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More reason to trade him.
If at all possible, I'd like him to never wear another jersey ever again. Shouldn't have left here in the first place.
More reason to trade him.
That's exactly what the Spurs offered him last time and he walked, Spurs still owe him for low balling him the last time. If the Spurs were willing to pay that other guy 14 million a year or whatever it was, then Sjax is easily worth 6 million a year. He's also a big reason why the Spurs were able to become contenders again, not the only reason, but a big part of it.
If you are a contending team and you need a SF or backup SF then he is a great player to have, and I think he is worth the mid-level exception if you are a contending team. Even someone like Shaq knows he's a great piece for a contending team. Shaq suggested that the Bulls should trade for him last season as he thought that Jack would help their chances at a Championship.
I understand your love for S-Jax and I also love him but it's a totally different situation. And the Spurs don't owe him . He is getting 10m this season.
Jefferson was a gamble. Back then, SA didn't have a starting material SF , now they have a very good young one. The priority next season is a BIG. If SA has the chance to bring a good BIG and if it means no S-Jax, yeah I prefer the BIG. The only player I would prefer to keep over a new BIG is Manu and he is the biggest priority next season.
All the other players are replaceable, including S-Jax. Yeah, I love his toughness, I love his at ude, but I love a good BIG to be paired with Duncan more.
S-Jax is a good player to have when you have a franchise like San Antonio and a coach like Pop that can deal with him. Otherwise, he is a cancer. Ask GS, Indiana or Milwaukee if they wanna him back.
S-Jax won't gauge much interest around the league if his GOAL is the MLE. You can book my words. As I said, I love him but SA clearly has bigger needs than a backup SF.
Last edited by elemento; 11-18-2012 at 09:49 PM.
Manu has lost a step and has become very injury prone. Jack is more than just a backup SF, he makes 3's like Horry did and the Spurs can go small without sacrificing rebounding with Kawhi and Jack. I agree the Spurs need a bigman, but unless they can get a bonafide all-star PF for Jack (tbh, I would consider trading Manu too), it would be better to just bring K-Mart or Dice.
The next season, Manu and Jack will take paycuts which will open the possibility to sign an starter quality bigman.
If the Spurs let him go, then they will be thin at backup SF too, so I disagree with what you are saying. Especially when lots of team like playing small ball, and some of the most potent scorers in the NBA play either SF or small ball PF. SF is just as big of a priority as a big man is to put next to TD. If you let him go, then you are creating another hole there. Manu and Danny are simply not big enough to play SF on a regular basis, and if they have to defend guys like Lebron or KD then we would not be in good shape.
Sign him for 3 years, less than 500M a year, last year not fully guaranteed
What do you think Jack should be offered Timvp?
I like that Al Jefferson trade
Al Jefferson is a mediocre defender though. Offense isn't our main problem.
It's not like Jefferson brings anything to the table that Duncan doesn't bring, tbh...
Once his current contract expires ,of course.
If we were to extend his deal, the lowest we could pay him would be $9 million dollars.
Spurs are in tank mode after this year...they aren't signing any of these guys.....it's over...
Most of those trades are ing re ed.
Imagine if the Spurs had gone after Jax instead of RJ.
For the first time in forever the Spurs actually have the cap space to sign a big free agent this year, and with the likes of Millsap and Jefferson available we can't afford to miss out. Theres no chance Jax is getting an extension before the summer.
I hope we can get him for the room exception of $5m/2 years, meaning we could waive him and his massive cap hold and then resign him as a free agent. Hopefully Manu will take $10m/2years or less and Jax, Manu and Timmy can all retire together.
What do you think would be a good trade then?
I agree.That would have been great, but we had no clue a 19 ppg guy would turn into the crap he was here.
I knew it in the first month he was here and I even wanted to trade him for Jack at the time. I watched RJ for about a month and concluded that he needs to go. That was when Sjax first asked to be traded from Goldenstate. Only a few people here were interested. Pretty much everyone here wanted to keep RJ at the time and no one wanted anything to do with Sjax. I was told RJ is a better player for the team. LOL, total fools.
I don't see any reason why the Spurs should or would offer him an extension during the season. He'lll either be traded at the deadline or be dealt with in the summer when they gauge how much cap space they'd have and identify potential FA targets for the available cap space.
it be funni if the FO low balls him again with another lame contract offer like the time at the end of 03.....
i think the spurs wouldve repeated in 04 with jax instead of the turk who dissappeared that year...
04/05/06 << wouldve been the years the 3 young guys the team invested in would all be playin in their prime...gino, parker, jax...= championships...
not many good FA worth looking at anyway....
Crazy to think of but you may be right, we might have one more le in 04 if he was here! I can see that. Hedo was some later on that year. 05 we won and 06 maybe, but he would be here over say who Finley? Finley was a SG I know but he played the three alot that year or so when POP went SMALL LOL. If Jax stayed here we would have one more le maybe.
Howard
Bynum
Smith
Jefferson
Millsap
Obviously Howard isn't going to come here, but there are a few talented bigs out there. The top 3 are probably out of reach but the big teams will be chasing them, I'd love to sneak in under the radar and grab Millsap. We'll probably have to overpay to get someone but could be worth it to make the most of Duncans last year or two
While Milsap and Jefferson are really good players, we'd have to offer a boatload just to land one of them, and I don't think either guy is a true cornerstone worth tying up our finances for the long term. What, are we going to give big Al 5 years for 70 million or whatever he's going to demand? Plus he's not a good defender, and isn't a great compe or. I still remember last year he essentially threw in the towel after game 3 of the first round. I also don't think Milsap is worth 10 mil per year for 4-5 years for our team. Considering we have a rebuild on the horizon, I'd rather retain financial flexibility unless we get some true cornerstone. I'd rather take a risk with Bynum than commit to big Al for the long term. Its just going to be another albatross contract ala RJ for a player that is never going to be a #1 on a contending team.
I think unless something spectacular happens where Dwight or Bynum (lol, imagine) decide to come to San Antonio, we will try to keep Jax for a 2 year deal, maybe 3 like has been mentioned. But nowhere north of 5 mil per year tbh. Keep our cap space open to make a big splash another time, instead of throwing it at guys like Al or Milsap
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