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They're not getting this hypothetical dominant big man via trade either cause they have no assets.
So, Ben Wallace didnt dominate at defense? Wasnt he a the big factor against Shaq? and Prince on Kobe? Once again. We dont have that force in the paint, and we not going to get it any other way than by the via of the trade....
They're not getting this hypothetical dominant big man via trade either cause they have no assets.
Now we talking, these 2 players, played in different era, now, every player is quicker and more technical. Now the game requires for somebody to dominate the paint, via rebounding and shot blocking, getting players in foul trouble.
Well, we do have assets, they just want him to retire a Spur. Tony Parkers value is never going to be as high as this years, and you can believe that....
Bottom line is, if we cant make stops, then we cant win a championship, everything falls back on the defense side and for a team to reach that it has to to start at the paint...
When teams throw their best elite perimeter defender with length at parker there should be other weaker defenders to exploit at sf or sg... this is where green and leonard have to get more agressive offensively to compensate, and therein lies a problem.. these guys are still young &inexperienced.
You should have use quote
Im still learning brotha, thanks...
This was for me ? Should I response to that ?
Yes Sir, if want, you can respond to anything....
So, we're doomed.Q: When was the last time an NBA team won a championship without a dominant Big an a PG as their top scorer?
I love my Spurs and I only wish another ring for our core players, but we really need to answer this question. Tim still playing at a high level, but his not dominant like he was, and is understandable, we all know that his the best big we got. We cannot win another ring with a PG as our best scorer. We still have a chance to win it all, but thats the same as the lotto chances. We need to trade for a dominant big, we are not going to get him in the draft, and we aint getting him by free agency, so the only option is the trade. Once again, I love the my Spurs, but they need to trade who ever we need to trade to get that one dominant big..........
Thanks for the info. I'm going to keep watching, anyway.
Exactly. No defense can take everything away from a good offense. If a team overloads their defense to stop Tony, other players must step up. It's still a 5 on 5 game (referees notwithstanding).
I don't disagree with that.
"Piston killed 2 option Lakers with their defense"
'04 Lakers didn't have Malone who basically slapped Tim off the low post out to the 3 pt line.
Lets not even try to say it was the 07 Spurs! We all know it was Duncan's team and the Offense still went through Tim. What a joke.
Tony Parker. 2007. If you are talking about leading scorer of the finals. He was a little behind Duncan during season.
He asked about PG being leading scorer. Parker was in the finals.
Yes, TP did lead us in scoring at the 2007 finals, but Tim Duncan got us there. The Spurs only took aventage of the Cavs weakness. Without TD we couldnt make it to the finals.
Some of you guys keep forgetting that the biggest reason we got the 4 championships is because of a big that could dominate the game, and his name is Tim Duncan, aka Timmy....
You are welcome. I be watching too.
By the way. Whats your opinion on this thread???
I though that was clear, but perhaps not. Let's go back to the OP.
Now, before we go any further, would you please list those players who meet your definition of a dominant big? This must be a very a short list as it will only contain players that can make the Spurs into legit contenders in your eyes, while trading away the considerable assets necessary to convince another team to give up such a player. Once you've identified these players, we can go on.Q: When was the last time an NBA team won a championship without a dominant Big an a PG as their top scorer?
I love my Spurs and I only wish another ring for our core players, but we really need to answer this question. Tim still playing at a high level, but his not dominant like he was, and is understandable, we all know that his the best big we got. We cannot win another ring with a PG as our best scorer. We still have a chance to win it all, but thats the same as the lotto chances. We need to trade for a dominant big, we are not going to get him in the draft, and we aint getting him by free agency, so the only option is the trade. Once again, I love the my Spurs, but they need to trade who ever we need to trade to get that one dominant big..........
I will say this: The teams that have a "dominant big" are not so hot right now. The game has changed. Yes, defense is a huge part of where the Spurs need to focus in order to realize a fifth ring, but I don't think that a "dominant big" is necessarily the only solution. If we had a Bruce Bowen-type player, this changes your defense. He would harrass, he will funnel, he will be infectious. The "dominant big" and this fellow will compliment each other well. Tim Duncan is still dominant enough on the defensive end to get it done if our perimeter players will channel a Bruce Bowen for the playoffs. Even at almost three blocks a game for Timmy, while sensational and great for oohs and aahs, his defense is not infectious. The defense of Bruce was underrated even by Spurs fans. When a guy can trap another guy single-handedly, other players see it and want to emulate. This is what's needed. Not a "dominant big".
The problem with your logic is that Duncan is still arguably the most dominant big. There is no dominant big. At least not one you would mention in the same sentence as prime Shaq/Duncan... Not even a prime Dirk!Q: When was the last time an NBA team won a championship without a dominant Big an a PG as their top scorer?
I love my Spurs and I only wish another ring for our core players, but we really need to answer this question. Tim still playing at a high level, but his not dominant like he was, and is understandable, we all know that his the best big we got. We cannot win another ring with a PG as our best scorer. We still have a chance to win it all, but thats the same as the lotto chances. We need to trade for a dominant big, we are not going to get him in the draft, and we aint getting him by free agency, so the only option is the trade. Once again, I love the my Spurs, but they need to trade who ever we need to trade to get that one dominant big..........
It looks like the only option is to trade for Lebron... Good luck with that.
Kawhi is almost there. He's on the court longer, his perimeter defense is stout plus the length to his game gives the Spurs an added dimension that Bruce didn't provide, STEALS, lots of them.Tim Duncan is still dominant enough on the defensive end to get it done if our perimeter players will channel a Bruce Bowen for the playoffs. Even at almost three blocks a game for Timmy, while sensational and great for oohs and aahs, his defense is not infectious. The defense of Bruce was underrated even by Spurs fans. When a guy can trap another guy single-handedly, other players see it and want to emulate. This is what's needed. Not a "dominant big".
But thinking about the original question, Point Guards without dominant bigs that have led their teams in scoring while winning a le:
1973 Knicks PG Walt Frazier led the team in scoring at 21 pppg, and for bigs they had DeBusscherre, Jerry Lucas, and Willis Reed as their Bigs. They were dominant by committee but DeBusscherre had the best stats at 16 and 10.
1975 Celtics PG Jojo White and F-C Dave Cowens scored 19 per. White averaged 5.4 Assists while Cowens got 16 rebounds per.
1979 Sonics PG Gus Williams and F-C Jack Sikma. Williams scored 19 and 4 assists per and Sikma scored 15 and averaged 12 rebounds per but still they required guys like Lonnie Shelton and Paul Silas to help with the dirty work.
1989 Pistons PG Isaiah Thomas and C Bill Laimbeer Thomas scored 18 and 8 assists per and Laimbeer scored 13 and 10 rebounds per. Let's add Rodman and Salley.
1990 Pistons PG Isaiah Thomas and C Bill Laimbeer Thomas scored 18 and 9 assists per and Laimbeer scored 12 and 10 rebounds per. Let's add Rodman and Salley.
We can debate the 2004 Pistons but the question is limiting. It still takes a TEAM.
The Spurs are capable in this years NBA. They are top 5 in both offense and defense ratings. They have a tougher perimeter with Splitter and Duncan, they have strong wing play and strong point play with Parker and Ginobili. They are well-coached and as long as they can get execute on the offense out to the 3point line and the NBA doesn't let the ref go star crazy for FT's... then I feel the Spurs have all that Pop needs. His Swiss Army Knife has all the tools and he's ready to start cutting up the NBA. Hack, Slash Pop...Wolverine style.
Exactly
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