Benghazi attacks: more info.

[TheMACHINE]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...k-sources-say/

wow. freaking horrible.

[101A]

Like a damned Tom Clancy script.

There are two possibilities (and they will be believed an defended in this thread depending on tribal affiliation)

1. This is simply a sensationalist story - no help could have actually reasonably arrived

or

2. This is accurate/or close to accurate - that assistance was denied for whatever political expediency; and that for that reason, Americans died. Then, since then, the administration has been trying to keep this info. from getting out; first by deflecting this as a non-terrorist event, and now, well we see was the "and now" is.

[Nbadan]

Sources said....

:roll eyes

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fox News reporting on a politically charged topic

[TeyshaBlue]

Fox News reporting on a politically charged topic

Actually, I read this story in the LA Times, which is not exactly a Red Team stronghold.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actually, I read this story in the LA Times, which is not exactly a Red Team stronghold.

Ahh that does make a difference. i just saw the url and did not click.

[mercos]

The simplest answers tend to be the correct ones. What seems like the more plausible scenario, that we were caught off guard and some people got killed, or that president decided he didn't give a about the people in the consulate and left them to die? One argument wreaks of Trutherism. 9/11 Truthers Part II.

[AFBlue]

I wonder if other media sources would've reached similar conclusions if they dedicated research to the issue instead of focusing on "serious" stories like Obama's new campaign catch-phrases, Senate candidates talking about rape as God's will, Ann Coulter calling Obama a re , etc.

Don't get me wrong, Fox News covering this story as if it's the only thing going on right now is annoying. But the lack of research and accountability for what happened in Benghazi after four Americans were killed on the anniversary of September 11th is irresponsible.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I still say what i said initially and that was that it sounds like it was a product of the multi-ins utional cluster that are our intelligence services. The CIA is now pointing fingers and the Pentagon and vice versa. Before it was the State Department. One thing is becoming clear: the right inofrmation did not get to the right people in time. I have seen where there were operatives in the Mediterranean from all of the agencies and noen of them were sent.

This one I feel is on blue team. Not Obama as Fox News would want to paint it but the behavior of blue team after the WMD debacle. They hammered it to such a degree that the problem in the intelligence community was not fixed but rather exacerbated. The current hammering by red team is going down the same path. We all know the cliche.

It's an ins utional problem and needs to be addressed as such.

[AFBlue]

This one I feel is on blue team. Not Obama as Fox News would want to paint it...

It's an ins utional problem and needs to be addressed as such.

An ins utional problem for which the president bares the ultimate responsibility. And while it's not a responsibility that he's shied away from, I still think it's irresponsible that the American people have been slow-leaked information about just how big of a cluster it was because there's very little attention (relatively) being devoted to the story.

When 9/11 happened we were all in front of the TV getting the most up-to-date information from news and intelligence sources. Obviously this terrorist attack is nowhere near that magnitude, but it's ridiculous that there hasn't been similar attention paid to this story from media outlets across the board.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

An ins utional problem for which the president bares the ultimate responsibility. And while it's not a responsibility that he's shied away from, I still think it's irresponsible that the American people have been slow-leaked information about just how big of a cluster it was because there's very little attention (relatively) being devoted to the story.

When 9/11 happened we were all in front of the TV getting the most up-to-date information from news and intelligence sources. Obviously this terrorist attack is nowhere near that magnitude, but it's ridiculous that there hasn't been similar attention paid to this story from media outlets across the board.

Then it's something every president since Ike has been responsible for. You also completely disregard the point about how there are ins utional communication issues to put it mildly.

Instead you are just parroting the Fox News narrative. It's boring.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actually, I read this story in the LA Times, which is not exactly a Red Team stronghold.

I've been doing some research into this and the source is Fox. There are anonymous sources and they spoke with Fox. Others carried it. Now I will not go so far as to say that they are lying. But the converse of this is that a named source ie one Jennifer Youngblood, CIA spokesperson, has stated directly that this is not true.

[Libtard]

If our ultra-conservative congress would actually put proper laws in place to prevent the insulting of Islam and all religions besides Christianity, none of this would have ever happened. It's all because of that stupid video, that guy should be thrown in prison for life for violating those Libyans religious freedom, it's their religious freedom to attack those who commit blasphemy. Blaming this on Obama just makes me sick, it's all that redneck Mitt Romney's fault.

[AFBlue]

Then it's something every president since Ike has been responsible for. You also completely disregard the point about how there are ins utional communication issues to put it mildly.

Instead you are just parroting the Fox News narrative. It's boring.

The president himself said the buck stops with him. I'm not parroting Fox News narrative, I'm repeating the sentiment of the commander-in-chief.

[AFBlue]

By the way, I watched Meet The Press and This Week...both shows got a direct mention of Libya by the conservative (Carly Fiorina and Newt Gingrich) that were effectively dismissed by the show moderators. But, of course both had significant segments on Mourdock and reproductive rights.

Not surprising, but definitely disappointing.

[boutons_deux]

"buck stops with him"

Im-a-badass-macho-asshole, goes along with "not on my watch". It's all Hollywood crap.

What military less would want the WH micro-managing a tactical, local, not strategic, crisis in Benghazi that was over in a couple hours?

Benghazi is just another example of gotcha, distracting Fox/Repug bad-faith politicking.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

But the lack of research and accountability for what happened in Benghazi after four Americans were killed on the anniversary of September 11th is irresponsible.

I'm sure you felt the same way about the actual 9/11 when a Republican president was caught with his pants down and thousands of Americans died.

One thing I know is, Fox News didn't care very much about research and accountability on actual 9/11.

lol AFBlue
lol service before self

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

My favorite Fox News time period was when George Bush's presidency was rapidly turning into a giant abortion so Fox News decided it was going to focus on the disappearance of Natalie Holloway

white woman gone missing

[boutons_deux]

My favorite Fox News time period was when George Bush's presidency was rapidly turning into a giant abortion so Fox News decided it was going to focus on the disappearance of Natalie Holloway

white woman gone missing

white, but blond and pretty.

If Honey Boo Boo's mother went missing in Aruba, it wouldn't make the (Fox) news.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

dumb white gone missing

poor Natalee

[AFBlue]

I'm sure you felt the same way about the actual 9/11 when a Republican president was caught with his pants down and thousands of Americans died.

One thing I know is, Fox News didn't care very much about research and accountability on actual 9/11.

lol AFBlue
lol service before self

Yes, I did hold the president and administration responsible for the intelligence failures that led to the 9/11 attack.

lol dude who thinks he knows my thoughts because of an online tag

As for Fox News and their motives, I'm not denying they're biased. I do think though, whatever their motive they're close to the only ones who are giving the story its deserved research and airtime.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Yes, I did hold the president and administration responsible for the intelligence failures that led to the 9/11 attack.

I'm sure you did. I'm also sure that however you held Bush responsible, it didn't stop you from voting for him again in 2004.

lol dude who thinks he knows my thoughts because of an online tag

I know your thoughts because it's obvious how much of a partisan hack you are.

As for Fox News and their motives, I'm not denying they're biased. I do think though, whatever their motive they're close to the only ones who are giving the story its deserved research and airtime.

I'm sure this isn't the first time you've felt Fox News was the only station giving a negative story about a Democratic politician the time it deserves.

[AFBlue]

By the way, credit to Face the Nation for putting McCain on and engaging Rahm Emanuel on Libya.

[AFBlue]

I'm sure you did. I'm also sure that however you held Bush responsible, it didn't stop you from voting for him again in 2004.


I know your thoughts because it's obvious how much of a partisan hack you are.


I'm sure this isn't the first time you've felt Fox News was the only station giving a negative story about a Democratic politician the time it deserves.

I didn't vote in '04. Yet another failure to try to pigeonhole me as a devout Fox News conservative.

And the story doesn't have to be a partisan one based on who is president. I'll go back to one if the original statements I made...on 9/11 and the subsequent weeks that followed, EVERY news source was committed to providing the American people with details on who committed the act, the victims, how it happened, what led up to it, etc. This time it's as if every media outlet except for Fox News is content with the president's response of "we'll get to the bottom of it" and not doing their own research and reporting. It's irresponsible for it not to even get mention on Sunday news shows with so much still left unanswered.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I can't imagine that's because 3,000 people died on 9/11, a terrorist attack IN AMERICA, while 4 people died in the Benghazi attacks that took place IN BENGHAZI.

I also can't imagine it's a lot harder to find out who's responsible for some tiny terrorist attack on the other side of the world compared to a large scale terrorist attack on American soil.

But go ahead and keep comparing the Benghazi attacks to 9/11 since it's what every other partisan hack seems to be doing