lol wut? You can't see the difference between currency valuation and real estate appraisals?
That's not what distribution means, in this instance. What effect do the highest salaries have on the entire population?
I think you'll find that Hagge/Jeffries and the other freaks skew the out of the mean because of a smaller data population. Nobody is weighting these salaries to produce a true mean, DOK, and it's ridiculous to toss out a figure as an average when it's not even a true mean.
I can't see why the complexities of real estate appraisal means that free housing for pastors should automatically not count as compensation at all when it has obvious value.
Really? Should be easy to calculate that obvious value then. What should we use? Local Tax Appraisals? Ummm maybe a real estate appraisal. That would probably work. Maybe it's time to start a new business.
Yes, and this is why I threw out median salary.
Methinks the "Compensation handbook for Church Staff" which is published to show pastors are modest wouldn't just use a raw mean that's skewed by outliers. When figures like median are readily available (the figure I used) that's what they'd use.
That sounds a lot more reasonable than automatically valuing free housing at $0 of compensation.
I'm not even championing their data. I presented it only as a contrast to salary.com.
The point being made was, the median you posted is useless.
I'm sure there's a method. But they don't bother to describe it.
You posted something that had a compensation figure pretty close to the salary.com figure. That somehow contrasted salary.com, sorry salary.com thinks free housing is compensation.
I'm not sure a median figure is meaningful in any approach to this.
No. The range was quite a bit broader. The cite I posted unveiled a data set that salary.com didn't identify. It's also a huge potential well for the Haggee/Jeffries population. In that subset, it's a skew engine.
The IRS's method is making it tax exempt and not treating is as compensation, which is why I have a strong opinion on this. The signing bonus I'm getting from the bank I signed an offer with so when I move to a new city I can afford to rent a place and furnish it shouldn't count as compensation if the housing pastors get doesn't.
Agreed, totally.
Because not being religious or buying into the thing would threaten the existance of the religion itself. The priests and organized church that set the doctrine more than a millennium ago knew this.
Part and parcel of most religious belief systems, is that they save their worst penalties for those who don't believe or doubt the dogma.
how do you know so much about what motivates people to be charitable?
Income Distribution in the United States in 1992
50% mark at roughly $22,000 in 1992.$1.00 in 1992 had the same buying power as $1.66 in 2013.
Annual inflation over this period was 2.46%.
http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm
1.66*22,000= $36,520
To most people "infinitesimally small percentage" is generally less than 50%, FYI.
I would agree. Church income should be taxed, like any other business. The Germans have it right.
Well Germany isn't filled with people over-obsessed with religion and sentimental bull , so it's no surprise their tax system actually taxes income.
No one makes the connection, but it's also why Germany and other secular countries don't believe in faith-based economics (what Republicans refer call "supply side economics"), aka the belief that cutting the amount of money rich people (who Republicans refer to as "job creators") have to pay to the government will somehow increase the amount of government revenue (because that makes completely logical sense). Religion is the root of why Americans believe so many illogical things compared to other 1st world countries.
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Maybe unhappy people turn to religion for comfort.
As for the OP whose question I believe was sincere (although I can not see it), the basic premise is that all people make mistakes and all people need the forgiveness of God. If you do not think that God exists, then that makes no sense to you. If you think that people can be "good enough" and other people are simply "too bad," then that makes no sense to you. If you worry about your own shortcomings and focus on your own need for grace, then the rest does not really concern you. That is up to God to determine the sincerity of one's repentance.
well. they apparently turn to religion but still are great clients of BigPharma pushers.
I was referencing the sub population of pastors > avg american salary. That is an incredibly small data set, Capt. Graph.Income Distribution in the United States in 1992
50% mark at roughly $22,000 in 1992.
1.66*22,000= $36,520
To most people "infinitesimally small percentage" is generally less than 50%, FYI.
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Something about which we do agree.
Who did it pay it to? Is there a law that even God has to abide by? Why pay himself so you don't have to? Go ahead, make some father, son analogy so I can shoot it down.
I don't know why I should feel appreciative because somebody allegedly sacrificed himself unnecessarily to solve a problem that he caused.
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