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    Why is it bull ? That's how it went down.
    That's not what you said.

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    Well all know the narrative. What we do not have is proof.

    As for legally versus illegal, it is impossible to track illegal guns. It is hard to even track legal guns because of registration resistance. However the data we do have is that the more guns equals more gun crime.
    Why would you need to track legal guns? The police can use the barrels signature to track down a gun.

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    That's not what you said.
    Please explain

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    Please explain
    I think you should explain why you are lying.

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    Why would you need to track legal guns? The police can use the barrels signature to track down a gun.
    Thanks CSI. Why not ask why you need to run background checks? It aids in preventing guns from falling into the wrong hands through anonymous circulation. An ancillary is that it helps law enforcement to enforce the law and study how guns effect society.

    Don't make registration public record and that solves the newspaper 'issue.'

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    Thanks CSI Miami. Why not ask why you need to run background checks? It aids in preventing guns from falling into the wrong hands through anonymous circulation. An ancillary is that it helps law enforcement to enforce the law and study how guns effect society.

    Don't make registration public record and that solves the newspaper 'issue.'
    fixed

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    I think you should explain why you are lying.
    About what?

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    Whether you're lying or not is irrelevant tbh. 40% of gun sales happen without a background check.

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    Whether you're lying or not is irrelevant tbh. 40% of gun sales happen without a background check.
    It is relevant. I want to know where he thinks I lied. And I'm all for background checks.

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    It is relevant. I want to know where he thinks I lied. And I'm all for background checks.
    It may be relevant to your Internet ego, but it's completely irrelevant to the larger policy debate. All that matters is that 40% of guns purchased without a background check. Btw, I'm Glad you agree with additional infringements on the right to keep and bear arms. Seems like rational policy.

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    All that matters is that 40% of guns purchased without a background check.
    Where'd you get 40% from?


    http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fa...55e7_blog.html

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    I'll revise. 14 to 22 percent of guns are purchased without a background check. I'm glad we're on the same page that is still a problem.

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    I'll revise. 14 to 22 percent of guns are purchased without a background check. I'm glad we're on the same page that is still a problem.
    You'll revise, but Obama won't, that's the problem. I live in CA, I have to jump through plenty of hoops to own what I own, background checks make sense to me, doesn't mean it will work though. Here in CA they can't even round up the 40,000 or so guns that are owned by known felons/crazies.

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    Why must you continue the facade?

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    You're not too good at this.

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    care to explain this one a bit more? Specifically concerning me.
    I met the winner of the auction at a local gun store and did the transfer there with their FFL, so yes there was a background check.
    Why is it bull ? That's how it went down.
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    I half agree with Biden. If your purpose home defense, then either a shotgun or pistol is the way to go. Not a semiautomatic rifle. Still, all legal weapons do have a time and place for usage.
    I tend to disagree with you here, when speaking of women. As you saw in the video, 12 gauge shotguns can beat the out of women who don't know how to handle them, and some higher caliber pistols could also be hard for a woman to handle. My girlfriend has trouble just racking the slide on one of my handguns, not much use if she can't chamber it right? An AR15 equipped with a flashlight and a red dot sight is a perfect tool for self defense, especially if you live in a state where you can shorten the barrel significantly. Highly accurate with little recoil.

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    But there are some pistols that are easy for women to handle

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    But there are some pistols that are easy for women to handle
    Sure there are, and the small caliber that makes them so easy to handle also makes them less effective.

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    Sure there are, and the small caliber that makes them so easy to handle also makes them less effective.
    if they can kill, how much more effective do you need them to be?

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    if they can kill, how much more effective do you need them to be?
    A pellet gun could kill under the right cir stances, do I really need to explain to you the benefits of larger calibers and the effects of adrenaline on accuracy? I know you dont like guns and are afraid of them, i get it, but drop your butthurt routine for a minute and stop trying to argue everything I post, you sound stupid.

    Here's a vid I thought you'd enjoy concerning cops "protecting" you. Make sure to take notes so you know how to defend yourself.

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    Interview with Amanda Collins, rape victim who CO Dem told gun wouldn't have helped

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    A pellet gun could kill under the right cir stances, do I really need to explain to you the benefits of larger calibers and the effects of adrenaline on accuracy? I know you dont like guns and are afraid of them, i get it, but drop your butthurt routine for a minute and stop trying to argue everything I post, you sound stupid.

    Here's a vid I thought you'd enjoy concerning cops "protecting" you. Make sure to take notes so you know how to defend yourself.
    My next question is "how accurate do you need to be in the confines of a house?"

    My next questions after that are "why do you turn into a huge defensive pussy when i ask you a question about your OP?" and "do i really need to explain the difference between making an argument and asking a question?"

    My thinking is that you don't have to be very accurate at all in short distances, but I'm willing to let you explain why you need to before i call bull .

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    And no thanks on watching an 8 minute YouTube

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