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    Maybe I'm asking for too much. If they win with fast-paced offense and at the same time limit the opponent to low FG% or points per 100 possessions, then I would say they are true contenders.

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    When I see spurs winning with top dogs regularly I'm gonna have a new hope for the spurs

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    Spurs and Rockets are the two fastest paced teams in the NBA. (I never thought I'd type that sentence. ) When these two teams meet, it's going to be an extremely fast game. The Spurs never slow it down anymore and the Rockets are even faster ... so it's an inevitability that there will be 100+ possessions.
    That just sounds soo damn wrong.

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    I am still looking for that multipurpose shutdown guy... Bowen.

    so much can be done off of this kind of player if we can protect the rim. I guess it's unfair to ask Leonard to be able to take on Dirk, Paul, and Lebron during the last minutes of a close game. But one can hope.

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    Maybe I'm asking for too much. If they win with fast-paced offense and at the same time limit the opponent to low FG% or points per 100 possessions, then I would say they are true contenders.
    That's why that stat is used. It's pace neutral.

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    Spurs are now at 101.5 points allowed by 100 possessions and are still the 4th best defensive team in the league. this drop should be put on Spurs 3 point defense fading.

    Spurs being 2nd in pace doesn't mean that they are one of the team playing the quickest in the league. In Spurs games, there are very little offensive rebounds on both ends of the court (Spurs are the 27th offensive rebounding team and the 7th defensive rebounding team). As a result, there are few possessions extended by an offensive rebound in Spurs games which lead automatically to more possessions by game. So, even if Spurs are 2nd in Pace, they aren't a run and gun team.
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    Works out to an offensive rating of 105.4, which while subpar isn't anything to cry over.
    Yep, solid point. 105 is only a little bit worse than what would be a nice number to shoot for. Maybe only 2 baskets worse at best.

    Spurs are actually still 4th in DRating even after that game. Only 2 points behind 1st. Though they are piled together with 3 other teams. 4th-7th are really close together by just 0.3 points. So they could be more like 7th than 4th after the next game. Still, being top 8 defense AND top 8 offense at the same time is exactly what you wanna see in your team.

    Spurs are 5th in ORating and 4th in DRating right now. Looks very good considering our SF depth was destroyed for most of the season.

    Only one team is better than us in both categories. Clippers are 4th and 3rd in the respective categories. . .though if you look at their last 16 games, it's almost all against awful teams. They've been padding their numbers against the bottom of the barrel. Faced only 2 teams over .500, and those were barely over .500. 2nd weakest schedule statistically in the NBA over their last 16 games.

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    Spurs are now at 101.5 points allowed by 100 possessions and are still the 4th best defensive team in the league. this drop should be put on Spurs 3 point defense fading.

    Spurs being 2nd in pace doesn't mean that they are one of the team playing the quickest in the league. In Spurs games, there are very little offensive rebounds on both ends of the court (Spurs are the 27th offensive rebounding team and the 7th defensive rebounding team). As a result, there are few possessions extended by an offensive rebound in Spurs games which lead automatically to more possessions by game. Spurs being 2nd in Pace doesn't mean they are a run and gun team.
    Well said.

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    Bump

    5 point quarter for the Nets

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    Bump.... Best defensive quarter since 2002-2003
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    Bump.... Best defensive quarter since 1990s
    No, we only gave up 3 points at home vs. the Nuggets in November 2002... you forgot already?

    The NBA Tonight show on ESPN that night even had a picture of a brick wall that kept flashing whenever the Nuggets missed a shot in the first quarter... It was hilarious.

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    No, we only gave up 3 points at home vs. the Nuggets in November 2002... you forgot already?

    The NBA Tonight show on ESPN that night even had a picture of a brick wall that kept flashing whenever the Nuggets missed a shot in the first quarter... It was hilarious.
    I started watching the NBA in 2004-2005... Fixed

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    I started watching the NBA in 2004-2005... Fixed
    So what are you doing talking about the 1990s when you didn't start watching the NBA until the year we won our 3rd championship?

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    So what are you doing talking about the 1990s when you didn't start watching the NBA until the year we won our 3rd championship?
    Well, i heard that defenses were better back in 1990s, before the rules changes...

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    Why this year may be different: Defense
    Sub le #2: A Duncan/Splitter/Leonard Line up

    We only have a few games for a sample size, at the compe ion has been pretty dreck, but my cynicism is starting to break that there might be a pretty damnn good defensive lineup to be gotten out of this team. We'll have a couple good tests coming up, should be fun to see if they can keep it up.

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    Sub le #2: A Duncan/Splitter/Leonard Line up

    We only have a few games for a sample size, at the compe ion has been pretty dreck, but my cynicism is starting to break that there might be a pretty damnn good defensive lineup to be gotten out of this team. We'll have a couple good tests coming up, should be fun to see if they can keep it up.
    The Knicks game looks like it would be a good test. But being the 4th game in 5 nights (one of those nights being new years), I have a feeling we'll be underwhelmed.

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    The Knicks game looks like it would be a good test. But being the 4th game in 5 nights (one of those nights being new years), I have a feeling we'll be underwhelmed.
    Definitely. With the way Melo is playing, Kawhi's 1on1 D will get it's first big test post injury. And hopefully Tiago can maintain some physicality against Chandler.

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    Definitely. With the way Melo is playing, Kawhi's 1on1 D will get it's first big test post injury. And hopefully Tiago can maintain some physicality against Chandler.
    Yeah, it's pretty imperative that we beat them, because getting swept by an Eastern team like the Knicks would be a major stain on the season


    (Don't tell that to the 2003 Spurs, either).

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    The Knicks game looks like it would be a good test. But being the 4th game in 5 nights (one of those nights being new years), I have a feeling we'll be underwhelmed.
    Pop might rest the big 3 then.

    A Duncan/Splitter/Leonard starting frontcourt reminds me of the old Lakers, only with Leonard being a younger, far more sane version of Artest. Diaw plays like Odom in that he's a passing big man. Of course, Splitter is a much better passer than Bynum and has two good knees.

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    Definitely. With the way Melo is playing, Kawhi's 1on1 D will get it's first big test post injury. And hopefully Tiago can maintain some physicality against Chandler.
    I wonder if Pop will keep the big lineup even though the Knicks like to play Carmello at the 4.

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    I wonder if Pop will keep the big lineup even though the Knicks like to play Carmello at the 4.
    The Knicks give up rebounds with their small lineup. Keeping Melo out of the paint is the Spurs' best tactic, though the Knicks have two guys who like to shoot midrange.

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    Not liking the inconsistency, tbh... looks like we take 2 steps forward, then take a step back... Unfortunately, Green looks like he's stuck in the defensive progression, and Neal just really hurts any defensive scheming. Splitter can have great games, then kinda look weak out there. It's still January, but I was hoping the team would solidify what they've been doing last month.

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    The Knicks give up rebounds with their small lineup. Keeping Melo out of the paint is the Spurs' best tactic, though the Knicks have two guys who like to shoot midrange.
    Too bad Tiago is a piss poor rebounder. He can't seem to grab any rebounds. He's weak on the boards too often for my liking. He needs to rebound much better on the defensive end and go up stronger on the offensive end. Those are my main two problems with him, and he needs to improve in both of those areas by the end of the season. At times he was playing like a pansy against the Knicks.

    More physicality and more toughness is required by him.

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    Too bad Tiago is a piss poor rebounder. He can't seem to grab any rebounds. He's weak on the boards too often for my liking. He needs to rebound much better on the defensive end and go up stronger on the offensive end. Those are my main two problems with him, and he needs to improve in both of those areas by the end of the season. At times he was playing like a pansy against the Knicks.

    More physicality and more toughness is required by him.
    Agree but i thought that he was playing well against the Knicks

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    This team is not different. It is the same team as last year.

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