Handgun murder stats

[johnsmith]

Another alternet reality view.

Alternet reality view eh? Is that like an Internet company or something?

[purplengold]

all da talk of violence around USA but it just happen in ghetto neighborhoods n red states

[Koolaid_Man]

more than 10k killed last year thats more than total casualties US suffered in iraq n afghanistan wars combined tbh, nonetheless, stripping common people of the right to own guns legally would only increase that number since the true thugs will always get their guns the illegal way anyways

you pro gun advocates are extreme...no one is talking about taking away your guns...but the requirement to obtain them should be much more exhaustive...certain types should be banned from civilian use...and penalties (for those would be criminals) who would try to maintain such weapons should be so severe and draconian that not even from the grave would Bin Laden want to own one....

The reform would be comprehensive and it would work....

[Koolaid_Man]

What about the father?

I say give them a choice all right. Adoption. There are plenty of people who want to adopt infants. Few adoptive parents want kids raised already from someone else. I'll go past that. If children become the reason to get on the government take, then since responsibility was not used, to prevent this from happening again, both parents get their tubes tied. If the parents have a child they cannot afford to take care of at the time when they conceive, then make it so they cannot do the same thing again. Ehat right do they have to put tax payers in that position?

Abortion should be outlawed. It is immoral.

well when King David of Israel killed an Israeli soldier just so he could sleep with his wife, remember God decreed that the unborn child would die...and die it did...

if the mother's life is at stake or a woman is raped she should be free to abort....once a heartbeat starts then I classify it as baby...I don't consider Zygotes babies....anything you can freeze is not a baby...

people of all races do things for their personal benefit...as a black man I've observed the following and feel free to say:

• Poor Mexican's have kids to help them stay in the US...plus their catholic beliefs weigh heavy on them to not abort...sadly a ton of Mexican men like to molest their kids..apparently in harmony with the catholic's church best practices
• Poor Blacks tend to have kids for all kinds of government benefits...some have kids because the young black male has a voracious sexual appe e and is just spreading seed irresponsibly...
• Poor whites abort in the backyards of the Southern woods and so no one ever really knows the true aborted numbers of whites; they also have their kids and then resort to killing them when they get tired of taking care of them.

but I agree with you in a sense...regardless if your motivations are race related....on a macro level it's easy for people to take what you say concerning tubes tied as racist and dismiss it...but if you were to quantify the numbers locally and people could see the money coming out of their pay-checks because of the people having kids knowing good and well they have ZERO intention of taking care of those kids...I think they'd sing a different tune....

it's just about responsibility that's all...

[Will Hunting]

Koolaid_Man BULLYING the bible thumpers he's supposed to bully, no surprises here.

[Latarian Milton]

you pro gun advocates are extreme...no one is talking about taking away your guns...but the requirement to obtain them should be much more exhaustive...certain types should be banned from civilian use...and penalties (for those would be criminals) who would try to maintain such weapons should be so severe and draconian that not even from the grave would Bin Laden want to own one....

The reform would be comprehensive and it would work....

guys like you must also believe obamacare actually works tbh. enhancing the law will only make an impact on the innocent people who would never commit gun crimes anyway while the real trugs would still get guns illegally, which would leave the innocent people even more vulnerable to gun crimes imho. james holmes was a legal gun possessor but even if he wasn't allowed to have the gun legally, do you believe that he wouldn't have one illegally when it's much easier n cheaper to purchase a gun from black market than buy one from legal source? assholes would do massive killings but they wouldn't possess a gun illegally because it's illegal? quit fooling yourself brah

[Koolaid_Man]

guys like you must also believe obamacare actually works tbh. enhancing the law will only make an impact on the innocent people who would never commit gun crimes anyway while the real trugs would still get guns illegally, which would leave the innocent people even more vulnerable to gun crimes imho. james holmes was a legal gun possessor but even if he wasn't allowed to have the gun legally, do you believe that he wouldn't have one illegally when it's much easier n cheaper to purchase a gun from black market than buy one from legal source? assholes would do massive killings but they wouldn't possess a gun illegally because it's illegal? quit fooling yourself brah

what proof do you have showing Obama care doesn't work? so far so good as far as I can tell...your whole gun argument is a facade...a completely thoughtless talking point...similar to the white trash singular talking point of "I'm against big government" when people commit crimes they generally use hand guns...a comprehensive ban for certain types for certain people is a step in the right direction...harsher penalties for criminals will be a strong deterrent...thus far your argument is a joke...

[ALVAREZ6]

this thread is great

[DMC]

you pro gun advocates are extreme...no one is talking about taking away your guns...but the requirement to obtain them should be much more exhaustive...certain types should be banned from civilian use...and penalties (for those would be criminals) who would try to maintain such weapons should be so severe and draconian that not even from the grave would Bin Laden want to own one....

The reform would be comprehensive and it would work....

Unless you can show some understanding of the existing laws and some knowledge of gun classifications, and you can separate bull from fact, you really should stick to talking about your fat Mexican GF and how sexy you look in your tight Walmart shirts.

[Wild Cobra]

but I agree with you in a sense...regardless if your motivations are race related....on a macro level it's easy for people to take what you say concerning tubes tied as racist and dismiss it...

The prejudice ones are whose who assume it is race motivated on my part. Those assuming that blacks are the only ones doing this and that whites or other races don't, I would say are the racists.

Did you know that there are more poor white people benefiting off government handouts than poor black people?

This is not a race issue. Anyone who tries to make it that, is poorly educated on such matters, or indoctrinated to think anything that appears to be against blacks, is targeted against them exclusively.

Not very intelligent if you ask me.

[Koolaid_Man]

The prejudice ones are whose who assume it is race motivated on my part. Those assuming that blacks are the only ones doing this and that whites or other races don't, I would say are the racists.

Did you know that there are more poor white people benefiting off government handouts than poor black people?

This is not a race issue. Anyone who tries to make it that, is poorly educated on such matters, or indoctrinated to think anything that appears to be against blacks, is targeted against them exclusively.

Not very intelligent if you ask me.

^ This is knowledge to me that is as old as the Mona Lisa ... it's not a race issue...i know it happens in all races I've seen people of all races do it...I know a few black women that I went to school with that settled on baby making as a way to earn money...i think it's de able no matter who does it...those poor kids never had a chance to be successful in life...I think this is more about people taking advantage of a system that pretty much encourages this behavior...and they'd rather get a 200.00 a month check than find a job even if it is at Burger King...

I love my black people but this has got to stop...I'm not Pro Black I'm just for fairness across the board..some people may misinterpret my views and think I'm racist because I love white women but I'm far from racist...I remember one time when I decided to give the whole support black businesses thing a try and got burned badly...After asking for months I let this brotha cut my lawn...in fact I fired the Mexican that was cutting and hired the black guy...this guy started out ok...but then he started cutting on Fri....then he would weed eat on Sat..and finally he would come back on Sun to blow and pick-up grass clippings...on top of that he told me his truck broke down and asked if I could loan him 1200.00 for the repairs and that he would cut for free until he paid off the loan...I agreed to it as long as he finished the job in one day and not over the course of 3 days...once he paid off the loan I said good-bye and hired me another Mexican crew...one that actually was responsible...

let me get this off my chest...when people come to my house for repairs they immediately try to up-charge because of the affluent hood I live in...Blacks come with that bull most of the time....whites want to charge 1000% more because they feel en led but I usually get a good deal from Hispanics... is wild man...

[johnsmith]

The prejudice ones are whose who assume it is race motivated on my part. Those assuming that blacks are the only ones doing this and that whites or other races don't, I would say are the racists.

Did you know that there are more poor white people benefiting off government handouts than poor black people?

This is not a race issue. Anyone who tries to make it that, is poorly educated on such matters, or indoctrinated to think anything that appears to be against blacks, is targeted against them exclusively.

Not very intelligent if you ask me.

When it comes to you, wild cobra, people think its a race issue because your posting history reflects that of a racist....you racist.

[Koolaid_Man]

Unless you can show some understanding of the existing laws and some knowledge of gun classifications, and you can separate bull from fact, you really should stick to talking about your fat Mexican GF and how sexy you look in your tight Walmart shirts.

suck ya mamma ty cry-baby

[Leetonidas]

So you want to feticide them instead.

Got it.

Are you re ed dude? What the kind of red herring is that?