Rockets: James Harden has the ugliest game..

[Brazil]

As discussed in that thread http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...86#post6425786

Harden is fourth in the nba for going to the line but he is also fifth on attempts at the rim. At least he is doing whatever he can to get the calls.

Regarding OP I disagree, he has a pretty game. His passes are spot on, his JS is smooth, he is attacking the rim and overall quite spectacular

[HarlemHeat37]

Harden deserves most of his calls, I didn't say otherwise..

Simply pointing out that his game is disgusting, tbh..

[Spur-Addict]

I'm just tired of guys league wide, jumping into defenders, bumping into guys, or doing that ridiculous swing through arm movement for calls. It's not good for the league. There was a sequence in the second half where Harden came off a PnR and jumped into air thinking a guy was behind him and got the call. Terrible. Aside from that , he has a very craft game that I fully respect.

[Brazil]

Harden deserves most of his calls, I didn't say otherwise..

Simply pointing out that his game is disgusting, tbh..

I still fail to understand what in Harden's game is disgusting according to you

[Uriel]

spursfan hating on a carbon copy of Manu Ginobili

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Raven]

it's getting worse every game, he doesn't seem to be able to make a clean jump shot anymore, i don't know who was saying that but he is completely right, he seems more like a dancer than a bb player tbh.. he's a great player though, not taking anything from him..

[baseline bum]

spursfan hating on a carbon copy of Manu Ginobili

pathetic

CROFL

[pikkiwoki]

Typical GNSF response

Harden's "superstar" iso game

[Double-Up]

it's getting worse every game, he doesn't seem to be able to make a clean jump shot anymore, i don't know who was saying that but he is completely right, he seems more like a dancer than a bb player tbh.. he's a great player though, not taking anything from him..

WTF? He's banged up but still ballin, look up the highlights from the 1st part of the season and you'll see a big difference.

[jag]

i can tell harden grew up playing with his uncles and older cats, his game is so advanced for being 23. he has that old man street ball game. he reminds me of this guy I used to hoop with named "mad ball". he attacked the basket non stop, always drew contact and every shot attempt was either a foul or a make.

If you throw in "Queensbridge" and a reference to a stabbing or shooting, this could easily be a Ron Artest story about his boy "Mad Ball" from the projects.

[jestersmash]

Harden is at 10.3 FTA/gm. Manu has never averaged more than 6 FTA/gm.

Harden does a couple things well and milks them. Manu's game is a lot more diverse.

Manu averaged .44 FTA/FGA (free throw attempts/field goal attempts) in 06-07, and .45 FTA/FGA in 07-08.

Harden is at .58 FTA/FGA this season. He was .59 FTA/FGA last season.

Harden does get to the line more often than Manu did in his prime, but the difference isn't as pronounced as "10.3 FTA/game versus 6 FTA/game" suggests. That's a deceptive stat to look at.

However, one more note. The difference isn't also as little as .58 versus .44 would suggest, because the league average for FTA/FGA in '12-'13 is .281, whereas the league average for FTA/FGA in 07-08, for example, was .318.

Harden has a sizeable FTA/FTA advantage in an era where refs are more conservative with awarding free throws in general.

[phxspurfan]

lol @ people calling Durant's game ugly. If the game was sped up he'd easily have one of the most smooth, entertaining games ever. It's only the NBA / refs fault for slowing it down and putting him on the line so much. He would beast on almost everybody in an NBA Jam-style game. Just swishing those 35' threes alone looks pretty awesome.

But on topic, Harden's game is actually pretty respectable compared to guys like Griffin (a million spin moves and still puts up a weird fading to the side brick from 8 feet), James (just run through guys), and Howard (no game unless spoon fed). Harden and Westbrick actually have pretty SG games. Both can slice and dice through defenders like butter and take crazy angles which draw contact.

[DAF86]

Manu 0.2 is a ing G. Not as good and fun as the original version but still pretty ing good, imho.

[Thread]

^& he looks absolutely adorable with that fork sticking out of his ing back.

tee, hee.

[djohn2oo8]

But no, after one game you can't say his game is ugly, especially when he doesn't have his normal explosiveness.

[Clipper Nation]

But on topic, Harden's game is actually pretty respectable compared to guys like Griffin (a million spin moves and still puts up a weird fading to the side brick from 8 feet)

Please..... you don't brick your way to the second best PER among power forwards and the second best TS% among power forwards with 30+ MPG...

I also love how the main criticism of Blake has shifted from having no moves at all to having a million moves

[whitemamba]

Please..... you don't brick your way to the second best PER among power forwards and the second best TS% among power forwards with 30+ MPG...

I also love how the main criticism of Blake has shifted from having no moves at all to having a million moves

can u pull up stats on where blake shoots and the percentage from each area, from games i have seen it looks like its 60% dunk/layup %30 just being stronger than the other guy in the post.. i.e. mistmatch or blake is simply just stronger, and 10% 10+ foot j's.. enlighten us and show us what his offensive game is all about

[in2deep]

what a dumb thread.

James Harden played as 2nd or 3rd best player in the Allstar game where there are no fouls. Dude is legit.

[GoodOdor]

Manu 0.2 is a ing G. Not as good and fun as the original version but still pretty ing good, imho.

Once Harden takes his team to the playoffs he has already eclipsed Manu's NBA career, tbh.

[hater]

Once Harden takes his team to the playoffs he has already eclipsed Manu's NBA career, tbh.

Manu's body never allowed him to maintain such a high level in regular season + playoffs. Harden definitely could have a better career than Manu but he needs to prove it in the playoffs. He choked in the finals.

So far Manu has shone much brighter but Harden is still young and could go to next level and beyond.

[GoodOdor]

Manu's body never allowed him to maintain such a high level in regular season + playoffs. Harden definitely could have a better career than Manu but he needs to prove it in the playoffs. He choked in the finals.

So far Manu has shone much brighter but Harden is still young and could go to next level and beyond.

Manu has spent his career being the #2/3 guy - Harden has already shown he is a legit number 1 guy, tbh. If you call what Harden did "choking", then what do you call
what Manu did against the thunder?

[DAF86]

Once Harden takes his team to the playoffs he has already eclipsed Manu's NBA career, tbh.

Neat sentence construction.

[GoodOdor]

Neat sentence construction.

Thanks scrah.

Manu4evah.

[hater]

don't be dumb. Manu never had opportunity to be #1 in NBA. He did prove he can take his team to gold as #1 option. Prime Manu would have easily matched Harden's feat this year of taking Rockets to playoffs.

[Double-Up]

Once Harden takes his team to the playoffs he has already eclipsed Manu's NBA career, tbh.