People I wish were at Sandy Hook last Friday includes . . .
I don't think it has anything to do with excuses. Oh noes she thinks she needs help with someone who is violent that experiences psychotic breaks! She has a liberal arts degree and tried to work freelance! Notice the husband isn't in the picture! What a selfish !
Well, I wasn't and you are a trained attorney that sucks at making germane logical arguments. No surprise that you resort to this lame tactic. You are a disgrace to your vocation. Try harder.
On one hand I feel for parents like in the op but they are the ones vaccinating and cir cising theirs sons and turning them into monsters that have to go through life plagued with health problems from the vaccines and deprived of all sexual pleasure due to missing foreskins.
I wasn't dismissing the possibility of mental illness, I was dismissing the victim card the mother was playing/the effort she was putting into dealing with the mental problems.
Just read that Adam Lanza destroyed his hard drive before going on his shooting spree. Maybe he's not mentally ill -- just one evil mofo?
I didn't make myself clear in that I wasn't referring to the lady blogger in my second paragraph. It was just a general observation of some parents at udes.
How was I playing armchair psychiatrist? I wasn't making any conjecture about diagnosing the kid.
a social worker being a "trained professional." No. Talk to a PHD. Talk to an MD. They're trained professionals who might actually have experience dealing with mental illness. Social workers deal with situations like when Joey calls Sammy a poopyhead.
Whether or not I agree with her thesis (and I do to a certain extent), the fact a social worker doesn't know how to deal with a possible mental illness doesn't support her thesis at all. Her thesis would be a lot more convincing if a real professional like a PHD or an MD told her that the only option was the kid getting arrested.
I wasn't implying anything calling it a cognitive disorder so idk why you're harping on that. If her kid really has a mental illness, she wouldn't harp on stupid like him meeting dress code and she'd make arrangements with the school so they understood. When your kid is running around the house with knives and threatening to kill himself, the color of his pants should be the least of your concerns.
Not what I'm alluding to at all. The mere presence of a dad wouldn't do anything, my point was that one of his parents is completely out of the picture and doesn't give two s about treating him. Could be his mom. Could be his dad. The fact someone who's supposed to love you more than anything else is the world is nowhere to be found undeniably doesn't help the situation. I mention the dad because in these situations it's been the dad who's missing. I'm not arguing that a masculine presence prevents mental illness.
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.
At first I thought this too, but maybe the mother thought the kid would fly off into a rage at the school administrators instead. I really, really, really, really hope neither of my kids grow up with any problems like this. I'd feel like a failure as a parent.
If you think these people sufficiently suffice as experts on dealing with a kid who threatens to murder his mother with a knife, I really don't know what to say. None of these people are even close to qualifying as mental health experts.We still don’t know what’s wrong with Michael. Autism spectrum, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant or Intermittent Explosive Disorder have all been tossed around at various meetings with probation officers and social workers and counselors and teachers and school administrators. He’s been on a slew of antipsychotic and mood altering pharmaceuticals, a Russian novel of behavioral plans. Nothing seems to work.
Ugh, that's horrible. Glad you were there to step up.
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She's made it clear she's communicated with school officials at length about the situation. I'm sure they'd understand, "So there might be days when my son refuses to wear his uniform, I'll try to keep it to a minimum," and his teachers would act accordingly. Idk why everyone wants to defend the indefensible, it's in stupid to be worrying about the color of the pants your son with an alleged severe mental heath issue is wearing.
That's absolutely true, but she also says he's been on a slew of antipsychotic and mood altering pharmaceuticals; and since none of those people are legally qualified to prescribe medications, I have to assume that her kid has been evaluated by a mental health specialist. Why she wouldn't mention them, I don't know----maybe some kind of underlying mistrust or denial? Strange.
Uhhh guys...MrsM knows her in this area of expertise.
Then maybe the author can take her son to see MrsM, because she could probably be a lot more helpful than the other people she's asked for advice.
Seems strange behavior for someone evil -- wouldn't an evil mofo want everyone to know what he thought and was doing?
Evil in the sense that he was planning what he was doing -- or so it appears.
Eh, I was going to go the long route, I don't really feel like it anymore, I am not any kind of mental health warrior that is trying to make everyone understand my problems. Suffice to say that she might be picking her battles. What I mean by that is that she is trying to master the really small things before moving on to the big things (basically like you would a small child).
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Missed that. And yes, I think the whole "color of pants" thing is probably a battle she shouldn't fight. Maybe she didn't think he'd flip out about it, or maybe she didn't want to 'give in' to his desire to wear other pants.
I can't tell if this kid needs more meds, or a good hit to the back of his head.
Well sure. There's certainly no way of knowing anything for sure now.
I don't even know if he survived there would be an explanation that would satisfy us. I just went over parts of the 2007 deposition of Mitc Johnson, one of the Jonesboro killers, and it's just a bunch of bull -- like he's still 13 and can neither explain nor take responsibility for what he did. Last I heard he was back in jail for nonviolent crimes; sounds like he got the book thrown at him considering the actual charges.
OTOH, you have a guy like John Christian who killed his teacher in class with a rifle in 1978 at the same age Johnson was when he killed -- 13. He was put under psychiatric care for two years, then went back to school and is now an attorney in Austin. I don't know if anyone has talked to him about it since, but damn -- there he is. Just made partner in his firm.
that's ing insane
You are creating so many assumptions in your head to denigrate a woman that you do not know it's pretty damn sad. She went to a social worker who you have zero idea what he qualifications are and told her son that he needed to dress appropriately for school and you turn that into the above.How was I playing armchair psychiatrist? I wasn't making any conjecture about diagnosing the kid.
Whether or not I agree with her thesis (and I do to a certain extent), the fact a social worker doesn't know how to deal with a possible mental illness doesn't support her thesis at all. Her thesis would be a lot more convincing if a real professional like a PHD or an MD told her that the only option was the kid getting arrested.
I wasn't implying anything calling it a cognitive disorder so idk why you're harping on that. If her kid really has a mental illness, she wouldn't harp on stupid like him meeting dress code and she'd make arrangements with the school so they understood. When your kid is running around the house with knives and threatening to kill himself, the color of his pants should be the least of your concerns.
Not what I'm alluding to at all. The mere presence of a dad wouldn't do anything, my point was that one of his parents is completely out of the picture and doesn't give two s about treating him. Could be his mom. Could be his dad. The fact someone who's supposed to love you more than anything else is the world is nowhere to be found undeniably doesn't help the situation. I mention the dad because in these situations it's been the dad who's missing. I'm not arguing that a masculine presence prevents mental illness.
You actively want her to be in the wrong. You recently made a cuckold? Mommy issues? This has to come from somewhere.
1) What am I assuming? Be specific.
2) Based on the advice the social worker gave her I have a pretty good idea what his/her qualifications were.
3) From what I read, she could be doing more. Idk how that qualifies as me wanting her to be wrong.
I purposely left out the even more sensationalistic details.
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