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    According to what I read, he was legally detained. Therefore, he was not "kidnapped" which is a qualifier to become extraordinary rendition.
    this is more hairsplitting. Arar was handed over to Syria to be tortured on the flimsiest pretext.

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    this is more hairsplitting. Arar was handed over to Syria to be tortured on the flimsiest pretext.
    He was a Syrian citizen, they wanted him. What I don't know is, what was Canada's role in it? They acknowledge fault, but I haven't seen what it is.

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    He was a Syrian citizen, they wanted him.
    we detained Maher Arar at Syria's request? Bull .

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    we detained Maher Arar at Syria's request? Bull .
    I guess you're right. I did some reasearch, and it seems things are different than I thought.

    The Royal Canadian mounted Police are the ones who informed the FBI of his meeting with a known Al Quada agent. probably coincidence. He had dual citizenship with Canada, but Canada wouldn't take him...

    He was therefore deported to Syria as a suspected agent of Al Queda.

    It was their up.
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    having failed to show any treaties supporting extraordinary rendition, WC mounts a weak semantic challenge with a hair-splitting flourish.
    To add, I would not call extraordinary rendition legal, unless it is explicitly part of a treaty.

    I am saying the articles BS of making the claim of so many extraordinary renditions.

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    Another thread of WC demonstrating he has the intuition of a toilet seat. Keep on guessing; keeping on being on.

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    I am saying the articles BS of making the claim of so many extraordinary renditions.
    you have no apparent basis for doing so, but you're welcome to it.

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    So Chumpy...

    I think you will agree that rendition is a type of extradition. So by your definition, when does extradition become rendition, and when does rendition become extraordinary rendition?
    I most certainly do not agree that extraordinary rendition is a type of extradition. I'll thank you to not project your complete misunderstanding of terms onto others.

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    The rationale for the naked photography, described by knowledgeable sources, was to insulate the CIA from legal or political ramifications stemming from their brutal treatment in the hands of its partner intelligence agencies.


    Stripping the victims of clothing was considered necessary to do ent their physical condition while in CIA custody, distinguishing them at that point from what they would subsequently experience in foreign custody – despite the public diplomatic assurances against torture that the US demonstrably collected from countries with a record of torturing detainees.
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...aked-detainees

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    ... more to the mountains of evidence that USA is no better, no less corrupt, no less law-breaker, not EXCEPTIONAL, than any 3rd rate hole countries.

    The Biblical "Shining City on a Hill" is just another myth, a lie Americans tell themselves.

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