Lakers: SuperTeam 1-10 when Kobe scores 30+

[Brunodf]

Kind of weird to blame Kobe since he is shooting lights out and is seemingly the only one playing with heart right now.

He is the ballhandler right now, so not getting his teammates envolved is fault.

[spurraider21]

good

Did yall hear ESPNs spin job on the stat too? Some bull about how OKC is 5-1 when Durant scores 30+ so the Lakers being 1-10 doesnt mean much and basically has no correlation to the Lakers lack of success. As if Durant needs to chuck close to 30 shots to get his.

Durant isn't the primary ballhander on his team, so a large portion of his points come within the offense. He doesn't go into too many iso's, especially not in the first three and a half quarters. . Kobe has the ball in his hands as he crosses half court, and when he starts his iso with 20 seconds on the clock, sure, he'll get criticized.

[Texas_Ranger]

Heard Tim Legler on sportcenter defendig Kobe, that it's really not his fault. LOL

[ambchang]

He's the ultimate Teflon man, never gets the blame, always gets the credit.

I strive for that at work.

[Bane.]

Heard Tim Legler on sportcenter defendig Kobe, that it's really not his fault. LOL

[Muffled] He is L.A's reckoning, he is necessary evil that Lakerfans deserve.

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The only coincedence is that his shooting and scoring numbers go up, when his teammates are blowing ass and doing nothing to help. When he scores less than thirty, its because his teammates are actually giving some help and making plays, so that Kobe doesn't have to.

I'm no Laker fan, but lets not kid ourselves... this team is giving some really awful efforts and look like a mess, although Kobe is putting up the most efficient numbers of his career. If he was putting out these scoring outbursts with awful efficiency, then there may be a legit complaint about him. But he generally has been doing his part. Most of the team however, is not. Most of all, the coaching situation is a complete mess.

There is plenty of blame to go around, but Kobe probably deserves the least of anyone on the Lakers.

[Cry Havoc]

Kind of weird to blame Kobe since he is shooting lights out and is seemingly the only one playing with heart right now.

Kind of weird how Kobe never has enough help despite playing alongside 4 ing all-stars. Are you really going to bring that trash take into this thread? Dwight Howard has had games with less than 5 FGA's this year. That's criminal. That's absolutely a crime against basketball. If I were DHo, I'd quit on Kobe's chucking ass, too.

This isn't a new thing. This is what Kobe does. He destroys teammates because he makes them hate playing with him.

[DMC]

People don't have a problem blaming Westbrook when he goes off for 40 and the team loses anyhow. Kobe is just a 17 year version of that.

[Cry Havoc]

There is plenty of blame to go around, but Kobe probably deserves the least of anyone on the Lakers.

Kobe's such a leader

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Kobe's such a leader

Well he has 5 rings, and is one of the most accomplished players in the history of the NBA, so...

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I just don't get why spurfan has such a disdain for Kobe? My only guess is the consistent ass-rapings he has given the Spurs over the years, both in the regular season and the playoffs.

[Malik Hairston]

Agreed with stretch..

Howard only had 9 FGAs last game, but he shot 22 free throws..he got plenty of touches, tbh..

I agreed with the criticism the past few years, when Bryant was playing an inefficient brand of basketball, but he has played highly efficient basketball in 2012-2013, tbh..

Who else is going to shoot, tbh?..Meeks is getting plenty of touches, Metta gets his touches, Jamison plays a scoring role off the bench..Howard is the only player that may not be shooting enough, but he's getting to the line at a high rate, which produces a deceiving number of FGAs in the box score..

Kobe isn't Lebron, he's a poor leader and he's a terrible defensive player, but I wouldn't blame him for their offense..

[FkLA]

The only coincedence is that his shooting and scoring numbers go up, when his teammates are blowing ass and doing nothing to help. When he scores less than thirty, its because his teammates are actually giving some help and making plays, so that Kobe doesn't have to.

I'm no Laker fan, but lets not kid ourselves... this team is giving some really awful efforts and look like a mess, although Kobe is putting up the most efficient numbers of his career. If he was putting out these scoring outbursts with awful efficiency, then there may be a legit complaint about him. But he generally has been doing his part. Most of the team however, is not. Most of all, the coaching situation is a complete mess.

There is plenty of blame to go around, but Kobe probably deserves the least of anyone on the Lakers.

Doesnt matter if hes efficient or not, hes still shooting pretty much the same amount of shots as Pau and Dwight combined. You cant expect these guys to not blow ass when they dont get any touches. Theyve actually been efficient when they get their touches too. They got rid of Brown and have brought in a bunch of new role players, the only constant is Kobe continuing to chuck. Dude doesnt get any for how terrible he is defensively either, expect another all-defense nod tbh.

[Brunodf]

Well he has 5 rings, and is one of the most accomplished players in the history of the NBA, so...

Poor Kobe, never had had enough help, his teammates always suck, thank god he is good enough to carry deadweights like Shaq, Horry, Malone, Payton, Odom, Bynum, Gasol, and now DH/Nash.

[Malik Hairston]

Howard's usage % is down by a few points..factor a new system and coach that doesn't advocate post touches, in addition to being the #2 option instead of #1, and it explains the drop off..his touches haven't had the dramatic decline that is perceived..

Gasol has received enough touches, the problem is that his touches have been from outside his comfort zone..

Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all-time IMO, but his offense has been elite this season..

[DMC]

Well he has 5 rings, and is one of the most accomplished players in the history of the NBA, so...

You contemplating jumping ship or is your empathy centered more around the fact that your team also sucks this year?

[DMC]

Agreed with stretch..

Howard only had 9 FGAs last game, but he shot 22 free throws..he got plenty of touches, tbh..

I agreed with the criticism the past few years, when Bryant was playing an inefficient brand of basketball, but he has played highly efficient basketball in 2012-2013, tbh..

Who else is going to shoot, tbh?..Meeks is getting plenty of touches, Metta gets his touches, Jamison plays a scoring role off the bench..Howard is the only player that may not be shooting enough, but he's getting to the line at a high rate, which produces a deceiving number of FGAs in the box score..

Kobe isn't Lebron, he's a poor leader and he's a terrible defensive player, but I wouldn't blame him for their offense..

So you think "efficient" means play zero defense and shoot every time you get the ball. Got it.

as if Kobe gauges his efficiency when deciding to chuck
feeling sorry for a rapist who throws his team under the bus at every opportunity

[Clipper Nation]

Well he has 5 rings, and is one of the most accomplished players in the history of the NBA, so...

Doesn't mean he's a leader...

[gee]

Well he has 5 rings, and is one of the most accomplished players in the history of the NBA, so...

A Kobe Lakers team has never won a championship when Kobe was the player with the highest Win Share rating, all those rings had either Shaq or Pau performing at a higher level.
The more he excels in his individual stats the more he hurts his team, which is well do ented, but he clearly doesn't give a , which is also well do ented.

[BillMc]

Kobe's offense has been great this year, but he's not playing defense much. It's really like he's decided to save his energy on the defensive side of the court, so win or lose people can still say "Well, it's not Kobe's fault, he scored 35." I think he knows they're not going anywhere, so we're back to 2004-05 range where it's all about the numbers until Mitch gets him a contender again. He'll just shoot and shoot and shoot....

Kobe's smart, and PR savvy, he knows O is the way to go, if the team isn't going to win anything. If he can't catch MJ in rings, then points becomes the main focus.

[Clipper Nation]

Kobe's smart, and PR savvy

Considering he's a rapist snitch who arrogantly demanded trades, "PR savvy" is the last thing I would call Kobe...

[BillMc]

Considering he's a rapist snitch who arrogantly demanded trades, "PR savvy" is the last thing I would call Kobe...

He's very PR savvy. From the studio gangster things, to the "greatest Laker of all time", to the revisionist history that somehow he was top dog, not Shaq on the early Laker teams, he's played the media and the fans well. Even that trade demand didn't come off as a Howard-like BS, instead he's spun it as "I just want to win, because I care."

Kobe's a tool, but he's a smart tool I'll give him that.

[Brunodf]

Make that 1-11

[it's me]

Kirby is having a great season tbh..... 31 points today

[Latarian Milton]

is a pure scorer n has no idea how to make his teammates play better. its steve nash's job to improve teammates performances but kobe is required to play this role in nash's absence. people want him to play like magic when he's never played that way n he's already 34yr old