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Thanks for the info and the link.
I'd been watching videos of him periodically just to keep an eye on his development but I never thought the Spurs would actually sign him. I regarded it as more of a pipe dream than anything. Great job by you even starting that thread in the Think Tank. That alone is praiseworthy ... not to mention everyone else who closely tracked his progress.
My post about him during the Olympics:
He is a big ol' dude, tbh.
Well, Beverley has played in the NBA before and has long been regarded as someone who is right on the doorstep of the NBA.
Baynes, on the other hand, was a relative unknown as recently as a year or two ago. I'm trying to think of a time when an international player was bought out of a contract and signed to a multi-year contract in the NBA during the middle of the NBA season. I'm drawing a blank so far.
That Think Tank thread is really one of the most "" threads ever in hindsight.
Thanks for the info and the link.
I think if we could get one more big man, we should be set for the year.
If he's not gonna play there was no point bring him him to the spurs
If the rotation is Duncan Splitt and Diaw where is a place for the new guy? If he can help in rebounding department then good but if he is not gonna play he ain't gonna help shnit
Going to have to cut someone in order to do that - Blair is the obvious candidate. And if we cut him and tried to sign someone else, we'd have very limited money.
The most we could probably manage is the D-Leaguer signed for the rest of the year (ie, Danny Green or Derrick Byars). And if you want a project bigman I still think Hassan Whiteside would be worth a look. He has some serious warts, but hes a 7 footer with the physical attributes you want. Those just don't grow on trees on teams in places like Sioux Falls, Tulsa and Austin.
Didn't Rasho sprain his ankle, allowing Nazr to take over the spot? I hope that's not the reason Baynes cracks the rotation.
I think you are putting too high expectations in this guy. He looks good, but don't forget he's playing in a bad, bad team, 3-7 in the euroleague, so his numbers can be a bit misleading.
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He is 26. Also, me too. I really really hope he performs well and takes Blair or Bonner's spot.
Baynes reminds me of Donk in the Croc Dundee movies. LOL Big dude for sure.
Timvp have you looked at the money aspect of this signing? If we move or waive Blair, we save about .5 mil for second half of season on Blair. If my math is still good, we sign Baynes for minimum rookie scale (474,000) pro rated by half, we will save about 265000. That would place us about 1.25 M under the luxury tax and give breathing room for another trade.
Shouldn't take as long to get him here as Patty, we already know the problems and how to expedite them.
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Sounds like a good overall analysis.
and congrats to Bruno and the think tank contributors crew for nailing it
That math's a little off:Baynes reminds me of Donk in the Croc Dundee movies. LOL Big dude for sure.
Timvp have you looked at the money aspect of this signing? If we move or waive Blair, we save about .5 mil for second half of season on Blair. If my math is still good, we sign Baynes for minimum rookie scale (474,000) pro rated by half, we will save about 265000. That would place us about 1.25 M under the luxury tax and give breathing room for another trade.
Shouldn't take as long to get him here as Patty, we already know the problems and how to expedite them.
We don't know how much Baynes will get this year, but it will probably be the remainder of the MLE, as the deal was initially reported to be for more than two years. That doesn't get prorated yet until tomorrow, so he will probably get more than half of that (my guess is around 400k) by the time he signs.
Waiving Blair doesn't help the Spurs do anything, as his contract is guaranteed. Unless Blair wants a buyout that amounts to only giving him a little more money this year and releasing him, he'll cost $1.1 Million regardless. Trading him actually opens up his full salary for cap and tax purposes, provided the Spurs don't have to take salary back in the deal.
All in all, the Spurs have very little financial breathing room unless they find a taker for Blair.
Waiving Blair saves nothing, his contract is guaranteed. While we don't know the details of Baynes' contract, it's likely that he will be signed with the remainder of the MLE or BAE and his salary for this season will be around 500K.Baynes reminds me of Donk in the Croc Dundee movies. LOL Big dude for sure.
Timvp have you looked at the money aspect of this signing? If we move or waive Blair, we save about .5 mil for second half of season on Blair. If my math is still good, we sign Baynes for minimum rookie scale (474,000) pro rated by half, we will save about 265000. That would place us about 1.25 M under the luxury tax and give breathing room for another trade.
Shouldn't take as long to get him here as Patty, we already know the problems and how to expedite them.
Edit: Chinook beat me.
Edit: Chinook beat me.
It's been happening all day. Just happened again downstairs in the Kings thread. Must be a little off my game.
I don't. I'm with Mel, in that they'll get Splitter re-signed. He's already shown once that he wasn't about getting every last penny and nothing in his time with the Spurs has suggested he's anything but Spurs material. Meaning, he'll more than likely understand and accept the internal cap that's at work here and that is that he, like the big three (and others), will have to take less. Although they actually have the flexibility to pay him something like $10M a season, but he can't make equal to Duncan and more than Ginobili.
I agree. But at the very least, they have a legit third center that they can go to in certain match-ups. I still think they need to explore upgrading the fourth big spot, but I will concede that I don't think they will at this point.10. Do I think he's going to crack the rotation this season? Actually, no. Barring injury, I think Duncan/Splitter/Diaw with Jackson sprinkled in will be the bigman rotation. The Spurs always basically used a three-man bigman rotation during the championship season. The Duncan/Splitter/Diaw trio with Jackson/Leonard soaking up extra minutes will probably be what we see for the duration of the season and the playoffs.
The difference with the championship seasons was that Duncan could basically play unlimited minutes back then. Playing three when none play major minutes is a challenge and in certain match-ups in the playoffs, they'll be hard pressed to get away with Jackson/Leonard playing some PF.
Yeah, but Mohammed was a proven, experienced NBA player and it was clear as day the moment he was acquired that he should have been their starting center.12. Is there time for Baynes to make an impression and earn a spot in the rotation? Certainly. , Nazr Mohammed didn't even really start playing until April of 2005 and suddenly he was the starter on the championship team. Being that it's January, Baynes has plenty of time to win over the coaching staff.
I think the fact that he's really bulky is going to help, especially with the PnR as MI21 mentioned. That's an important asset for a Spurs big.
You had no way to know that Bruno was joking, but it shows you haven't been around here for long
Gotta echo the WOW sentiment. Was not expecting anything like this to come out of the blue for the usually conservative (with signings and moves) Spurs.
Like people have said, with Splitter moved into the starting lineup, we have no back up center. With Baynes having the Spurs connection via Brett Brown and the Oz national team, that could help accelerate his adaption to the team. Judging by the numbers he's put up this year in Euroleague play, he should have no problem getting garbage minutes at most a few games into his tenure here. And if he's able to more or less seamlessly translate his rebounding ability in those garbage minutes, without gifting points to the opposing team via poor defensive play or bad fouls, I could see him steadily working his way into the rotation by the season's end. His compe ion is Bonner and Blair after all. So possibly by the end of the season we could see Diaw and Baynes being the being the 4 and 5, respectively, that comes off the bench at the end of the first to spell Duncan and Splitter. Which would mean none of these funky small line ups that Pop has to use during the first part of 2nd quarters due to the lack of a back up C on the bench.
Also, I'm surprised (and somewhat disappointed :P ) that I'm the first to make this reference about his last name. Gotta say I love it for the potential for some fun meme posts in the future. Like for instance Baynes seems to really like to dunk over people when he gets the chance. The first time he does it in the NBA, I'm calling dibs on something like, "Dwight Howard, you have posed for my poster, now you can die!" lol
good idea with the Bane photo, I'll try to edit my avatar and add in the Bane mask to Baynes, lolGotta echo the WOW sentiment. Was not expecting anything like this to come out of the blue for the usually conservative (with signings and moves) Spurs.
Like people have said, with Splitter moved into the starting lineup, we have no back up center. With Baynes having the Spurs connection via Brett Brown and the Oz national team, that could help accelerate his adaption to the team. Judging by the numbers he's put up this year in Euroleague play, he should have no problem getting garbage minutes at most a few games into his tenure here. And if he's able to more or less seamlessly translate his rebounding ability in those garbage minutes, without gifting points to the opposing team via poor defensive play or bad fouls, I could see him steadily working his way into the rotation by the season's end. His compe ion is Bonner and Blair after all. So possibly by the end of the season we could see Diaw and Baynes being the being the 4 and 5, respectively, that comes off the bench at the end of the first to spell Duncan and Splitter. Which would mean none of these funky small line ups that Pop has to use during the first part of 2nd quarters due to the lack of a back up C on the bench.
Also, I'm surprised (and somewhat disappointed :P ) that I'm the first to make this reference about his last name. Gotta say I love it for the potential for some fun meme posts in the future. Like for instance Baynes seems to really like to dunk over people when he gets the chance. The first time he does it in the NBA, I'm calling dibs on something like, "Dwight Howard, you have posed for my poster, now you can die!" lol
I could also see Baynes getting some burn on b2b or 4 games in 5 nights when Duncan or Tiago looks bushed. Would be nice to have a guy to come in and actually play the 5, instead of just whoever's playing better between Bonner and Diaw.
What stood out for me watching the boomers was the masssive improvment in game from Baynes of 2010 WC's to 2012 olympics. Reading his euro stint points to Baynes being a quick learner and still growing as a player.
I was wondering who was going to be the first to have a Baynes avatar. lol(or did someone else beat you to it?).
cool man, I don't have time to mess with photoshop, but there's definitely some potential there. "Blair, your marginalization is complete. Now you can die!" lol
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