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He did that in his MIP trophy year and that's it. Boris has always been a very talented player with laziness tendencies, he is who he is and he won't change especially at this stage of his career
"if only he played like he has never played in his life, my prediction would be on target"
lol chicks with s.
He did that in his MIP trophy year and that's it. Boris has always been a very talented player with laziness tendencies, he is who he is and he won't change especially at this stage of his career
People going HAM on FkLA aka the welsher aka accepted to UT but willingly choose UTSA aka shemale porn is mah thing aka wish I hadda do ova.
You think its a matter of ability rather than just laziness? Ill admit I was wroing for expecting him to change because of the Spurs culture, I dont think saying hes more talented than the numbers indicate is inaccurate though."He's better than Lee in my hypothetical fantasy land where he's a much better player than he actually is!"
You said he's better than David Lee. Being better totally encompasses who is less lazy and who plays up to his ability more. Your argument wasn't, "Diaw is better than Lee when he's not being lazy," but it doesn't really surprise me to see you move the goalposts the way Diaw is playing this year.
David Lee is horrible. He's better than Diaw but thats no accomplishment. His teams haven't been better with him on the court versus off it for years now
AaronY is quickly rising in the re ed GNSF ranks
It's also funny how the filthy, filthy be@ner FkLA stopped posting in this thread after going full on re ed with his, "bu bu but Diaw would be better if he averaged a mythical stat line that his real stats don't come close to!"
i'd still take diaw over lee any day of the week.. not because he has a better offensive game or whatever, he simply makes a team better which lee doesn't. And that is not something that can easily change.. and c'mon, how long can golden state stockpile lottery picks until they finally get into a playoff team?
You're still re ed any day of the week
at least you should wait until the season is over instead of taking advantage of diaw plaing anywhere from 3 to 5 (and playing fairly well tbh) with 25% of the season over.. I mean, it's not like they are not known quan ies ...
there have been quite a few gnsf's coming down here, feeling pretty good about the Spurs' record over the past month. plus with Bonner in his usual early season form, expect the semen to keep leaking downstairs with the ty takes.
I don't need to wait till the season is over to know FkLA's 10 PPG 7 RPG prediction for Diaw isn't gonna happen.
no arguments here, but the winning record is an argument that should not be counted so early in the season .
I'd bet my left testicle that if the Warriors were 7-12 and not 12-7, Diawfan would be jerking each other off in this thread about Golden State's early season losing record.
i'm simply backing up my statement, not bandwagoning without a proper reason. No personal attacks here.
Is this a "Diaw, traitor, how could you join the Spurs and revive your career?" thread?
Sorry, new here. Anyway, Lee is better. I don't think he would work on the Spurs, true.
But if I'm given the choice to pick one of the two...
People, especially re s (sup Jeebus, DuncanOWNSKobe), don't know this about David Lee because he's a nice guy says all the right things, is a good interview etc. but he has absolutely no interest in defense and is regularly one of the worst defenders in the NBA. Look at his opponent counterpart numbers from the past two years:
http://www.82games.com/1011/10GSW14.HTM
http://www.82games.com/1112/11GSW12.HTM
Guys literally average 20/15 per 48, while shooting well over 50%, with around a 20 per against him. Like this isn't his numbers against good players this is his numbers against opponents overall.
In other words the average player becomes an all star at the mere sight of David Lee.
Lol @ this thread gmafb
This even understates his horried defense as I remember reading an article where they talked about his synergy numbers and his hel;p defense was even worse. Basically if not involved in the play he's content to just chill on the weak defense and let the other guys deal with it he can
t be bothered to rotate and take a charge and despite being a good leaper he is one of the worst shot blocking big men in the league. About the on;y gppd thing he does at that end of the court is defensive rebound
I was busy engineering, got.
Anyways I always said Diaw on the Spurs, go back and read the earlier posts in this thread. Thats because I expected (wrongly) that playing on a team like the Spurs would bring out the best in him...that obviously hasnt been the case which Ive admitted. Not sure what else youre trying to get at tbh.
I'm trying to get at the fact your hypothetical "Diaw on the Spurs" player never existed and you're changing your argument. Your argument was, "Diaw > Lee" (hence why you selected Diaw in the poll above) and you've since added the caviat, "If 'Diaw on the Spurs' loses weight and has his best season since 2006 with a career high in rebounding he's > Lee," even though you originally argued the fat Diaw from last season who averaged 4 and 4 was better than Lee.
You're trying to dismiss this as you making a perfectly logical and reasonable assumption that happened to not pan out in order to let yourself off easy when A) it was an illogical stupid assumption and B) you were arguing that the fat Diaw who averaged 4 and 4 last year was better than Lee.
David Lee is easily the better player, but I'd go so far to argue that Diaw is a better fit for the Spurs. More reliable post D, a better facilitator than Lee, and is better as far as spacing/range. Lee is more capable of putting up 20 in his sleep, but thats not really a need for the Spurs.
So what you're saying is that if Diaw wasn't overweight he'd be better than David Lee, even though Diaw has been overweight since 2006
Read previous posts, I always said I liked what Diaw brought to the table on a team like the Spurs over what Lee did. Obviously it would make no sense on my part to argue strictly numbers and say 4-4>20-10. Or to compare them when theyre in two completely different situations in GS and SA, you need some type of hypotheticals to make the comparison make some sense...and I always said on a lottery team Lee is the better option because of Diaws laziness. On a team like the Spurs I took Diaw because I assumed he wouldnt be lazy.
I was wrong about him getting his together. Not seeing how the assumption is illogical though, its not like players that have a reputation of being lazy raising their games on good teams is unheard of.
Yet you specifically said, post buy-out Diaw (i.e. the Diaw who averaged 4 and 4 on the Spurs last year) > David Lee.
So basically you took a fairytale non-lazy version of Boris Diaw that doesn't exist. Totally logical.
1) Your arguments were as if he already had gotten his together. You weren't saying, "Diaw is better than Lee IF he gets his together," you specifically said he's better than Lee regardless. Now your changing your argument to Diaw > lee being contingent on Diaw getting in shape and not being lazy.
2) It's illogical because you treated a possible scenario (Diaw getting in shape and not being lazy) as a foregone conclusion that was guaranteed to happen.
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