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    Damn, that was a great trade by Memphis. WTF is Cleveland thinking?

    Speights sucks; he has the worst defensive instincts of any bigman in the league this side of Drew Gooden. He's decent offensively but Memphis didn't need him since Darrell Arthur is closing in on 100%.

    Wayne Ellington is nothing special. He's basically a decent 11th or 12th man. A guy who only puts points on the board who scores less than 13 points per 40 minutes isn't worth much more than the minimum. I don't even know why the Grizzlies played him so much since he really doesn't help in any area.

    Josh Selby is only in the league because he's a summer league phenom. In actual NBA games, he has sucked. Besides, the Grizzlies have a similar prospect in Tony Wroten who is better anyways.

    In return for that threesome of suckage, the Grizzlies get a first round lottery pick? Are you kidding me? On top of that, John Leuer had a pretty damn good rookie season. And his skillset (a bigman who can shoot from the perimeter) fits in pretty darn well. , Leuer might be better than Speights, Ellington or Selby.





    Three bad players they didn't need plus shedding $6M in contracts for a future lottery pick and a decent prospect? Hollinger just destroyed the Cavs in his first trade.
    uh the Grizz are GIVING AWAY the pick. Leuer is soft. Jesus Christ hahahaha how asinine was this

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    uh the Grizz are GIVING AWAY the pick. Leuer is soft. Jesus Christ hahahaha how asinine was this
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    I don't see much upside to Leuer, probably a fringe player. The Griz do need a solid fourth big man, hopefully they didn't find one in this trade.
    They really don't need another big man, both ZBO & Gasol are capalbe of playing 36 minutes in the post season,They have Arthur to pair with either when one goes to the bench. Speights was a luxury that would have pushed them into the luxury tax (pun not intended)

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    Per Reddit, a Cavs fan:
    Give him a break, Anyone who roots for the Browns, Cavs, & Indians are used to being losers. Why should the Cavs care about keeping a team from the tax?

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    Dan Gilbert-"I personally guarantee we will win a championship before the Memphis Grizzles."

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    The Cavs should appear on that show, you know..."Hoarders". Half the league called, they'd like their draft picks back.

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    They really don't need another big man, both ZBO & Gasol are capalbe of playing 36 minutes in the post season,They have Arthur to pair with either when one goes to the bench. Speights was a luxury that would have pushed them into the luxury tax (pun not intended)
    I agree with you on 3 being enough. The only issue is if one of them gets hurt and misses a few games then they are stuck with using Haddadi(sp).

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    13 minutes a game for Haddadi , shouldn't completely ruin them if that were to happen. They also could steal some minutes and go small with Gay at the 4.

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    Dan Gilbert-"I personally guarantee we will win a championship before the Memphis Grizzles."

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    Maybe when pigs fly or when Lebron comes home, or whichever comes first?

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    Maybe when pigs fly or when Lebron comes home, or whichever comes first?
    After next season, if you believe ESPN...

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    Speighs is a scrub who would always kill us with daggers, so it's a good trade for Spurs.
    When did he kill us with daggers? He wasn't even on the 2011 team.

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    I think he meant Darrell Arthur.

    Wasn't Wayne Ellington also part of the 2009 UNC championship squad? Is Chris Grant trying to get them all (he already had Danny Green, and he also got Tyler Zeller in the draft).

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    Ellington was good. Not good for them with him traded.

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    I agree that this deal has virtually no impact on their level for this year but it doesn't change that what Memphis has done this past few months is horrible.

    In July, they conscientiously made moves that put them over the tax. 6 months later they had to give up a possible lottery pick to unfold these signing.

    Even if the trade in itself isn't that bad, the combination of it with the July signings are horrible. Had Memphis been a little more cautious in July, they would be right now below the tax and still have that lottery pick.
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    why did they got rid of speights, i thought he was decent....as in hitting big shots, call them flukes whatever you want, his still better then turd towers

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    I guess this explains why the brought Hollinger in. The Grizzlies are going to have to go ultra-cheap on their role players if they expect to keep their core and remain under the tax. When you factor in salary increases and whatnot, the Grizzlies should be back in the tax next season. They probably won't be able to re-sign Allen as it is. If Hollinger's method works, the Memphis should be able to find a lot of talent cheaply.

    I still think they should've just traded Gay away, though.

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