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falcons also played in a poor division so the defensive numbers are inflated.
their defense is average at best.
Ryan vs. Flacco is just as much about Ryan as it is Flacco. His first 3 career playoff games were complete abortions, and he choked away a significant lead in both the Seattle game and the San Fran game. A complete collapse by Seattle's defense the last 30 seconds of the game is the only reason why Matt Ryan isn't still considered a huge choker by the media.
Atlant'a defense was also 5th in the NFL in points allowed this season. It wasn't an "elite" defense, but it was easily a top 10 defense.
falcons also played in a poor division so the defensive numbers are inflated.
their defense is average at best.
Julio > Boldin
Roddy > Torrey Smith
Tony Gonzalez > Pitta and son combined
It's not even a close call.
I've seen a lot of Ryan being a Saints fan and I don't think he's very good at all. He has alot of help with the WRs and Gonzales at TE and the Falcons defense isn't that bad at all and has been better than their offense in the regular season the past two seasons. Ryan can be really inconsistent during the game, mostly because he's so erratic in the pocket at times. He gets alot of help from his WRs and TE as they constantly bail him out. He really hasn't gotten better the last few seasons either. He's a good QB like Romo, but not very good and Romo's defense has been alot worse than what the Falcons have. The Ravens defense hasn't been that great since the 2010 season.
They only play 6 games in their division and two of those were against the Saints offense. Four out of the remaining 12 games were against divisional opponents.
i'd take bolden in the playoffs over those roddy but not juilo.
and like i said, bolden saved flacco's ass and made some huge catches in the playoffs.
he is just a flat out beast and i admire that. which is why i hold him in such high regard.
ravens better find some way to keep him.
Flacco is elite. He was a missed field goal from the super bowl or something like that the year before and beat Brady AND Manning on the road. Elite .
7/10 trolljob, trill
he was a dropped Lee Evans pass away from winning and a missed FG away from OT. The Lee Evans touchdown was a perfectly thrown ball Evans had no excuses for dropping.
It's certainly not a pass Roddy White or Julio Jones would drop.
you don't think he's that good at all?
well you do have brees as your qb so you have the bar set high as far what you expect from your qb.
i think ryan and flacco are very similar.
if ryan wins a superbowl then we'd be arguing whether or not he is elite when he isn't.
like i said earlier, the elite tag is clouding peoples judgements. they give a person that le and they have to defend it.
Jones "saved Flacco's ass" not Boldin. Flacco's throws to Boldin were planned to be high so that only he could go up and get them. Some of the passes on which Boldin made those epic catches would have even been thrown to another player. In Jones' case, Flacco just threw the ball up there, and Jones managed to keep track of it when defenders couldn't.
Boldin's much better than people give him credit for. Some Ravens fans think he wouldn't even make (let alone start on) most teams in the league. He's definitely a great player, but Baltimore doesn't have the offense that Atlanta had, and their defense was worse in most situations.
preciate it fam.7/10 trolljob, trill
That makes absolutely no sense when he's had 1,000+ yard seasons with Josh McCown/Matt Leinart throwing him the ball
yeah and if my aunt had a she'd be my uncle.
oh i think jones should have been mvp but thats another thread.
those passes to bolden could have gone to other players but they didn't for a reason.
bolden is that dude.
he is a bully on the field and strong as an ox.
when he caught that td pass in the back of the endzone and pointed and laughed at the db on the ground i stood up and applauded.
you guys need bolden.
i'd trade miles austin for him.
Why do you keep spelling Boldin's name wrong? If you wanna glorify someone and use him as part of your agenda spell his name right.
That's why I don't really talk to other Ravens fans. They think every one of Green Bay's wideouts would be a number one on 25 other teams.That makes absolutely no sense when he's had 1,000+ yard seasons with Josh McCown/Matt Leinart throwing him the ball
No, he's the black guy. Quit being racist.
doing it on purpose
I agree that Boldin is important. I'm just saying don't assume Flacco was throwing bad passes that Q happened to catch. Those were designed routes that the Ravens have been working on since their first playoff game against New England.
Green Bay's group of wideouts last year were so overrated
The only person making that comparison is you, and everyone destroyed it.
Flacco was 25th in total QBR. 12th in passer rating. 14th in passing yards. 19th in completion percentage. 16th in yards per game. 22 TDs and 10 INTs. This is like when Dirk won the le in 2011 and people suddenly completely forgot his chokejobs and playoff failures. Flacco absolutely carried the Ravens to the Super Bowl, he had an elite postseason...but part of being an elite QB is consistency. Up until his last four games noone other than himself thought of him as an elite QB. If he keeps doing this then he deserves to be up there, but its dumb to hand him that distinction already imo.
He was great last postseason as well. The Ravens struggled this regular season, but he went HAM in their 2 biggest/most important games (NE, NYG). Last year in the regular season he beat every good team he faced (and outplayed his counterpart). Dude just wins. After the greatest postseason in NFL history, he's effectively shut everybody up. If he has another 22 and 10 season next year people won't be satisfied. Nature of the beast--people love stat s
Exactly, the dude lacks consistency. Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers who are widely considered the Top 4 bring it all season...alot of QBs can have good-great stretches but the best do it on a way more consistent basis. Thats not stat whoring, thats what separates them from everyone else. Flacco has the tools to be up there but he needs play at this years postseason level alot more often than he has in the past.
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