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I heard on NPR last night the conservative groups (aka Kock-suckers) have threatened every Republican with being primary-ed he votes for ANY tax increase.
WC gets real worried about SS cuts taking HIS money, but cutting OTHER (poor, old, sick, young, disable) PEOPLE'S MONEY is just wonderful.
I heard on NPR last night the conservative groups (aka Kock-suckers) have threatened every Republican with being primary-ed he votes for ANY tax increase.
Seriously.
It is not a spending cuts that applies to the debt ceiling, or deficit.
Please... Get that through your pea-brain.
I, OF COURSE, know SS is separate from govt spending and the deficit, and that SS is NOT IN CRISIS.
And OF COURSE I know that the Repugs/finance sector want SS to "fail" as soon as possible so their privatization of it will allow the Wall St crooks to steal $100Bs every year from those funds, just like they do now with 401's, etc.
You don't get it.
SS is not going to do squat for the fiscal cliff.
He can't kick all fiscal conservatives off of their leadership positions and then expect them to play ball.
Obama sat back and let Reid and Pelosi do all the work (not one budget to date from Reid) and now he thinks he can strong arm. It won't work! Dems need to accept that they will have to come up some meaningful spending cuts. Ultimately as Bob Woodward said "Obama would own the fiscal cliff economy." Bush knew that and that is why he accepted Delay's raping of American's money.obama took it up the ass from republicans the last two years now it's his turn for rape mode
You're delusional.
If we go over the fiscal cliff, Obama and Reid will propose a tax cut for everyone earning less than $250,000 and dare republicans to vote against it with the pressure on. The American people will side with dems and repugs in congress will look like terrible rich loving lunatics.
"Dems need to accept that they will have to come up some meaningful spending cuts."
If Repugs want cuts, they should list the cuts THEY want. Their game is obvious, Dems make the cuts, then Repugs blame the Dems for the blowback for making cuts.
99%. Boehner & Co have moved on from trying to find a solution and gone into pre-emptive blame-game mode.
These are the Bush tax cuts I thought. So the dems aren't giving anyone a tax cut.
I don't think that will be enough for Obama to be the only President who wasn't associated with the economy while he was President. Now if they did 2:1 Real spending cuts to tax raises, then it would be enough if the GOP still didn't agree. Whether we are going over the cliff or not, Obama is ruining his chances of getting anything done for his second term with his strong arm tactic.
"Obama is ruining his chances of getting anything done for his second term with his strong arm tactic."
The Repugs will obstruct, as they have for 4 years, ANYTHING the Dems propose, even if the Repugs proposed it themselves in the past. The power of NO far exceeds the power of YES. The Repugs are the Tyranny of the NO Minority.
This.
'em.
Boner couldn't get his tea bagger anarchists to suck down his own weak Plan B (which wasn't acceptable to Dems, either), then he will never get the tea baggers nutcases to accept ANYTHING from the Dems.
Into 2013 and over the bogus cliff.
Fiscal Cliff Doing Republicans No Favors
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...cans-no-favors
If you think anything is getting done before the last few days of the year.....
other Repug bull
Conservatives Used ‘Religious Liberty’ To Undermine Equality In Defense Bill Debate
instead of working to pass the single most important bill to our military, anti-gay Republicans have spent the year playing politics with our national security by inserting irrelevant amendments in the defense bill that are squarely aimed at rolling back the military’s strides toward LGBT equality following “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” repeal.
Earlier this year, Rep. Todd “Legitimate Rape” Akin (R-MO) succeeded in including a harmful and anti-gay “conscious clause” in the House version of the defense bill. If the Akin provision were to be included in the NDAA in its entirety, it would give service members the legal right to discriminate, harass, and intimidate LGB troops. And in doing so it would pose a danger to troops’ health and safety, it would undermine unit cohesion, and — as the White House has stated — it would be a threat to the good order and discipline necessary for military effectiveness. Luckily, the Senate version of the bill did not include this harmful provision.
As the House and Senate began to reconcile the differences between the two bills, Akin and other Republicans, including Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA) and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), have pushed to include Akin’s “license to discriminate” provision in the final version. McCain was, of course, a fierce opponent of DADT repeal. McKeon said that he’d rather see Congress fail to pass a defense bill for the first time in a half century than pass a bill that failed into include anti-gay amendments.
In the reconciled version of the Pentagon bill, Congress has sadly retained the Akin amendment, though not in its entirety. What remains is a watered down version which reaffirms the right of troops and chaplains to hold anti-gay views as long as they are not actively discriminating against LGB service members. In other words, the amended Akin provision simply reiterates existing religious liberty protections that service members and chaplains already enjoy.
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/1...e-bill-debate/
How The Pro-Gun Lobby Snuck Extra Protections For Gun Owners Into Obamacare
NRA-backed Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), the Obamacare subsection led “Protection of Second Amendment Gun Rights” makes it illegal for wellness and better-living programs to require “the disclosure or collection of any information relating to… the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or… the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.” The provision also prohibits insurers from using a patient’s gun possession status in order to determine premium rates.
Supporters might argue that gun ownership is a personal choice, and that patients should have a right to privacy from providers and insurers on such a matter. But critics say the provision stifles meaningful dialogue between providers and patients on an issue that undeniably has implications for public health and medical costs.
As University of Pennsylvania social policy professor Susan Sorenson puts it, “A lot of people buy guns every year, and it’s a health concern… To regulate what the provider can or can’t do really intrudes into the role of the health care provider, which is to ensure the health of the individual and the people who are living in that home.”
And Obamacare doesn’t extend this privacy to other costly lifestyle choices. Last month, the Obama administration issued a rule allowing insurers to consider patients’ smoking histories when setting their premium rates. Gun violence costs Americans $5.6 billion in annual medical bills, but the totals are actually closer to $100 billion per year — the same number that the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that smoking costs Americans each year in medical costs — when accounting for lost productivity.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012...on-gun-owners/
Milk Prices Likely To Soar In January After Republican Obstruction Blocked The Farm Bill In The House
House Republicans let the five-year farm bill expire at the end of September without a new law to replace the massive measure covering billions of dollars in programs, including food stamps and agriculture subsidies. The Senate passed its own bipartisan, 10-year farm bill in June, and House Democrats and farm state Republicans attempted to force the House to consider a bill to replace it. But the GOP leadership steadfastly refused to vote on it.
As a result, milk prices could jump as high as $6 to $8 per gallon after Jan. 1, when the government will revert to following antiquated 1949 regulations without a farm bill in place:
Under the current program, the government sets a minimum price to cover dairy farmers’ production costs. If the market price drops below that, the government buys dairy products from farmers to buoy prices and increase demand. Since milk prices have remained above that minimum price in recent years, dairy farmers usually do better by selling their products commercially rather than to the government.
But if 1949 rules go into effect, the government would be required to buy dairy products at around $40 per hundredweight — roughly twice the current market price — to drive up the price of milk to cover dairy producers’ cost.
“It would be bad for consumer demand in the long run,” said Chris Galen, a spokesman for the National Milk Producers Federation, which represents more than 32,000 dairy farmers.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/21/1370911/milk-prices-likely-to-soar-in-january-after-republican-obstruction-blocked-the-farm-bill-in-the-house/
lol...RSS apocalypse
TB
I personally hope we go over the cliff...I want to see America fail...I want to see white people lose their 401k's and feel what it is to live paycheck to paycheck....like most black people....it's been time for the cliff..the beauty of it all is that once we go over..Repubs will get the blame...
Ticket - Hillary Clinton / Mic e Obama - 2016 that is an unstoppable ticket
boutonsTB
This is just the appetizer... Next up is the debt ceiling 'nego ations'... I wonder if Bohner should even show up. Can't seemingly control his own guys...
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