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    they're all TBTJ, nuthin EFFECTIVE gonna happen.

    who pays the "costs of Libor manip"? pension funds, municipalities, etc. $100B stolen through blatant fraud, yawn. Surprised? It's the financial sector

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    A judge on Friday dismissed a "substantial portion" of claims facing a number of banks in a barrage of lawsuits accusing them of interest-rate rigging.

    U.S. District Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald in Manhattan ruled for the banks, which include Bank of America Corp , JPMorgan Chase & Co and others, of allegedly manipulating the London Interbank Offered Rate, commonly known as Libor.


    The judge granted the banks' motion to dismiss the plaintiffs' federal an rust claims and partially dismissed their claims of commodities manipulation. She also dismissed racketeering and state-law claims.


    The decision is a significant setback for private plaintiffs, whose lawsuits had been consolidated before the New York judge as part of a multidistrict litigation proceeding
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...92S0HE20130329

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    she's in Wall St pocket, part of the corporatocracy.

    her dismissal MUST be appealed.

    Banks have already, "effectively", admitted guilt.

    "Barclays agreed to pay 290 million pounds ($441 million) and Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plcpaid $612 million to U.S. and U.K. regulators to resolve claims. UBS AG (UBSN) agreed to pay 1.4 billion Swiss francs ($1.47 billion).Other defendants in the civil lawsuits include Credit Suisse Group, HSBC Holdings Plc (HSBA), Deutsche Bank AG, Citigroup Inc. (C) and RBS.
    Buchwald dismissed the an rust claims because the plaintiffs didn’t allege enough facts to show that they were harmed by the alleged misconduct. The judge dismissed some commodities-manipulation claims because they centered on transactions that were too long ago. Other such claims may proceed, she said."

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    Lynn Parramore: Your Retirement for a Bottle of Champagne – How Wall Street Fraudsters Ripped You Off, Again

    Just as you’re struggling to finance a summer vacation, or simply to pay the freaking rent, how would you like to open your wallet and hand over a wad of cash to a gang of international con artists who commit fraud as casually as they order a five-course dinner?

    Really? That’s how you feel about it? Well, tell it to the U.S. Department of Justice, because that’s just what’s going down as a result of the LIBOR scandal.

    To recap: Bank hustlers manipulated the world’s most important set of benchmark interest rates and thereby impacted the prices of upward of $500 trillion worth of financial instruments. The LIBOR scam devastated state and municipal budgets, squeezed pension yields and ripped off bank shareholders. In a case of jaw-dropping fraud, greedy traders rigged up the benchmark so that they could cash in on bets on derivatives, while banks submitted fake numbers to make themselves look financially healthier.

    One Barclays official was fond of fudging numbers in exchange for champagne. “Dude…I owe you big time!” gushed a trader in an email to Barclays’ Mr. Fix-It. “Come over one day after work and I’m opening a bottle of Bollinger.”

    That’s right. A bottle of bubbly for a scam that screwed your grandma on her retirement savings. Retail bank certificates of deposit, you see, are very popular with senior citizens, and they are priced based on LIBOR benchmarks. As Alexander Arapoglou and Jerri-Lynn Scofield have explained on AlterNet, that alone could cause Grandma’s income to drop by as much as 2 percent. It ain’t like she didn’t need the money! That’s not even counting what happened to her pension — or yours.

    LIBOR was, in the opinion of many, the con of the century. But is it a crime without punishment?

    About a month ago, the Wall Street Journal reported that a federal court judge had let several banks off the hook, dismissing claims that 16 banks targeted by lawsuits had broken federal an rust laws by rigging LIBOR. As Matt Taibbi explained in his must-read article on the banking scandal, the federal judge bought the banks’ ridiculous blame-the-victim story that if cities and towns and other investors lost money over LIBOR rigging, it was their own fault. Why would they think the banks were competing, rather than, um, “collaborating”? A collaborative cheer sounded in bank boardrooms around the world, because unless the plaintiffs can win on appeal, the ruling significantly reduces what banks would potentially have to pay for wrongdoing.

    Some people in the state of Oregon are feeling just a bit riled by this state of affairs.

    New research shows that the state of Oregon alone lost at least $110 million as a result of the LIBOR scam. The research on Oregon is based on an analysis of monthly investment data provided by State Street Bank, the custodian bank for the State of Oregon. On Friday, the Oregon Working Families Party joined a coalition of labor and community leaders to call on Governor John Kitzhaber to sue the Wall Street banks responsible for the costly fraud. According to a statement from the WFP, Oregon has not filed a single lawsuit in connected to LIBOR. The governor remains mute on the issue.

    “Wall Street just robbed us again. When are our leaders going to stand up for Oregonians to bring some of our money back home?” said Steve Hughes, state director of the Oregon Working Families Party. “This ain’t chump change either—with $110 million Oregon could literally double its contribution to the Oregon Opportunity Grant to help more Oregon students get a college education.”

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/...+capitalism%29

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    Everything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal Ever

    When that sprawling con burst into public view last year, it was easily the biggest financial scandal in history – MIT professor Andrew Lo even said it "dwarfs by orders of magnitude any financial scam in the history of markets."

    That was bad enough, but now Libor may have a twin brother. Word has leaked out that the London-based firm ICAP, the world's largest broker of interest-rate swaps, is being investigated by American authorities for behavior that sounds eerily reminiscent of the Libor mess. Regulators are looking into whether or not a small group of brokers at ICAP may have worked with up to 15 of the world's largest banks to manipulate ISDAfix, a benchmark number used around the world to calculate the prices of interest-rate swaps.

    Interest-rate swaps are a tool used by big cities, major corporations and sovereign governments to manage their debt, and the scale of their use is almost unimaginably massive. It's about a $379 trillion market, meaning that any manipulation would affect a pile of assets about 100 times the size of the United States federal budget.

    It should surprise no one that among the players implicated in this scheme to fix the prices of interest-rate swaps are the same megabanks – including Barclays, UBS, Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase and the Royal Bank of Scotland – that serve on the Libor panel that sets global interest rates. In fact, in recent years many of these banks have already paid multimillion-dollar settlements for anti-compe ive manipulation of one form or another (in addition to Libor, some were caught up in an anti-compe ive scheme, detailed in Rolling Stone last year, to rig municipal-debt service auctions). Though the jumble of financial acronyms sounds like gibberish to the layperson, the fact that there may now be price-fixing scandals involving both Libor and ISDAfix suggests a single, giant mushrooming conspiracy of collusion and price-fixing hovering under the ostensibly compe ive veneer of Wall Street culture.

    The Scam Wall Street Learned From the Mafia


    Why? Because Libor already affects the prices of interest-rate swaps, making this a manipulation-on-manipulation situation. If the allegations prove to be right, that will mean that swap customers have been paying for two different layers of price-fixing corruption. If you can imagine paying 20 bucks for a crappy PB&J because some evil cabal of agribusiness companies colluded to fix the prices of both peanuts and peanut butter, you come close to grasping the lunacy of financial markets where both interest rates and interest-rate swaps are being manipulated at the same time, often by the same banks.

    "It's a double conspiracy," says an amazed Michael Greenberger, a former director of the trading and markets division at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and now a professor at the University of Maryland. "It's the height of criminality."
    The bad news didn't stop with swaps and interest rates. In March, it also came out that two regulators – the CFTC here in the U.S. and the Madrid-based International Organization of Securities Commissions – were spurred by the Libor revelations to investigate the possibility of collusive manipulation of gold and silver prices. "Given the clubby manipulation efforts we saw in Libor benchmarks, I assume other benchmarks – many other benchmarks – are legit areas of inquiry," CFTC Commissioner Bart Chilton said.

    But the biggest shock came out of a federal courtroom at the end of March – though if you follow these matters closely, it may not have been so shocking at all – when a landmark class-action civil lawsuit against the banks for Libor-related offenses was dismissed. In that case, a federal judge accepted the banker-defendants' incredible argument: If cities and towns and other investors lost money because of Libor manipulation, that was their own fault for ever thinking the banks were competing in the first place.

    "A farce," was one an rust lawyer's response to the eyebrow-raising dismissal.

    "Incredible," says Sylvia Sokol, an attorney for Constantine Cannon, a firm that specializes in an rust cases.

    All of these stories collectively pointed to the same thing: These banks, which already possess enormous power just by virtue of their financial holdings – in the United States, the top six banks, many of them the same names you see on the Libor and ISDAfix panels, own assets equivalent to 60 percent of the nation's GDP – are beginning to realize the awesome possibilities for increased profit and political might that would come with colluding instead of competing. Moreover, it's increasingly clear that both the criminal justice system and the civil courts may be impotent to stop them, even when they do get caught working together to game the system.
    If true, that would leave us living in an era of undisguised, real-world conspiracy, in which the prices of currencies, commodit

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...425?print=true

    the financial sector is more sophisticated, more talented, more secretive, more powerful, and wealthier than any govt, is unstoppable.

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    and STILL the ING Repugs kill financial regulation:

    Elizabeth Warren Slams ‘Dangerous’ Legislation That Would Weaken Wall Street Reform




    A week after a bipartisan group of lawmakers on the House Financial Services Committee overwhelmingly approved a rollback of certain financial reforms contained in the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform Act, one of the Senate’s biggest consumer advocates is pushing back.


    Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D) came out swinging against the repeal of new rules meant to regulate derivatives, the complex financial instruments that were at “the center of the storm” that caused the financial crisis. The rules shouldn’t be weakened or repealed just because big banks want to see them eliminated, Warren argued Thursday, The Hill reports:

    “The big banks won some battles and lost some battles during the financial regulatory debate in 2009 and 2010, but their tune never changed and their lobbying never let up,” she said. “It is dangerous for Congress to amend the derivatives provisions of the Dodd-Frank Act without at the same time taking accompanying steps to strengthen reform and maintain the law’s equilibrium.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...street-reform/



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    The package of legislation isn’t expected to move forward in the Senate, according to Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT), one of the sponsors.
    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...-strengthened/

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    lol

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    the point: it's the REPUG "House Financial Services Committee overwhelmingly approved a rollback of certain financial reforms".

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    The banks involved — including Bank of America, Citibank and JPMorgan Chase — were cited for deficiencies in governance, risk management and internal controls. They were ordered to correct the problems and post as much as $959 million each in increased statutory reserves at zero interest rates for one year.


    Meanwhile, a probe into possible manipulation of the Hong Kong Interbank Offered Rate, a LIBOR equivalent, has been expanded. The Hong Kong Monetary Authority said Tuesday that HSBC Holdings, Hong Kong's dominant commercial bank, had been added to an investigation that initially focused on UBS. The iden ies of other banks being investigated in Hong Kong have not been disclosed.

    HSBC disclosed a year ago that it was involved in interbank probes in several countries. The bank said Tuesday itould not comment on "specific requests." UBS previously admitted to the manipulation of EURIBOR and TIBOR, interbank rates set in Brussels and Tokyo.

    Additionally, The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month that U.S. and British authorities are preparing to bring criminal charges against former employees of Barclays for their suspected roles in manipulating benchmark interest rates.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...hayes/2433551/

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    “We will never know the amounts of money involved, but it has to be the biggest financial fraud of all time,” says Adrian Blundell-Wignall, a special adviser to the secretary-general of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in Paris. “Libor is the basis for calculating practically every derivative known to man.”


    More than five years after alarms first sounded, regulators and prosecutors are closing in. UBS was fined a record $1.5 billion by U.S., U.K. and Swiss regulators in December for rigging global interest rates. Tom Hayes, 33, a former yen trader at the Zurich-based bank, was charged by the U.S. Justice Department on Dec. 20 with wire fraud and price fixing for colluding with brokers, contacts at other firms and his colleagues to manipulate Libor. Hayes hadn’t entered a plea as of mid-January, and his lawyers at Fulcrum Chambers in London declined to comment.


    Barclays paid a 290 million pound ($464 million) fine in June to settle with regulators, and three top executives, including CEO Robert Diamond, departed. Other banks, including RBS, were negotiating settlements in early 2013, according to people with knowledge of the talks. RBS may pay as much as £500 million to settle allegations that traders tried to rig interest rates, two people with knowledge of the matter say. UBS and Barclays admitted wrongdoing as part of their settlement agreements. Spokesmen for the two banks, and for RBS, declined to comment.


    The industry faces regulatory penalties of at least $8.7 billion, according to Morgan Stanley analysts. The European Union is leading a probe that could see banks fined as much as 10 percent of their annual revenue. Meanwhile, Libor is being overhauled after the U.K. government ordered a review in September into the way the benchmark is set.


    The scandal demonstrates the failure of London’s two-decade experiment with light-touch supervision, which helped make the British capital the biggest securities-trading hub in the world. In his 10 years as chancellor of the Exchequer, from 1997 to 2007, Gordon Brown championed this approach, hailing a “golden age” for the City of London in a June 2007 speech. Brown, who later served as prime minister for three years, declined to comment.


    Regulators have known since at least August 2007 that some banks were using artificially low Libor submissions to appear healthier than they were. That month, a Barclays employee in London e-mailed the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, questioning the numbers that other banks were inputting, according to transcripts published by the New York Fed. Nine months later, Tim Bond, then head of asset allocation at Barclays’s investment bank, publicly described Libor as “divorced from reality,” saying in a Bloomberg Television interview that firms were routinely misstating their borrowing costs to avoid the perception they were facing stress.


    The New York Fed and the Bank of England say they didn’t act because they had no responsibility for oversight of Libor. That fell to the British Bankers’ Association, the industry lobbying group that created the rate in 1986 and largely ignored recommendations from central bankers after 2008 to change the way it was computed. Regulators also were preoccupied with the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression, and forcing banks to be honest about their Libor submissions might have revealed they were paying penalty rates to borrow, which in turn would have further damaged public confidence.


    Libor is calculated daily through a survey of banks asking how much it costs them to borrow in 10 currencies for periods ranging from overnight to one year. The top and bottom quartiles of quotes are excluded, and those left are averaged and made public before noon in London.


    Because it’s based on estimates rather than actual trade data, the process relies on the honesty of participants. Instead of being truthful, derivatives traders sought to influence their own and other firms’ Libor submissions, with their managers sometimes condoning the practice, according to do ents and transcripts of instant messages obtained by Bloomberg.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...benchmark.html

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    Banks Slapped with $2.3 Billion Fine for Rate Manipulation

    Some of the world's biggest banks have been hit with a 1.71 billion euros ($2.3 billion) fine for interest-rate rigging by traders, the largest fine ever imposed by the European Commission.

    Joaquin Almunia, vice-president of the European Commission and the commissioner responsible for compe ion, said in a statement: "What is shocking about the Libor and Euribor scandals is not only the manipulation of benchmarks, which is being tackled by financial regulators worldwide, but also the collusion between banks who are supposed to be competing with each other.

    "Today's decision sends a clear message that the commission is determined to fight and sanction these cartels in the financial sector. Healthy compe ion and transparency are crucial for financial markets to work properly, at the service of the real economy rather than the interests of a few," he added.

    The offenses involved traders conspiring to fix the European interbank offered rate, known as Euribor, and its Japanese equivalent, the Yen London interbank offered rate -- Yen Libor, for profit.

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/12/...-manipulation/

    $2.3B, a hand slap,nobody goes to jail, world-wide corrupt financial sector continues as before.



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    so what about the muni bonds sold at rates increased by LIBOR fraud? will financial sector compensate the taxpayers?

    REDISTRIBUTION through FRAUD!

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    It certainly does seem to give 'unregulated free markets are best' a big fat black eye.

    I don't see any way to spin this other than pure unadulterated greed. What level of regulation would it take to make sure it doesn't happen again? This was HUGE during the early days of the financial crisis.

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    Another Batch of Wall Street Villains Freed on Technicality

    Dominick Carollo, Steven Goldberg and Peter Grimm were mid-level players who worked for GE Capital. They were involved in a wide-ranging scheme (one that also involved most of America's biggest banks, from Chase to BOA to Wachovia) to skim billions of dollars from America's cities and towns by rigging the auctions banks set up to help towns earn the highest returns on the management of municipal bond issues.

    The case was over 10 years in the making and involved offenses that took place long before the 2008 crash. All three defendants were convicted in May 2012, with Goldberg ultimately getting four years and the other two getting three.


    Now, they're all free. A New York federal judge last week ordered their convictions overturned in a quiet Thanksgiving-week transaction.


    The GE Muni-riggers will now join such luminaries as the Gen Re defendants (executives from an insurance company who were convicted in 2008 of helping AIG conduct a fraudulent accounting transaction) and the KPMG defendants (executives of the U.S. arm of the Dutch accounting giant who were convicted in the 2000s of selling illegal tax shelters) in the ranks of Wall Street line-crossers who improbably made it all the way to guilty verdicts in criminal cases, only to be freed on technicalities later on.


    As one an rust lawyer I know put it: "Apparently, the government can't seem to get criminal trials involving financial executives (as opposed to, well, drug dealers) right. Go figure."


    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...#ixzz2mcjXgE8p

    Another way the financial sector STEALS from taxpayers (who pay taxes to pay for the muni bonds + interest)



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    This is the kind of real conspiracy that you don't see on infowars, and is far more troubling for its realness.

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    It certainly does seem to give 'unregulated free markets are best' a big fat black eye.

    I don't see any way to spin this other than pure unadulterated greed. What level of regulation would it take to make sure it doesn't happen again? This was HUGE during the early days of the financial crisis.
    Honestly, given the amount of money involved and the importance of this benchmark, I would be all for assigning full-time regulators to literally stand around doing nothing but watching these ers work, reading every stinking email, and listening to every single phone conversation.

    Anyone caught manipulating it, gets the needle/firing squad, and I am not kidding about that.

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    "reading every stinking email, and listening to every single phone conversation."

    a job for the NSA!



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    Honestly, given the amount of money involved and the importance of this benchmark, I would be all for assigning full-time regulators to literally stand around doing nothing but watching these ers work, reading every stinking email, and listening to every single phone conversation.

    Anyone caught manipulating it, gets the needle/firing squad, and I am not kidding about that.
    Works for me. I think it's about the only way anyone could ever have any more confidence in any of them.

    I mean, let's face it, the entire world-wide monetary system is essentially a socially-constructed reality in that things are worth what we say they are worth because we all agree to the basics of the system. Much more of the kind of crap this has been and who the will agree with anything?

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    The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation sued 16 of the world's largest banks on Friday, accusing them of collusively suppressing interest rates.

    The lawsuit, filed in the federal district court in New York, was the latest to accuse financial ins utions of conspiring to manipulate Libor, or the London Interbank Offered Rate.


    The FDIC said the defendants' conduct caused substantial losses to 38 banks that the U.S. regulator had taken into receivership since 2008, including Washington Mutual Bank and IndyMac Bank.


    Among the banks named as defendants include Bank of America Corp, Barclays PLC, Citigroup Inc, Credit Suisse Group AG, Deutsche Bank AG, HSBC Holdings PLC, JPMorgan Chase & Co, the Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC and UBS AG.
    The lawsuit also named as a defendant the British Banks' Association, the U.K. trade organization which during the period at issue administered Libor.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0MB18R20140314

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    years, decades later, maybe a relatively tiny handslap fine for crimes that cost, and still cost, municipalities (taxpaers), $100Bs in elevated bond rates.

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    the black eye will last

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    the black eye will last
    who really cares? Americans still bank, and always will bank with the criminal TBTF banks, including some who got screwed by predatory lending by those banks.

    these financial crimes are too complex, too obscure, any connections to citizens way too long, and above all way too removed from people's lives. The criminal banks are laughing their asses off as they outfox the govt and fleece everybody out of $Ts. They are unstoppable.

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    Taxpayers are paying billions of dollars for a swindle pulled off by the world’s biggest banks, using a form of derivative called interest-rate swaps; and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation has now joined a chorus of litigants suing over it.

    According to an SEIU report
    :

    Derivatives . . . have turned into a windfall for banks and a nightmare for taxpayers. . . . While banks are still collecting fixed rates of 3 to 6 percent, they are now regularly paying public en ies as little as a tenth of one percent on the outstanding bonds, with rates expected to remain low in the future. Over the life of the deals, banks are now projected to collect billions more than they pay state and local governments – an outcome which amounts to a second bailout for banks, this one paid directly out of state and local budgets.


    It is not just that local governments, universities and pension funds made a bad bet on these swaps. The game itself was rigged, as explained below. The FDIC is now suing in civil court for damages and punitive damages, a lead that other injured local governments and agencies would be well-advised to follow. But they need to hurry, because time on the statute of limitations is running out.
    On March 14, 2014, the FDIC filed suit for LIBOR-rigging against sixteen of the world’s largest banks – including the three largest USbanks (JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, and Citigroup), the three largest UKbanks, the largest German bank, the largest Japanese bank, and several of the largest Swiss banks. Bill Black, professor of law and economics and a former bank fraud investigator, calls them “the largest cartel in world history, by at least three and probably four orders of magnitude.”

    LIBOR (the London Interbank Offering Rate) is the benchmark rate by which banks themselves can borrow. It is a crucial rate involved in hundreds of trillions of dollars in derivative trades, and it is set by these sixteen megabanks privately and in secret.
    Interest rate swaps are now a $426 trillion business. That’s trillion with a “t” – about seven times the gross domestic product of all the countries in the world combined. According to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, in 2012 US banks held $183.7 trillion in interest-rate contracts, with only four firms representing 93% of total derivative holdings; and three of the four were JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, and Bank of America, the US banks being sued by the FDIC over manipulation of LIBOR.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-glo...-suing/5377703

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    the largest cartel in world history, by at least three and probably four orders of magnitude.”

    set by these sixteen megabanks privately and in secret.

    "Who Do You Begrudge Them Wealthy For Their Wealth?" -- WC

    "Behind Every Great Fortune Is A Great Crime" -- Honore de Balzac


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