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I think part of the reason kd didn't go off more in the finals was cause lebron was guarding him. he can be physical and get away with it knowing he won't get called.
LBJ might not get as much superstar FTs this season, but boy how wonderful defender he is with such low foul counts while playing such agressive defense on perimeter.
I think part of the reason kd didn't go off more in the finals was cause lebron was guarding him. he can be physical and get away with it knowing he won't get called.
The superstars get the favourable treatment from the refs cause they think it will make it more exciting and more people will watch, but seriously how many people DON'T watch the nba anymore cause it is such a circus.
LOL u like the Clips, but they get superstar calls for Blake and.CP3 ...
OKC averages 1 more FT per game than Charlotte. You guys are blowing this up big time.
Nowhere near as much as what Food Stamps Westbrick and Welfare Queen Durant get, tbh...
Hey I like the clips too so I don't care that they do ... But Blake gets away with more offensive foul calls than anyone. He uses his off arm to launch himself and to ground shot blockers ...no one calls it cuz the highlights are spectacular
FTs shot alone doesn't tell the story though. OKC are an excellent jump shooting team so a number of the dubious calls they get are and-1s, therefore just 1 free throw not 2.
Also the Clips get hacked so thier FT attempts number is distorted.
Oh yeah? Westbrook is 7th in the league in "at rim"'FG attempts. Durant is way up there too. Plain and simple- these guys get a first step on you and you have no choice but to be super aggressive. They're fouled a lot I assure you.
You're doing it wrong. The far better metric is to look at FT/FGA (free throw attempts per field goal attempt). Click here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2013.html and scroll down to Miscellaneous Stats, then click on FT/FGA under Offensive Four Factors to sort by that category. I did so for each of the last ten seasons.
For this season, OC averages .289 FTA for every FGA. 2nd place is the Lakers with .243, 3rd place is Charlotte at .232. League average is .205. The difference between 1st and 2nd (OC and LAL) is bigger than the difference between 2nd and 20th (LAL and BOS).
The difference between OC's FT/FGA and the league average this year (.084) is by far the highest in the last ten years. 2nd place is OC 2010-2011 (OC: .299, average .229, difference .070). 3rd is DEN 2009-2010 (DEN: .290, average .228, difference .062). 4th is OC 2011-2012 (OC: .269, average .208, difference .061).
OC's FT/FGA this season of .289 isn't historically high: top teams (in FT/FGA rank, not record) frequently approach or exceed .300 looking back a ways. The difference is that the league average for FT/FGA has been between .228 and .248 in every post-Jordan season except last season (.208) and this season (.205). Fouls are being called at the lowest rate in 15 years, but OC keeps getting calls like it's 2006 (average FT/FGA .248).
You can also look at FT/FGA differential, or the difference between Offensive FT/FGA and Defensive FT/FGA. OC this year has a differential of .091 (offense .289, defense .198). I only looked at the top two teams for Offensive FT/FGA and Defensive FT/FGA over the last ten seasons, but among those teams, that .091 differential is by far the highest. Second place is OC 2010-2011 with .070 (offense .299, defense .228).
For comparison, LAC this year is actually negative in FT/FGA differential (offense .212, defense .232, differential -.020).
For you conspiracy theorists out there, the numbers also suggest that if the Lakers get preferential treatment, it's by getting away with fouls on defense (low defensive FT/FGA) as opposed to getting iffy calls on offense.
Pretty funny that the only people trying to deny the ref advantage are Thunderfan and Lakerfan, fans of the two most ref-coddled teams in NBA history, tbh.... the rest of us know what's going on, tbh....
One more TBH please. I can't tell if you're being honest or not. People continually whining about the refs and refuse to give credit where credit is due. Again - RW and KD are in the top tier in the league in FG attempts at the rim. What's that tell you guys? They're getting to the rim. When you've got 2 guys like that getting a good number of attempts at the rim, they're getting fouled, period. What's the alternative? You gonna let them dunk on you all game?Pretty funny that the only people trying to deny the ref advantage are Thunderfan and Lakerfan, fans of the two most ref-coddled teams in NBA history, tbh.... the rest of us know what's going on, tbh....
I'd say Wade/Lebron are superior to Westbrook/Durant at getting to the rim, and thier FT attempts aren't anywhere near close
Those 2 combos attempt nearly identical FGs at the rim this season, in total. OKC's combo is attempting 2.5 more FT's per game - basically ONE TRIP to the foul line. ONE more whistle from the ref per game. On top of that, Lebron is way more selective than Durant and assists the ball much more. He passes much better and I'd almost guarantee way more of Lebron's at rim attempts are uncontested than KD's are. A defender is much more likely to get up in KD's skinny business than Lebron's. Most defenders want no part of contesting a Lebron dunk. Its just a guaranteed and 1. He's too strong.
Nothing new here
So...players are smart enough not to foul the best player in the league but not the second? Not seeing the logic. Also I like that the stats above show how inconsistent the reffing is for OKC and you don't comment on it.
I like how thunder ignores this post!
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 01-14-2013 at 01:44 PM.
Considering KD is mostly a jump shooter it is ridiculous how many free throws this guy gets
Ok, you've got your stats. Now translate them. I'll do it for you - OKC shoot 6 more FT's per game than the league average. That's 3 whistles. When you have two guys in KD and RW who play the way they do, that is completely reasonable. I don't disagree with the stats, but there's always context around stats. You can't compare OKC's rate to the league average and then not put things into context just to support your argument. On top of that, the lower the FGA #, the higher this rate is going to be. When you're fouled on a shot attempt, it's not a shot attempt for statistical purposes. Naturally, if KD and RW are going to the rim and getting hacked much more than your average NBA player, the FGA # is going to be lower and it will skew the rate even more. You've got, arguably, the most unguardable player in basketball and, arguably, the most unguardable point guard in basketball, both of which are near tops in the league in FGAs at the rim, and you want to about 3 more trips to the line per game over the average NBA team?? News flash - KD and Westbrook are far from average.
No sir. Both KD and Westbrook attempt a fairly high # of shots "at rim".
Could you be a little more honest please? I'll need about 5 more acronyms referencing honesty before I'll believe this.
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