saints have had to deal with this off season. its impressive that they are as good as they are right now to be honest. again ... NO ONE is beating the Saints ... they have been beating themselves ... but the ship turned around tonight. they are going to win at least 8 games this season. I'm predicting 9-7 with a nice 5 game win streak towards the end of the schedule.
    The Saints got a ton of calls that game as well. Not sure how you can say the refs handed the Pack that game.

    I'm not being safe. I'm being honest. Big difference. You can't tell me that the Saints are playing well enough to be a playoff team. You forget to mention that they've played crappy teams for the most part and are still 1-4. What other game did the refs cost them? The Chiefs? , that's no excuse to lose to that awful team. Not sure why you're being so resistant when the evidence is right in front of you.

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    You can't tell me that the Saints are playing well enough to be a playoff team. You forget to mention that they've played crappy teams for the most part and are still 1-4.
    son the Saints lost to the ing 2-14 Rams and 4-12 Bucs last season, but that didn't stop them from finishing 13-3! ... its the NFL, not college football. any team can beat you on any given day. it doesn't matter who they have played because its only been 5 games.

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    oh and the Chiefs game was BS thanks to the refs as well. however as I said above (they deserved the loss) ... but the replacement refs called back 2 different Saints touchdowns that were clear touchdowns. even Goodell's announcers were in agreement that they were clear touchdowns.

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    son the Saints lost to the ing 2-14 Rams and 4-12 Bucs last season, but that didn't stop them from finishing 13-3! ... its the NFL, not college football. any team can beat you on any given day. it doesn't matter who they have played because its only been 5 games.
    Of course anything can happen, but it has to actually happen. Sure this team can figure it out. But they have alot of holes to fill before it can happen.

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    Of course anything can happen, but it has to actually happen. Sure this team can figure it out. But they have alot of holes to fill before it can happen.
    son thank you for proving my point with that comment right there.

    you're one of those "I hope I'm wrong, but ..." fans who plays the middle ground so that if the team sucks you can say "I told ya so" ... and if they start winning you can say "that's my Saints!!!"


    oh and with your "it has to actually happen" comment ... son its only been 5 games. there are 11 games to go.

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    son where were you last week whenever the officials called a bogus holding call on the Saints to back up the field goal and cost them the game?

    oh wait that's right ... you only about the officials when we win. sit down
    I was red-zoning. This game was the only thing on, prime-time, and it seemed like it went into story-book mode. Brees gets the record, camera pans to Payton every 5 min. Norv starting effing up the script when he realized Mathews >>>>>>> Battle. As someone who was hoping for overtime, I figured maybe I was biased watching the offensive PI call and the ensuing hold. Michaels and Collinsworth seemed to agree however.

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    son thank you for proving my point with that comment right there.

    you're one of those "I hope I'm wrong, but ..." fans who plays the middle ground so that if the team sucks you can say "I told ya so" ... and if they start winning you can say "that's my Saints!!! "oh and with your "it has to actually happen" comment ... son its only been 5 games. there are 11 games to go

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    I'm more of a realist than you will ever be. I'm not playing it safe. Its called being prepared to be disappointed. You know what they say BR, "hope for the best, prepare for the worst." I'm not one of those incessant homers. If you want to be an eternal optimist, that's your choice. But I can sleep better at night. And blaming the refs for two of the losses is sour grapes when the team got more calls in the Packers game and lost to the crappy Chiefs. Sure this team is talented enough to make a deep run (not really), but this team looks alot more like 2007 than 2011. Good luck with you optimism. I will give you a shoulder to cry on in case this team disappoints you like they did in 2007 and 2008.

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    son fail on the quote reply

    I am a Saints, Hornets, and LSU fan ... if you think that I am not critical of my teams then you obviously don't follow my post. I have been tremendously critical of the Hornets and LSU for the most part. The Saints on the other hand are the shining light of all three. I have never once said that the refs are the only reason they are 1-4 this season. you and others are attempting to put words in my mouth. I have said that the refs have cost the Saints a win or two this season, but the Saints are beating themselves and no other team has been thru what the Saints went thru this off season. I have stuck to that from the start.

    you can try and spin it however you want, but you're the typical "I hope I'm wrong ... but" fan. you want to play both sides of the fence.

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    son fail on the quote reply

    I am a Saints, Hornets, and LSU fan ... if you think that I am not critical of my teams then you obviously don't follow my post. I have been tremendously critical of the Hornets and LSU for the most part. The Saints on the other hand are the shining light of all three. I have never once said that the refs are the only reason they are 1-4 this season. you and others are attempting to put words in my mouth. I have said that the refs have cost the Saints a win or two this season, but the Saints are beating themselves and no other team has been thru what the Saints went thru this off season. I have stuck to that from the start.

    you can try and spin it however you want, but you're the typical "I hope I'm wrong ... but" fan. you want to play both sides of the fence.
    Obviously the Saints have faced adversity which is a huge reason for their play.

    Being a realist isn't playing both sides of the face. Its being honest and talking about the flaws and strengths on this team. The Saints are a shining light, but that light got dimmed recently especially allowing Gregg Williams to do whatever he wants (he should have gotten fired after the Seattle loss. Cost them a Super Bowl with his play-calling that game and at San Fran), poor drafting in recent seasons and still not being able to field a competent defense. This same defense cost them a Super Bowl last year especially after having an unstoppable offense.

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    Obviously the Saints have faced adversity which is a huge reason for their play.

    Being a realist isn't playing both sides of the face. Its being honest and talking about the flaws and strengths on this team. The Saints are a shining light, but that light got dimmed recently especially allowing Gregg Williams to do whatever he wants (he should have gotten fired after the Seattle loss. Cost them a Super Bowl with his play-calling that game and at San Fran), poor drafting in recent seasons and still not being able to field a competent defense. This same defense cost them a Super Bowl last year especially after having an unstoppable offense.
    your idea of being a realist is playing both sides of the fence. my idea of being a realist is exposing facts. we need to agree to disagree and move on.

    yes I agree about the Williams nonsense and the bull defense costing them another ring last season. however whenever the money is all tied up in the offense that is what happens. the Packers have the same problem.

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    your idea of being a realist is playing both sides of the fence. my idea of being a realist is exposing facts. we need to agree to disagree and move on.

    yes I agree about the Williams nonsense and the bull defense costing them another ring last season. however whenever the money is all tied up in the offense that is what happens. the Packers have the same problem.
    What facts am I not exposing? I've exposed the facts all night. You choose to dismiss them. Sounds like you're not being a realist.

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    Sons, Vince Goodell and his team of scriptwriters clearly weren't going to allow the Chargers to spoil Brees' record party with Payton and Unitas' kid in the crowd.... but Norv should still be fired for just allowing the fix to happen so easily, tbh.... bring back the replacement refs...

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    Sons, Vince Goodell and his team of scriptwriters clearly weren't going to allow the Chargers to spoil Brees' record party with Payton and Unitas' kid in the crowd.... but Norv should still be fired for just allowing the fix to happen so easily, tbh.... bring back the replacement refs...
    Chargers need to move on from their oversized left tackle. He's had a history of mailing it in. He did it again tonight.

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    What facts am I not exposing? I've exposed the facts all night. You choose to dismiss them. Sounds like you're not being a realist.
    no you have exposed your OPINIONS ... not facts

    I have stated the fact that the Saints have lost all of their games by less than 8 points and you turn the other cheek to it. your idea of "Facts" is your opinions.

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    no you have exposed your OPINIONS ... not facts

    I have stated the fact that the Saints have lost all of their games by less than 8 points and you turn the other cheek to it. your idea of "Facts" is your opinions.
    Fine. I'm done.

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    Chargers need to move on from their oversized left tackle. He's had a history of mailing it in. He did it again tonight.
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    Relying on the Chargers' leftovers, the most blatant NFL rigjob since Super Bowl XL, and Norv Turner just to win one game

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    Relying on the Chargers' leftovers, the most blatant NFL rigjob since Super Bowl XL, and Norv Turner just to win one game
    I wasn't even bragging about the win dip . I was just talking about the Chargers left tackle Gaither. He has a history of mailing it in faking injuries and he did it again tonight. Overly sensitive tonight?

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    I wasn't even bragging about the win dip . I was just talking about the Chargers left tackle Gaither. He has a history of mailing it in faking injuries and he did it again tonight. Overly sensitive tonight?
    Not even showing up in this thread until the ref/Goodell-scripted comeback
    Bandwagon

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    Not even showing up in this thread until the ref/Goodell-scripted comeback
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    Overly sensitive during her cycle

    Need a tampon?

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    Starting with BRHornet, a REAL Saints fan, unlike yourself

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    Starting with BRHornet, a REAL Saints fan, unlike yourself
    Brees > Rivers '94 Chargers killing themselves Rivers constantly choking in the playoffs

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    Goodell hates us
    It's a conspiracy that we got punished for cheating
    Back to the paper bag era
    Still no non-tainted, legitimate championships

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    Goodell hates us
    It's a conspiracy that we got punished for cheating
    Back to the paper bag era
    Still no non-tainted, legitimate championships
    Giving up I see. Now you're responding to BR's comments. I accept your tapping out.

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    I got money on Stan Humphries being the next 94 charger to off himself

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