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    any revolution ever fought was via militia, hence, citizens in arms uniting
    Any militia formed and used under the au es of the US cons ution fought for the US government.

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    Any militia formed and used under the au es of the US cons ution fought for the US government.
    there was no US government when the colonists' militia revolted against the British govt, which at the time, was the governing body over the american colonies

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    there was no US government when the colonists' militia revolted against the British govt, which at the time, was the governing body over the american colonies
    That doesn't change the cons ution or the militias formed and used under that cons ution.

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    That doesn't change the cons ution or the militias formed and used under that cons ution.
    bottom line is militia, armed citizens, are allowed in order to give citizens the right to protect themselves. this includes from an oppressive government. it was given as a cons utional right to ensure future governments dont oppress us like king george's did

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    bottom line is militia, armed citizens, are allowed in order to give citizens the right to protect themselves. this includes from an oppressive government. it was given as a cons utional right to ensure future governments dont oppress us like king george's did
    The cons ution says nothing of the sort.

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    The cons ution says nothing of the sort.
    why else would you need a militia in addition to military/national guard?

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    why else would you need a militia in addition to military/national guard?
    There was no national guard when the cons ution was written.

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    There was no national guard when the cons ution was written.
    It's pretty obvious that he has a half ed sense of history and and a completely inane interpretation of social contract in coming up with his position.

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    It's ridiculously easy to look up the history of militia use in the US -- and if anyone bothered to read, you know, the cons ution, they would know explicitly how the militia was to be used. No one has to guess any of this.

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    The US Senate, following Obama's lead, continues to wage war on southern conservatives:

    The gun control bill headed for the Senate floor bears little resemblance to the far-reaching proposal President Obama unveiled after the deadly shooting in Newtown, Conn.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has decided the federal assault weapons ban will not be a part of the base bill, and warned Tuesday an expansion of background checks to cover private sales might not make the cut either.

    Instead, a bipartisan measure cracking down on straw purchasing and illegal trafficking of firearms will serve as the foundation of firearms legislation.

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    The cons ution says nothing of the sort.
    The Federalist Papers, which explain the intent behind the Cons ution, back up the point that the militia is simply armed citizens....

    "Little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped"
    - Federalist #29

    "...the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation."
    - Federalist #46

    Many Founding Fathers agreed at the time, btw...

    "The great object is, that every man be armed... Every one who is able may have a gun."
    - Patrick Henry

    "I ask, Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
    - George Mason

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    Former Halliburton Subsidiary Received $39.5 Billion In Iraq-Related Contracts Over The Past Decade

    The accounting of the financial cost of the nearly decade-long Iraq War will go on for years, but a recent analysis has shed light on the companies that made money off the war by providing support services as the privatization of what were former U.S. military operations rose to unprecedented levels.

    Private or publicly listed firms received at least $138 billion of U.S. taxpayer money for government contracts for services that included providing private security, building infrastructure and feeding the troops.

    Ten contractors received 52 percent of the funds, according to an analysis by the Financial Times that was published Tuesday.

    The No. 1 recipient?

    Houston-based energy-focused engineering and construction firm KBR, Inc. (NYSE:KBR), which was spun off from its parent, oilfield services provider Halliburton Co. (NYSE:HAL), in 2007.

    The company was given $39.5 billion in Iraq-related contracts over the past decade, with many of the deals given without any bidding from competing firms, such as a $568-million contract renewal in 2010 to provide housing, meals, water and bathroom services to soldiers, a deal that led to a Justice Department lawsuit over alleged kickbacks, as reported by Bloomberg.

    Who were Nos. 2 and 3?

    Agility Logistics (KSE:AGLTY) of Kuwait and the state-owned Kuwait Petroleum Corp. Together, these firms garnered $13.5 billion of U.S. contracts.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/winner-most-i...#ixzz2O6ZmAxaL

    I'm sure head is totally suprised by his "liberate Iraq" windfall for Halliburton.

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    The Federalist Papers, which explain the intent behind the Cons ution, back up the point that the militia is simply armed citizens....

    "Little more can reasonably be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped"
    - Federalist #29

    "...the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation."
    - Federalist #46

    Many Founding Fathers agreed at the time, btw...

    "The great object is, that every man be armed... Every one who is able may have a gun."
    - Patrick Henry

    "I ask, Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
    - George Mason
    Whether they explain the intent of the cons ution entirely is debatable -- the cons ution itself states what militias are and how they are to be used -- but none of those quotes don't really support what spurraider21 was saying at any rate.

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    Solyndra good... Halliburton bad...

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    Thanks for my daily dose of Vitamin I.
    TB always great contribution on topic, never stalking me.

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    I'm not stalking you, I'm mocking you, re . Stop posting stupid .

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    It's ridiculously easy to look up the history of militia use in the US -- and if anyone bothered to read, you know, the cons ution, they would know explicitly how the militia was to be used. No one has to guess any of this.
    Asking for too much tbh.

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    I'm not stalking you, I'm mocking you, re . Stop posting stupid .
    See my prior post.

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