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Anyway possible that Ben Gordon opts out of his 13M/yr contract?
The Spurs have enough SG/SF who opt to shoot 3 point shots, what they need is a backup PG who can penetrate, dish the ball and rebound and a PF/C with height who can shoot a jump shot, rebound and block shots. Devin Harris is a nice option, Jerrett Jack, Al Jefferson, Milsap.
Anyway possible that Ben Gordon opts out of his 13M/yr contract?
Livingston from the Cavs can handle the backup PG.
Read recently that Houston may look to trade Thomas Robinson this summer as they try to clear the cap room necessary to make a play for Howard. If we send them Bonner's contract this summer (or mills or neal) in exchange, Rockets would shed over 2m right there. Robinson would be an awesome project big, and probably better than anything in the draft this year.
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I have had similar thoughts (about other players), but if the Spurs find a way to amnesty Bonner, they then can just use their cap space to trade for Robinson. That would be much more attractive than making the other team take on salary.
A draft-night trade is a different story, however. Bonner's contract may be a much better tool to use then.
From what I've seen of him, Thomas Robinson looks like a bust in the Shelden Williams mold.
I don't think the Spurs will resign Jackson, he is gone, no matter what he does in the POs. IMO.
Diaw will probably stay.
Not sure about Mills, if I had to guess, he will also stay. How many options does this guy really have?
The Spurs will overpay Tiago, he is a MUST for the years to come. They will not let him walk away.
Neal, this guy has probably more options than Mills.
Bonner and Blair...I don't know, hopefully they used them to get higher picks or just let them walk.
With Jackson gone, do we need to be looking at a wing player now instead of a big?
We'll need a backup 3 regardless, but with questions over Manu's fitness going forward we might need to commit some cap space to a swingman.
However, if we do go for a big we would still have the room exception to offer. Kyle Korver would be a good option as a backup. Even though he's 32 he might command more than the room exception though.
I'd love Korver as a backup, what position is he exactly though? He's listed as a SG but I could've sworn he played at SF with CHI. A SG that could also play SF would be perfect for this team with Jack's departure, Manu's injuries, and the possibility that some team over pays for Neal.
-He's a shooting guard but he stands 6'7" so he can play some SF. He wouldn't be able to defend any elite SFs like Durant or Lebron though.
No, he's an SF and despite him playing both throughout his career, that's all he should be. He lacks the quickness to defend SG's and the ball skills to play it on offense, thereby making him an SF by default.
He's not what the Spurs need, though. They need a bigger SF, that can defend at least respectably in addition to shooting the three at least respectably. D. Wright makes the most sense, but I suspect they end up with Casspi.
Does anyone else think the Spurs might be players in the amnesty game this summer with any cap room they might have?
The Jackson fiasco must remind Spurs to be careful that players are fine with the role they will have. It's even more true for players with big egos. Spurs should avoid to create logjams and stockpile players just because they are good.
Pop recent quotes about Kawhi playing heavy minutes is also to take into account for next season. Either the backup SF signed will play little minutes or he will have to play alongside Kawhi. I don't think it's a necessity to be quick to be paired with Kawhi on the wings because Kawhi can defend most of the SGs but what is needed is being a very good long range shooter. Players like Dunleavy, Dorrel Wright, Korver or Casspi fit that mold. Signing one of them means that he won't only be limited to the few minutes available behind Kawhi at SF.
They should also avoid handing a rotation spot to limited, low upside players, who haven't given reason to believe they'll be deserving of a larger role. Good teams don't do that and they especially don't out of fear about how another player will handle a potentially diminished role. In fact, they usually do the opposite and stock themselves with as much depth as they can get. Look no further than the Heat, who have Miller, Lewis and Anthony (I include him because of his contract) as non rotation players.
Being a respectable or better defender should matter, too.I don't think it's a necessity to be quick to be paired with Kawhi on the wings because Kawhi can defend most of the SGs but what is needed is being a very good long range shooter.
I'm starting to think it's not a lock that Bonner is gone next season. He's been making shots recently, and if he has any semblance of his regular-season game in the playoffs, he may be worth keeping around, or at least holding onto for a trade at the deadline. If that ends up being the case, then the whole plan of the Spurs having cap room this summer goes out the window. They'd be very close to the MLE if they kept Bonner, re-signed Ginobili for $6 Million, used Splitter's cap hold and kept their first-rounder.
If the Spurs end up not having cap room this summer, then not trading Jack could end up being a really bad move. (I say this without knowing which deals the Spurs could have made, of course.)
Spurs aren't the Heat where players can just be happy to sit on the bench because they have a great shot at getting a ring at the end of the season. The ring chaser era is over for Spurs.
Please, don't tell it to Timmy...
and, for what it's worth, we're still this season, and probably also next one, one of the top five teams in the league.
So, if anybody wants a chance to the le, can look at our team as a legitimate one...
obviously, we're not the Heat, but differently from the Heat we can give players good roles and a decent amount of playing time, if they deserve it (by the way, I'm really sorry for SJ but he behaved like he was a nba star and not a player intelligent enough to understand that the main reason Spurs were paying him 10 millions was just 'cause, trading for him, they had the luxury of giving away RJ).
Given his current injury woes, doe Gino get $6 million per year, or $6 million/2years? As I think Bruno pointed out earlier, Wing players getting big contracts at his age are pretty much don't exist. Especially ones with injury histories...
I don't think $6 Million-per-year deal is an unreasonable at all. Even in his injured state, he's still worth about that much. That being said, since Duncan took significantly less than he was worth, it might be possible for Ginobili to return for the room exception. If he were to do that, the Spurs would actually have quite a lot of cap space even if they kept Bonner (in the neighborhood of $12 Million).
I think Ginobili's deal, like Duncan's was last year, will be dependent on whatever money the Spurs have left over after free agency. Had the Spurs had more than $10 Million under the tax this year, Duncan would have gotten more than he did. In that same way Ginobili may agree to take a lot less if the Spurs present to him a plan to bring in talent in free agency.
That's right, they're not the Heat; they're not as good as them, which is why it doesn't make sense for them to have less proven rotation caliber players.
Big deal if a player or two aren't thrilled with their roles. If their vaunted culture is as great as it's made out to be, then that shouldn't matter. Besides, it's basically unavoidable, unless you want to stock the back end of the roster with guys who really shouldn't be in the league and are just happy being in it, whether they play or not. Otherwise, that's the consequence that comes with having quality depth.
If ginobili came back for the room exception I'd be dancing. We'd have enough cap room to add a quality big and a wing player in free agency.
I think its a pipe dream though. I think he should get MLE money at most due to injuries, and best case would be a ray Allen contract
The difference between Allen's deal and the room exception is only about 900k total. If Ginobili is willing to take such a small deal to stay with the team, he'd probably be willing to take a little bit less. As you know, getting Ginobili to agree to the room exception ($5.4M/2) instead of a $6.3M/2 opens up that full $3.1 Million of cap room. Even if the Spurs hold onto Bonner, they'd still have enough room to sign a player to a near-max deal. The idea of giving the Spurs the most flexibility they've had in a decade, while also keeping their core together, may be enough to sway Ginobili to not look for other offers after they renounce his Bird rights. Then, if the plan fails, they can always give Ginobili a bigger deal with their cap space.
I agree, but I think the Ray Allen figure is the minimum that Manu would consider, and even then I dont think it's enough. Its tough because we need to weigh his actual production and injury issues vs his loyalty. Tbh if he walks in to the room and demands $7m per year, he should get it. He deserves it, but it could be the difference between another championship or not.
Also if I'm in Manus position and the FO asks me to take a massive pay cut to Room Exception levels, I'd demand they amnesty Bonner. If the Spurs are going to low ball Manu to chase free agents, they should be doing everything possible to maximise cap room and Bonner is very expendable.
What ever else happens, the bolded bit will not work... Until Gino's status is settled, he has a cap hold of $19,136,250 (according to Sham sports). Until that goes away, we have no cap space (approximately)... So they have to settle on a deal with Gino or renounce his rights before they do just about anything else.
That only matters if the Spurs re-sign Ginobili with Bird rights. No scenario laid out by in this thread supposes that. Therefore, it makes more sense to renounce Ginobili and then re-sign him later. They can agree to a deal with him and still renounce him, especially if he agrees to take the room exception.
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