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    When are you going to realize this isn't a debate between bush and obama? Ok, lets say Bush should have been impeached? That doesn't change anything for Obama tbh

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    Pentagon releases Benghazi timeline, defends response
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    (Reuters) - Pentagon leaders knew of the September 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi an hour after it began, but were unable to mobilize reinforcements based in Europe in time to prevent the death of the U.S. ambassador, according to a timeline released on Friday.

    Senior defence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, rejected criticism accusing the Pentagon of failing to move quickly to send reinforcements to relieve the consulate or using armed aerial drones to fire on the attackers.

    "The Department of Defense acted quickly after learning of the incidents unfolding in Benghazi," said one official, adding that Marines, special forces and other military assets had either been employed or put in motion during the attack.

    "Unfortunately, no alternative or additional aircraft options were available within a timeline to be effective," the official added
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    Eastern Libya is a primary recruiting ground for Jihadi terrorists being drawn into the U.S. and Saudi/GCC regime change operation in Syria. The unfortunate death of the Ambassador can be viewed as yet another instance of the sort of blowback that occurred on a larger scale 11 years earlier when US intelligence allowed al Qaeda cell members -- who had fought in Bosnia and Kosovo in operations coordinated by U.S. intelligence -- into the U.S. and failed to stop them before they carried the killings of thousands of Americans. Our continued involvement in the bloody religious war in Syria, and our apparent failure to learn from repeated fatal mistakes in cooperating with terrorists in covert wars, virtually assures that this will not be the last such instance of blowback.

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    LMAO Monkeyboy14

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    Thats also a little different, first of all the president doesn't make the final choice to go to war. Also its war, people die, not saying thats good, or that bush was a good president. But thats what comes with war. These people were under attack in a WAR ZONE, and the Obama administration felt in would be ok to send only 3 marines with our ambassador, then ignore every request to get help...
    Wait. You're saying Bush should get a pass because it was war, but Barry should because he didn't react in a 'war zone'? War is war. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander.

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    I'm with EVAY... Hillary needed to take much more heat than she did

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    Because the administration had 8 hours to send help, and they just didn't. They even had warning this might happen and again, did nothing.
    Who says they had 8 hours?

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    I'm with EVAY... Hillary needed to take much more heat than she did
    Why is it on Hillary? What was her job in this?

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    Why is it on Hillary? What was her job in this?
    She's was the Secretary of State? You know, the one that's in charge of running and supervising any US Government installation overseas?

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    I'm trying to get a line on what people think should have been done that wasn't. The most glaring mistake I see was having the Ambassador stay at the consulate overnight if the situation in the country was that bad.

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    Drones could've been there in 45 mins...

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    This administration is much better at preventing terrorist attacks than our last administration that allowed a certain domestic terrorist attack on a certain two towers was
    i'd not call it a domestic terror attack though like it was committed by an american citizen like Timothy McVeigh. and i don't think obama administration has done a damn thing to make the country safer, they just want to take your guns away and leave you more prone to those real domestic terrorist attacks tbh.

    9/11 attack was so well planned that it's hardly to believe it was first initiated while bush was in office. bush had been president for only a few months when the attack took place. the intelligence agency should've acted more quickly in response to the attacks but it wasn't the president's fault tbh

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    Drones could've been there in 45 mins...
    Drones from where?

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    Wait. You're saying Bush should get a pass because it was war, but Barry should because he didn't react in a 'war zone'? War is war. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander.
    Im not saying bush should get a pass, im saying the situation is different. And yes Obama should because its a war zone. Thats my point, sending our ambassador to a war zone with only 3 marines is pretty pathetic.

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    What war was being fought in Libya at the time?

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    I guess the most believable action would have been what the CIA requested: a gunship to fly in from Italy. I don't know how scramble-ready those are on any given night, but I do know that it would have required the approval of the Libyan government, something I don't think the marine force initially received. Would have done nothing for the ambassador or his aide.

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    I'm being facetious...

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    Im not saying bush should get a pass, im saying the situation is different. And yes Obama should because its a war zone. Thats my point, sending our ambassador to a war zone with only 3 marines is pretty pathetic.
    An ambassador that's on a war zone should be pretty aware of the risks involved. I'm not saying there was no wrongdoing here, but the risk was always there. At the end of the day, supervision of civilian US government installations overseas (including embassies) is the responsibility of the Secretary of State. That's really where the buck stops.

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    I'm being facetious...
    I had to wonder since they did divert an unarmed drone from elsewhere in Libya that night.

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    I had to wonder since they did divert an unarmed drone from elsewhere in Libya that night.
    It was probably to kill children...

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    It was probably to kill children...
    It was supposed to deploy polio contrails.

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    Because bush didn't ignore the situation. The bush administration didn't have any warning about the attack either. The Obama administration had Emails from the ambassador before-hand asking for more security because he didn't feel save. They had 8 hours to respond to the attack while it was going on, aaaand ignored it. Obama literally WENT TO BED instead of going to the war room. Im sorry if you are tired Mr. prez, but its YOUR JOB.


    Just when I think ST can't possibly get another loony...

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    Just when I think ST can't possibly get another loony...
    I already addressed this, try again.

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    Signature worthy...really..
    Why?

    There was no intel of a specific attack on a specific day.

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    Why is it on Hillary? What was her job in this?
    The Secretary of State has a direct responsibility of embassies.

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    I'm being facetious...
    Maybe so, but I'll bet ships in the Mediterranean have them.

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