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Still re ed and unfunny, like most of your posts.
Preserving life is re ed? These were two white teens. Sure they were doing crime but in a few years, they would probably both have gone to college and become responsible members of society. But since the homeowner subscribed to the "shoot to kill" method, they'll never have the chance. I guess if a baby spits up and ruins the carpet, you'd want them to die also?
Threat Neutralization training could have given all three of these people involved a new chance for life. Now, we have two dead and one probably in jail.
Still re ed and unfunny, like most of your posts.
Unbeavable!
comparing 2 people who intentionally and knowingly intruded to a baby spitting up and ruining carpet
Thank you, I was unsure if it was a little too high brow.
This homeowner acted out of fear and anger...if you've ever been robbed or had your car stolen / broken into, it can be infuriating...in this case the guy had been burglarized 3 times prior...can you imagine his anguish and fear of having his home repeatedly violated (likely by this same pair)...I bet he sat alone many a nights saying: "If I ever catch them I'm going to ing blow their gotdam heads off and ing torture them." I think he acted in the heat of the moment and should be given a pass...I'm sure if these were 2 black guys killed most of you would be saying give the home owner a pass.the fact that it's a decent looking white girl and a typical all american wanna be white boy strike at the conscience of most observers because that's not what were used to seeing...
it prolly went down like this...these kids made a pact that they would eventually die together someday...the man was prolly robbed last thanksgiving while away and decided he'd set a trap this year...so he waited and finally this pair shows up. the man heard them breaking in and retreated to the basement...the boy was supposed to go in first while the girl looked out. He was then supposed to signal back to her the coast was clear... the boy went in and headed for the basement where the man was waiting...the home owner then executed him gangnem style... shotgun blast to the knees and then one to the face...the girl could have heard the shots and decided she was going for her cousin or she decided he was taking too long to return the signal it was ok...when she got in he hit her with a blast...but most of the bullet hit the stairs...the gun jammed and even though she knew she was in deep she knew then that her cousin was prolly already dead and that she was likely going to die as well...so her laugh was just a go ahead kill me you up laugh...he then pumped her chest full of bullets..and then gave her the clean kill shot...
Now their is an alternate Koolaid theory...which is she came down the stairs and he was like ohh this look good...I ain't had no pussy in years...so he told her he killed her cousin but that he'd spare her life if she gave him some head, ass,and pussy...so they ed while her cousin lay dead on the floor...after he nutted in her he thought she might yell rape and so they fought over the shotgun while half naked and slipping and slidding in his 60yr old that was all over the floor..she managed to break away from his grasp and started to run back up the stairs..he saw her ass as she was climbing the stairs and didn't want to shoot because she looked so dam good from behind...but the on his hands made him slip and she took a shot gun blast to the ass...she fell back down the stairs...she was in pain and said he was louzy and this was shriveled up and useless...this reminded him of what his ex wife used to say...so he her a couple more times center mast..he then delivered the kill shot...pulled his pants up went upstairs and ate some Turkey and dressing. with cranberry sauce..he then called police the next day...
what the is wrong with you?
just saying if it was me and 64 yrs old I would have bartered for some of her 18yr old pussy...if she said no then goodbye....gangnem style...the choice would be hers...
This head is whacked. (unless you were making fun of CTOA)
I was just feeding the troll- "cant-think-of- -thats-funny-so-i-troll"
Absolutely.
Why kill someone when - if you are an expert-you can just "guide" the bullet into his spinal cord and put the bas in a wheelchair for life.
This will give him plenty of time to ponder over his decision to burglarize you.
Take some classes people. For info- just PM cantthinkof anymore.
Take enough of CTOA's mystical classes and you don't even have to worry about them shooting back.
Take enough of CTOA's mystical classes and you don't even have to worry about them shooting back.
You are starting to see the light,grasshopper!
koolaid man is a ing weirdo head, dayum sons
a bukkake goes wrong when using a real gun
what if he used the "putting her out of her misery" argument. if i was shot like that and spewing up blood id probably want that kill shot.
Must have Zen powers to be able to control the angle changes as it goes through the skin and muscle layers. I think that ability would also require X-ray vision, so you know exactly how thick the layers are, and the exact placement of the heart. That's really a good talent to be able to develop. I wish us mere mortals could develop such an ability.
This head is whacked. (unless you were making fun of CTOA)
Haha...I get it. Also the Wanted jokes. But seriously, there is a segment of martial arts dedicated to using the gun as an extension of the body. Gunkata. Why is it so easy to think of using a baseball bat or knife as a non-lethal weapon but not a gun? Just because it separates from the bullet??? But I guess this is what the Obama administration is banking on. Gun nuts that have nothing but death on their mind. And honestly, if people aren't willing to even think about guns with non deadly force, maybe they should pick up all the firearms.Take enough of CTOA's mystical classes and you don't even have to worry about them shooting back.
Ummm, no. The problem with your argument is a legal one. Old saying, "dead men tell no tales". Someone breaks in your house, you shoot to maim, not kill, you now have the other side of the story to deal with. Example:
Perp: Yeah, Im a drug addict and broke into his house to feed this horrible addiction. Homeowner catches me in the act, I surrendered immediately! He then proceeded to shoot me in the knees as some sort of retribution. I had already surrendered!
Doesnt matter is his/her story is true, you the homeowner and he the perp are the only two people in the room who know what really happened. Any defense lawyer worth their salt can manipulate ballistic forensics reports to suit this argument.
No, unless you want to spend the next 4 years of your life in and out of court with the real possibility of being charged, tried and convicted for a violent felony, if someone enters your home and you CHOOSE to protect your life and property with a firearm, you shoot to kill, period.
I hear you. The home is a very different situation. Most Threat Neutralization training would be best suited for outside the home. Like the Trayvon Martin thing. Or the Batman shooting. Or anything else where someone feels threatened. But yeah...once someone gets in your home, it certainly changes things. But I still believe in trying to preserve life if possible. I mean...what if it was some child that was lost and wandered into the house. Certainly a well placed shot to the knee or foot would be preferable to killing him or her.
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Once you decide that shooting is absolutely necessary, shoot to kill.
@ shooting a lost child in the knee.
Cant think of is trolling everyone here. Nice.
Once you brandish a weapon outside your home and property, the legal rules change along with that decision (in most states anyway). While I can understand your want to preserve life, I will not mock you for that, you DO NOT discharge a firearm to maim. The moment you choose to squeeze that trigger, it is to kill. If youre suggesting using the firearm as a threat, to give a very strong warning to cease, desist and remain still, then I wouldnt argue with you. If the perp is willing to surrender and obey commands given, then by your choice, they should live to see prison, especially if you are not in your home or property. If a thug pulls a weapon, be it knife or gun, and I have a gun, they die. If they threaten me with only their perceived physical superiority, then I would try to detain them with my firearm.
But in your home, the law allows that decision by the homeowner. No offense, and call me what you will, but here are some assumptions one can make about people that break into your home:But yeah...once someone gets in your home, it certainly changes things. But I still believe in trying to preserve life if possible. I mean...what if it was some child that was lost and wandered into the house. Certainly a well placed shot to the knee or foot would be preferable to killing him or her.
1) They have clear intent meaning they planned to do this, it is not some snap decision.
2) They have the home scouted in some capacity, be it for hours, days or weeks.
Most importantly and the rationale behind deadly force...
3) They know youre home.
Think about that for a moment. A thief only wants to steal valuables, they would go to great lengths to avoid any altercation if at all possible. But a thief ceases to be "only a thief" when they enter your home with the knowledge that people currently sleep in said home. Now you are a very dangerous threat, the most serious kind of threat you can encounter in life. They have a) the criminal capacity to do it to begin with, b) the moral ambiguity to enter a home with residents and c) the all-important element of surprise on their side.
I dont know about you, but the thought is incredibly scary to me to think about. The kind of individual who would break into your home knowing you were there. *shudder* I mean, they know youre HOME!! My first assumption about such a person isnt that theyre here for my valuables, do you know what I am saying? Theyre ing sick, in the head, and my first thought isnt "Oh , my big screen LCD!"...its more like, "Oh , theyre going to kill me, rape my wife to death, murder my son and then probably make a sadnwich."
That type of human, that kind of trash that masquerades itself as something equal to you and everyone you know, literally sickens me to the core. Having your house broken into and robbed while away is horrible, but it shows a certain professional criminal decency that "no one was hurt in the making of this robbery".
No, you get into my house while my family and I are home, it will be the very last house you ever enter. There will be no surrender, no warning, no mercy. I am attacking with an overwhelming show of deadly force and killing any and all people unwelcome in my home, I dont care if youre holding a gun on me or running away in retreat, you all die today to the best of my abilities. I dont know what the aftermath will be for me on a personal level as I have never had to do anything like that (thank you God), but I am very confident that my conscience will be quite clear before the encounter begins. My rationale is sound. You can reasonably be assumed to be in my house with intent to kill my family. I hope they bury your ass in a shallow grave and that your death is slow painful.
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