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You're sneered at in here because you're an unapologetic read teamer incapable of looking at issues objectively. Red team = good, blue team = bad.
LOL They backed down...sent me an email....If you won't sign that one will you sigh this one?
The undersigned, for and in consideration of the receipt of a check in the amount of $____________, and other good and valuable considerations, does hereby waive and release any and all lien or claim or right of lien under the common law or statutes of the State of _______________, relating to Mechanics Liens, on the above described premises and improvements thereon, and on the monies or other considerations due or to become due from the Owner, on account of labor services, material, fixtures or apparatus heretofore furnished to this date by the undersigned for the above described premises. The undersigned further covenants and agrees to save and hold harmless Owner, it’s agents, partners, lenders, successors and assignees from any and all liability or expenses on account of any charges or claims for labor and/or materials furnished to or by the undersigned on or for said job on or prior to the date hereof.
You're sneered at in here because you're an unapologetic read teamer incapable of looking at issues objectively. Red team = good, blue team = bad.
Red team LOL
I'm hardly that, dumbass.
The fact that I think Obama is an absolutely terrible president doesn't automatically make me red team.
What was your response when RG suggested you become a democrat (as you're clearly a moderate)?
I have issues with both sides. It's a lesser of evil thing.
Your response was no, or something to that effect. That is not a "lesser of two evils thing", that is a complete disdain for a political party.
Agree that I have total disdain for Obama, Reid, and Pelosi.
Must have been a fun response to them. My response, I'll come meet you. I'll sign this and then we can make an exchange of this and my money. Thanks.
CC, do you have anymore similar stories from your work? Tbh I enjoy hearing this type of stories about people trying to
screw/scam someone over.
Still not good enough. It is a variation on "I promise I already got paid, and release any claim that might generate a lien".
Name Republican leaders you have disdain for.
Did quite a bit of work on a boiler at a laundry...several thousand dollars worth and the owner (chinese bas ) just flat refused to pay...nothing wrong with the work, he just didn't want to pay and told me so to my face. The boiler room was just a shack tacked on to the back of the building and didn't have a locking door. I went over there on my way to work one morning (about 5am) and pulled the flame safeguard relay, rewired the sub-base so when the power was turned on 120V went to the milliamp flame detection circuit instead of the 120V power circuit.
Flip the switch and *pop* the relay fries. They are about $800.
He got a new one, installed it and *pop* fried the relay.
Went and bought another one....*pop*
Got another contractor out there to install a new relay *pop*
They couldn't figure out what was wrong.
Called another contractor...*pop*
They couldn't figure out what was wrong
He finally called me desperate because he had laundry piling up for two days and couldn't run...and I told to get a $4500 cashiers check for the work I had already done and another $1500 cashiers check as a deposit for me to come fix the boiler...flipped the wires back, slapped in a new relay and went to the bank.
Naa..it's OK...I sign conditional releases all the time...
see the difference?
The undersigned, for and in consideration of the receipt of a check in the amount of $____________, and other good and valuable considerations, does hereby waive and release any and all lien or claim or right of lien under the common law or statutes of the State of _______________, relating to Mechanics Liens, on the above described premises and improvements thereon, and on the monies or other considerations due or to become due from the Owner, on account of labor services, material, fixtures or apparatus heretofore furnished to this date by the undersigned for the above described premises. The undersigned further covenants and agrees to save and hold harmless Owner, it’s agents, partners, lenders, successors and assignees from any and all liability or expenses on account of any charges or claims for labor and/or materials furnished to or by the undersigned on or for said job on or prior to the date hereof.
Personally I don't think Boehner is very good. He needs to crack some heads and marginalize the right wingers that won't compromise... em over on committee assignments, deny them RNC re-election money, etc. Play powerball.
Yeah... I see it, but it still seems to me to be a bit ambiguous on the conditionality department. I am not a lawyer, although I do read a lot of contracts.
Pretty clearly says they only get the releases after I get my check.
WTF Cosmic...Take Mouse fishing already...
Seriously, they are squawking @ 1400.00 for all of that work?
The people that won't compromise will not quite be deterred, IMO. They are the results of "more conservative than you are" primaries in very solid districts for the most part.
I think Boehner is doing as good of a job as can be expected.
I will defer to your experience, as you have read more of these than I have.
Seems like it could be a bit clearer, but that is just my preference.
LOL
Legal do ents aren't designed to be clear. They are designed to perpetuate the hiring of lawyers.
I would agree to some extent. There is a certain populist movement in legal circles to make contracts into plain English, and I am all for that.
"I release any claim or lien, after I receive payment of X for my services."
One sentence. Easy.
Somewhat disagree. Bad lawyers write bad legal do ents. My client's pay me to write contracts that will not lead to them being sued. They get sued over my language, and its an issue I created to perpetuate more legal fees and I get fired, maybe even sued.
I personally would not sign. You certainly do not want to go to court over a stupid lien release. Tell them to pay you in cash or credit and you will sign their release. If they want to pay you with a check, you will sign once the check clears.
We have been pushing for this at our office. We try to delete obsessive wordiness and unnecessary legalese .
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