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    I guarantee if you had a choice between watching a league with nothing but white players vs a league with just black players the public will be watching that black league. Wouldn't even be close. When you can watch 4.35 guys vs 4.55 guys.....hmmm?

    The huge difference is the size with speed thing, there are no big fast white guys.
    Actually, I'd like to see skill above all. That's why I watch the NFL, and why I don't watch college, or the Arena league.

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    Actually, I'd like to see skill above all. That's why I watch the NFL, and why I don't watch college, or the Arena league.
    I want to see the best footballers in the world, how many of them are white at the skilled positions?

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    I want to see the best footballers in the world, how many of them are white at the skilled positions?
    Considering that QB is probably the biggest "skill" position in football, quite a few of them. Offensive line, as you've noted, is also a "skill" position (especially left tackle), and many of those are white too.

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    Actually yes there is...WR Devon Wylie for KC ran a 4.37
    Former Fresno Stater who I thought was black....Devon Wylie. Yep, he's pretty fast. So there is....one.

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    Considering that QB is probably the biggest "skill" position in football, quite a few of them. Offensive line, as you've noted, is also a "skill" position (especially left tackle), and many of those are white too.
    Come on man, are you going to pass up on watching....

    Adrian Peterson
    Calvin Johnson
    Chris Johnson
    RGIII
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Andre Johnson
    Trindon Holliday
    Devin Hester
    Jacoby Jones
    Vernon Davis
    Arian Foster
    Ray Rice
    Frank Gore
    Colin Kaepernick
    Russell Wilson
    Steven Jackson
    Alfred Morris
    Matt Forte
    Ray Lewis
    Doug Martin
    Marshawn Lynch
    Michael Crabtree
    Patrick Willis
    Navarro Bowman
    Randy Moss
    Cam Newton
    Steve Smith
    Dez Bryant
    Brandon Marshall

    ...to go watch...who?

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    Hm... let's see which QBs wouldn't be in your league:

    Tom Brady
    Peyton Manning
    Eli Manning
    Drew Brees
    Aaron Rodgers
    Ben Roethlisberger

    So, pretty much the best QBs in the game right now. Considering that the NFL can't even find 32 good qbs RIGHT NOW for each team, I'm pretty sure a "black only" league would have a whole ton of ty QBs. The only QBs you listed are Russell Wilson, Kap and RGIII, so before this year this list would've sucked horribly. A league where the best starting QB is Michael Vick sounds pretty horrible. I'd much rather see good QB play than good WR or RB play. So would most everyone else. Know why? Given the choice between a Hall of Fame QB and Hall of Fame any-other-position, only an idiot would pick someone other than a QB.

    Oh and you forgot to mention Josh Freeman. Guess he's not exciting enough, right? Or maybe he plays too "white" for you?

    Not to mention you'd also be leaving out arguably the league's best defender in JJ Watt, arguably one of it's best offensive players in Rob Gronkowski, and some other notable names such as Urlacher, Clay Matthews, and Wes Welker.

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    Hm... let's see which QBs wouldn't be in your league:

    Tom Brady
    Peyton Manning
    Eli Manning
    Drew Brees
    Aaron Rodgers
    Ben Roethlisberger

    So, pretty much the best QBs in the game right now. Considering that the NFL can't even find 32 good qbs RIGHT NOW for each team, I'm pretty sure a "black only" league would have a whole ton of ty QBs. The only QBs you listed are Russell Wilson, Kap and RGIII, so before this year this list would've sucked horribly. A league where the best starting QB is Michael Vick sounds pretty horrible. I'd much rather see good QB play than good WR or RB play. So would most everyone else. Know why? Given the choice between a Hall of Fame QB and Hall of Fame any-other-position, only an idiot would pick someone other than a QB.

    Oh and you forgot to mention Josh Freeman. Guess he's not exciting enough, right? Or maybe he plays too "white" for you?

    Not to mention you'd also be leaving out arguably the league's best defender in JJ Watt, arguably one of it's best offensive players in Rob Gronkowski, and some other notable names such as Urlacher, Clay Matthews, and Wes Welker.
    Well let's see....

    Both leagues will have sixteen teams.

    Do you really think there are that many great white players? Go ahead give me 32 white cornerbacks. Give me 16 white running backs. 32 white receivers. Go ahead prove your point.

    Right off the bat you are sunk, there are no white cornerbacks, there aren't 16 white backs in the league. Now what?

    You'd have go back 50 years to find 16 white NFL backs of any merit.
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    Yes, I believe a league filled with Peyton Mannings would draw a huge audience.

    it's a quarterbacks league. 7 of the top 10 jersey sales are QB jerseys.

    6 of those 7 are white.

    You're stupid.
    Outside of QB( there are a few good black ones) the best players are black. The % of black NFL players as compared to the general population says it all.

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    Well let's see....

    Both leagues will have sixteen teams.

    Do you really think there are that many great white players? Go ahead give me 32 white cornerbacks. Give me 16 white running backs. 32 white receivers. Go ahead prove your point.

    Right off the bat you are sunk, there are no white cornerbacks, there aren't 16 white backs in the league. Now what?

    You'd have go back 50 years to find 16 white NFL backs of any merit.
    Go ahead and give me 16 black QBs first, since that's the most important position after all.

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    Griffin III, Newton, Kaepernick, Wilson are gonna be top 10 QBs next year, if they aren't already.

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    also consider Geno Smith is projected to be the #1 QB taken and Teddy Bridgewater is projected to be the #1 QB taken in 2014, or top 3.

    DoK so salty as .

    but but but whites control the worlds wealth!!!

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    here's how I'd rate the top 12 QBs

    1. Aaron Rodgers
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Drew Brees
    4. Tom Brady
    5. Ben Roethlisberger
    6. Matt Ryan
    7. Eli Manning
    8. Colin Kaepernick
    9. Robert Griffin III
    10. Russell Wilson
    11. Cam Newton
    12. Joe Flacco

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    here's how I'd rate the top 12 QBs

    1. Aaron Rodgers
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Drew Brees
    4. Tom Brady
    5. Ben Roethlisberger
    6. Matt Ryan
    7. Eli Manning
    8. Colin Kaepernick
    9. Robert Griffin III
    10. Russell Wilson
    11. Cam Newton
    12. Joe Flacco
    How's about...

    1.Aaron Rodgers
    2.Tom Brady
    3.Drew Brees
    4.Peyton Manning
    5.Big Ben
    6.Eli Manning
    7.Matt Ryan
    8.Joe Flacco
    9.Russell Wilson
    10.RGIII
    11.Colin Kaepernick
    12.Cam Newton

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    also consider Geno Smith is projected to be the #1 QB taken and Teddy Bridgewater is projected to be the #1 QB taken in 2014, or top 3.

    DoK so salty as .

    but but but whites control the worlds wealth!!!
    Still talking about me

    The lithium must not be working

    Your bookie controlling all of your wealth

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    Outside of QB( there are a few good black ones) the best players are black. The % of black NFL players as compared to the general population says it all.
    What exactly does it say to you

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    What exactly does it say to you
    Blacks are better NFL players because they are represented at a much higher % in the NFL than they are in the general population .

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    Blacks are better NFL players because they are represented at a much higher % in the NFL than they are in the general population .
    That's neat.

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    Blacks are better NFL players because they are represented at a much higher % in the NFL than they are in the general population .
    So then, using this logic, whites are better QBs right?

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    me welching on a bet when niners are the clear favorites. I already consider it won, just thinking of double or nothing nba related offers

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    Griffin III, Newton, Kaepernick, Wilson are gonna be top 10 QBs next year, if they aren't already.
    Griffin now has had 2 major knee surgeries.

    Newton was supposed to be top 10 this year and failed.

    Kaepernick could be.

    With Wilson I still see a great team rather than a great QB.

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    Has anyone answered the question yet? We're on 70 posts and this has turned into another black QB thread when OP was just asking why black players can't keep their composure. Avante? Ghazi? This is something that's always puzzled white people.

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    Has anyone answered the question yet? We're on 70 posts and this has turned into another black QB thread when OP was just asking why black players can't keep their composure. Avante? Ghazi? This is something that's always puzzled white people.
    Because it was stupid. Everybody, black, white, Mexican pile on the football to get the most coverage over the fumble. If you aren't fighting for the ball then get the off the field. As for the fighting, I saw white Packer players getting into scuffles. The high percentage of black players makes it look disproportionate.
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    Griffin now has had 2 major knee surgeries.

    Newton was supposed to be top 10 this year and failed.

    Kaepernick could be.

    With Wilson I still see a great team rather than a great QB.
    Newton probably wasn't top 10 this year, but by no means was a failure. Panthers were a very solid team, although their record wasn't, and Newton finished strong.

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    Has anyone answered the question yet? We're on 70 posts and this has turned into another black QB thread when OP was just asking why black players can't keep their composure. Avante? Ghazi? This is something that's always puzzled white people.
    From my experiences as a sprinter/footballer/having a lot of black friends. Blacks are more passionate about things and easier aroused. More apt to great excited easier. Whites more calculating and plotting. Blacks simple react.

    I have no doubts we've all thought.....all those stupid ass penalties, but we have to put up with it because they can run. Which is very true.

    I saw a HS game (TV) earlier in the season it was a private school white team vs Long Beach Poly. Poly mostly black, that white team made few mistakes while Poly made a ton, but in the end the speed/athlete difference did prevail.

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    that white team made few mistakes while Poly made a ton, but in the end the speed/athlete difference did prevail.
    You should've seen the 5A TX State Championship, Katy vs Cedar Hill

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