this.
lebron is almost as much a facilitator as a scorer.
he's unselfish, one of the reasons he'll be the GOAT in my eyes at the end of his career. he doesn't have that 100% me-first at ude of kobe or even MJ.
Not exactly truth. His FG% was 4-5% higher than Arenas, who benefitted from more open lanes to get to the line more.And Isiah is probably the worst example to prove your point. Dude averaged 75% at the line, which is ty for a point guard. And his best scoring average? He was attempting 19 FGA to average 20 points a game. That's horrible.
yet another example of why koolaid is an idiot
Sorry dude. Scoring wise, Arenas s on Thomas including efficiency (TS% and PER). Now if were talking about the overall ball player? Then yeah its Zeke but save that for another thread.
WTF???? Im saying there is no way in to prove a scorer from era is better than a scorer from another. Where am I wrong.....please let me know. If you can.
Truth tbqh.
Same list except I'd exchange Melo for LeBron. Although not having as complete as an array of moves as Melo/Durant, he can score efficiently and consistently whenever he has to and no player has the power and speed to defend him. When needed, he's been a 30+PPG scorer for multiple seasons. And this year he's averaging a career low in FGA and still is stulling up 26PPG/8/7 in 55% FG and 40% 3PT.
For me, LeBron being unstoppable in what he does offensively puts him there, but I see the argument both ways.
See scoring averages of TMac, AI, Kobe and Carter before and after the rule changes, and they have sustained it until they aged. Check it and tell us how rules do not affect scorers much.
Just a tip, siding with S&H is almost always wrong, you agreed with him, so you are likely to be wrong.Ok..........prove it then.You cant!!!! I just go by what they did when they played over their ENTIRE career. Gervin was basically unstoppable as were the others I mentioned during their era. This will always be a tough debate, so I just go with the numbers. Thats why there is a never ending debate over the Dream Team vs 2012's team. Who the z knowz.
To validate my point............ I played city league (over 30) a group of old white men.....all in their late 40's and 50's won the league going away. Against teams of younger men that were dunking, cross overs, played college, you name it. So NONE of that this era vs that era means nothing. Noone knows what someones scoring average would have been in a different time period. Go with how they played and scored WHEN they played and scored.
PER is not a pure scoring statistic, nor does it reflect on efficiency.
Have you gotten any thing right in your 288 posts?
he was on my 2nd not first and though I think AI was a greater scorer who knows what Isiah could of done with AI's FGA attempts kid could score and his handles were even better than Iverson's tbh ...just not as Flashy or "Sweet" looking ...
I think that 'Nique is probably one of the most overlooked stars out there. He really only did one thing right and that was score and dude was great at it. Should have been on the greatest 50 of all time. Can't have Shaquille on that list after four or five years. That's crazy.
How are ppl justifying Melo over Durant tbh
hey Sherlockat no point in time was Robinson the "face of the league" or considered a top 10 player by the media and "expected" to be the greatest ever...if you have all that riding on your shoulders...you ing better have at least 1 if not multiple 60 point games...
fact is unless he proves it I'm inclined to believe he can't do it...when Kobe outscored the Mavs by himself 62 to 61 he was very efficient and similarly when he scored 81 I doubt Lebron can score like that period...he may be bigger and stronger than Kobe but he's not the scorer that Kobe is..end of story don't make me prove it with the scoring numbers
Don't know if he's been mentioned, i doubt it, but Cedric Ceballos' scoring ability is really underrated. Not saying he belongs on these lists, but his per minute scoring is pretty comparable to most of these guys.
Robinson was widely considered as one of the top two players in the league from 94 and 95. Face of the league means what exactly? Marketed the most? How is that relevant? Duncan was never that either. Kareem neither because the league sucked so bad back in the days that there was no face. Neither was Hakeem.hey Sherlock
fact is unless he proves it I'm inclined to believe he can't do it...when Kobe outscored the Mavs by himself 62 to 61 he was very efficient and similarly when he scored 81 I doubt Lebron can score like that period...he may be bigger and stronger than Kobe but he's not the scorer that Kobe is..end of story don't make me prove it with the scoring numbers
What if Lebron couldn't score 60? Neither could russell, magic, Hakeem, or I think KAJ. What's your point?
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Give me Reggie Miller over Lebron
Tbh your basketball takes are just horribl, the sad part is you're serious.
lebomb with the bads
having 5 elite scorers in your lineup doesn't guarantee you good scoring outputs imho. you need a good passer to dish out assists for your scorers. if it's a simple ac ulation of players' stats then how could you deny shaq a spot?
Kareem and Hakeem didn't create their own shot? You are dumber by the minute. You hit your head in the morning and again at noon or something?^
Give me Reggie Miller over Lebron
And why 60? What's wrong with 50. Where did that a cutoff came from?
Because ...Tbh your basketball takes are just horribl, the sad part is you're serious.
Wilt should be on the first team, Kareem on the second. It's interesting to compare them because they had very different approaches. Wilt had so many moves, you never knew what to expect from him, but he always scored when he wanted to. Kareem, by contrast, was utterly predictable - almost all of his points came from the sky hook - but even if you knew what was coming, you still couldn't stop it.
...except Wilt, who blocked the sky hook more than anyone else.
1st team
G - Michael Jordan
G - George Gervin
F - Dominique Wilkins
F - Elgin Baylor
C - Bob Pet
2nd team
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Jerry West
F - Adrian Dantley
F - Kevin Durant
C - Shaquille O'Neal
3rd team
G - David Thompson
G - Allen Iverson
F - Carmelo Anthony
F - Dirk Nowitzki
C - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
That's off the top of my head so I might have forgotten someone obvious. One comment: George Gervin has to be first team. The only scorer who could compare in NBA history is Jordan. It helped that Gervin didn't play any defense ... but, really, he was a scoring machine.
Wilt basically had one go-to move, an 8 foot turnaround bank shot. Everything else he got because he was simply so much taller and more athletic than everyone else. And pretty much anyone could hit that turnaround banker if you are 6+ inches taller than everyone defending you. He didn't have nearly as many moves as Hakeem. And go back and watch how pathetic the defense was back then. Very little physical contact, almost no attempt to contest anything, no one boxed out for rebounds, and everyone was skinnier than toothpicks.
Great player, but he was simply ahead of his time. No way in does he get those insane numbers playing against the athletes of today.
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