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    Sucks that Prince has been traded

    They should have allowed him to end his career in Detroit

    He is great with young players
    +1 tbh

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    Woj is about as reliable of a source as you can get for these types of things. Thanks, DPG21920

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    Oh I've followed the Raptors for years and you remember right. I completely agree with what you. The problem with Bosh is that, well, he's smart and pretty good but a little bit delusional. Has been for a while.

    He's clearly not on the level of guys like Lebron, Dirk, Duncan, Manu, etc. I actually don't think he should get in but if he keeps playing with Lebron I can see him getting in (unfortunately) but not as a first ballot HOF talent. Standards for the hall are slipping imo.
    I admire your belief that the basketball HOF has standards. The HOF is kind a joke, to me at least. Feels like they allow 4 all-stars (multi all stars) and a couple of no name high school coaches a year.

    There are all stars players ,who are exactly that, all-stars. Just because someone is 5X + doesn't guarantee a spot. If you have to question rather they deserve to get in then its probably a no. imo

    Just a mini rant, it annoys me.

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    Their best playoff run was without Rudy Gay. If they can flip Randolph for a scorer on a rookie deal and an expiring, it's a win.

    The Grizzlies, as cons uted, had topped out. They were sliding into the second tier of playoff teams in the West. They were done as contenders.
    Agree with the ceiling part. they may not finish in the top half of the west and could slide to 6th with Denver heating up and GSW dominating +500 compe ion.

    I was wandering if you had someone in mind with the scorer on rookie deal, Tyreke Evans maybe?

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    Memphis already beat the Spurs without Gay.
    They weren't gonna beat us in the post season with or without Gay.

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    Colangelo is just all over the place, not sure if they have some sort of a plan at all.

    For Detroit, it's an OK trade, it makes sense if they try to make a late push for the playoffs. They free up some money in the summer too.

    I like this trade for Memphis. Prince is just like Shane Battier from 2011. I don't think it'd hurt their offense, alright it's not going to be great but the more they run through their bigs and slow the pace down the better. I see it as similar to the previosly discussed Jared Dudley for Gay trade. Ed Davis is very impressive too. I'm not sure if him and Arthur would click together off the bench, but if they do, that's as good a reserve big pairing as you'd get. Impressed with Hollinger.

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    as if the Grizz weren't offensively challenged enough. they are 28th in pace and 21st in offensive rating. now they dump gay off. its also hard to believe that at this point in their careers prince is a better defender than gay

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    Colangelo is just all over the place, not sure if they have some sort of a plan at all.
    His plan is to collect every bad MAX NBA contract given to a B- to B+ player

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    Would have been better for the Spurs had they unloaded Darrell Arthur instead of Gay tbh.

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    as if the Grizz weren't offensively challenged enough. they are 28th in pace and 21st in offensive rating. now they dump gay off. its also hard to believe that at this point in their careers prince is a better defender than gay
    this.
    gay was there best scorer.
    none of the 3 they traded for can get buckets like gay.
    not worried here imo....

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    The Grizz got the best offer that they could get for Rudy Gay. I didn't think the Grizzlies were going to get anything of value for him considering that he's making max money and having his worst season since his rookie season and the only thing that he's above average at he's not elite at.

    Tayshaun is a respectable replacement for Rudy. Davis is a good young player, but with Z-Bo, Gasol, and Arthur still on the team he'll probably just get around 14 minutes a game. Not sure if Austin Daye will get playing time on the Grizzlies that's not garbage time, but whatever.

    All and all don't have a problem with the trade. I mean what's the worst that can happen. The Grizzlies being one of the lowest scoring teams in the NBA?

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    Gay Prince Cauldron

    there's a Tolkien story there somewhere

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    Incredibly ty take from Kendrick Prkins...

    @ Rudy being up their with KD, Kobe, LeBron, and Melo.

    He's not even up there with Russell Westbrook. Heck Prime Pau Gasol is better than Rudy.

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    Perkins should know bad trades. He was part of a bad trade.

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    This fan wasnt aware of the trade

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    Really good move for memphis
    once pondexter gets back their bench will be lethal

    they just need to get rid of randolph now and find a way to make gasol take 15+ shots min a game
    arthur is an elite pick and roll defender and a very good mid range shooter
    ed davis can get offensive boards like randolph and hes also extremely mobile
    run offense primarily through m.gasol postups/high screen and roll and surround the team with defnders and spot up shooters

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    Does this mean that we'll put Kawhi on Conley?

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    This fan wasnt aware of the trade

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    Among 151 guys w/ 1000+ minutes, Ed Davis is 12th most valuable contract by PER/dollars this season. Rudy Gay is 148th of 151.

    https://twitter.com/tomhaberstroh

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    I think this makes Memphis a tougher match up for the Spurs. Gay just wasn't the defensive presence that Battier was when Memphis beat SA in the playoffs, plus he pulled touches away from Randolph & Gasol, Memphis' true strengths on offense. Prince is closer to Battier - needs less touches offensively, plays good defense. I don't always agree with Hollinger, but this move is one I agree with. Gay should have been moved before now TBH.

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    I imagine the Raptors are hoping Gay is more efficient when he doesn't have to share with dominant post players. It's possible, I supposed, but I don't see any way Derozan and Gay will work together unless one or both becomes a team-oriented player.

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    Really good move for memphis
    once pondexter gets back their bench will be lethal

    they just need to get rid of randolph now and find a way to make gasol take 15+ shots min a game
    arthur is an elite pick and roll defender and a very good mid range shooter
    ed davis can get offensive boards like randolph and hes also extremely mobile
    run offense primarily through m.gasol postups/high screen and roll and surround the team with defnders and spot up shooters
    Ok, it would be dumb to get rid of Z-Bo.

    Overall a strange trade for during the season. Seems better suited to an off-season trade where you give Coach Hollins time to build a team.

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    I think randolph is overrated
    hes the weaklink defensively and if he has length put on him hes not that good in the post
    hes elite at rebounding but nothing else really
    some teams out there would be willing to give up some really good pieces for him
    i know houston was linked in trade talks for randolph

    if it wasnt for bonner guarding him in the 2011 playoffs then everyone would think randolph is a garbage stat padder like they have for his entire career

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    I think this makes Memphis a tougher match up for the Spurs. Gay just wasn't the defensive presence that Battier was when Memphis beat SA in the playoffs, plus he pulled touches away from Randolph & Gasol, Memphis' true strengths on offense. Prince is closer to Battier - needs less touches offensively, plays good defense. I don't always agree with Hollinger, but this move is one I agree with. Gay should have been moved before now TBH.
    Really the Grizzlies need outside shooters to surround Gasol and Randolph yet they have been one of the worst 3pt shooting teams. If they can add 3pt shooting and defense it really helps them.

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    Gay with 10 pts at halftime off the bench: Raptors up 46-30 on Clippers:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2013020128

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