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    calm down john wayne... zimmerman was a trigger happy wannabe...
    That won't be convicted of second degree murder because Martin was clearly beating on Zimmerman (you can argue the severity of the wounds all day long but it's irrelevant) when he got shot.

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    Like I said. You would be an awful attorney. You are claiming all sorts of that is not backed up by the facts of the case.

    And yeah, I'm not mad but I do find you to be a boring, stupid piece of .
    okay, whatever dude. after this i'm not responding to your juvenile tantrums in this thread until you can debate like an adult.

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    again, according to state law, zimmerman's attorney must convince the jury that his client used necessary force due to his life being in danger. the injuries he sustained from his ass whoopin' are not life threatening. therefore, the prosecution will paint the picture of an fed up and armed former neighborhood watchmen who followed an unarmed child and killed him. hopefully the jury of mothers will see the pain in trayvon's mother's eyes and empathize with her and make the right decision. only person's who's life was in danger that night died.

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    okay, whatever dude. after this i'm not responding to your juvenile tantrums in this thread until you can debate like an adult.
    @ debating like an adult...the guy that makes up that has absolutely no relationship to the facts of the case.

    It's clearly all about race with you.

    You will defend the stupid black guy as opposed to the stupid anglo/hispanic guy just because you claim to be black yourself.

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    4:47 p.m. ET: The judge wants to give attorneys more time to research the matter. The jury is being brought back in.
    4:44 p.m. ET: The defense says the call shows previous "bad acts" committed by Zimmerman because he called police about a black male in the past. The prosecutor says it shows the basis for his comment about "these [expletive] always getting away."
    4:40 p.m. ET: The attorneys are arguing about the relevance of the call. The prosecutor says this call shows Zimmerman's state of mind.
    4:39 p.m. ET: The prosecutor is playing another 911 call made by Zimmerman on August 3, 2011, where he reports a su ious person. He tells the dispatcher they had some break-ins in the neighborhood and the suspect matches the description of the person who allegedly did it. The defense objects to the relevance of the call. The judge asks the jurors to leave.




    the prosecution is winning day 1 so far by painting a more clearer picture of a vigilante watchmen.

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    Lol CC is so immature. Pretty pathetic that old men still resort to kindergarten type attacks.

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    If roles and race were reversed.
    Travis Martinez a 17 year old Peru-white mixture in the neighborhood
    shot by
    George Washington Zimmer a black Neighborhood Watch guy.

    Now what would the Trills be saying?

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    Yeah the overall feeling so far is that the prosecution is winning so far.

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    again, according to state law, zimmerman's attorney must convince the jury that his client used necessary force due to his life being in danger. the injuries he sustained from his ass whoopin' are not life threatening. therefore, the prosecution will paint the picture of an fed up and armed former neighborhood watchmen who followed an unarmed child and killed him. hopefully the jury of mothers will see the pain in trayvon's mother's eyes and empathize with her and make the right decision. only person's who's life was in danger that night died.

    at the internet forum attorney that is too stupid to understand the nuance between "his life was in danger" and "had reason to believe his life was in danger".

    Now you try to play internet forensic scientist and say "see, his skull isn't bashed in and there wasn't THAT much blood...so his life wasn't in danger".

    Zimmerman was pinned to the ground by a 6'1" tall athletic man that was sitting on his chest repeatedly banging his head against the concrete.

    Most reasonable people will give the defendant the benefit of the doubt on that one that he might have had REASON to fear for his life.

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    If roles and race were reversed.
    Travis Martinez a 17 year old Peru-white mixture in the neighborhood
    shot by
    George Washington Zimmer a black Neighborhood Watch guy.

    Now what would the Trills be saying?
    bruh, look at my post history. Trill is #teamkids, no matter the color. when i feel a child was a victim of abuse or in this case, death, i am going to have their side. this case is ed up because a unnarmed innocent kid died for nothing.

    ya'll bringing up "if tray was x,y,z" just tells me ya'll are the ones with the race issue, not me.

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    Has the defense called any witnesses yet? It's still the prosecutors turn, isn't it. Calling a win for the prosecution... laughable!

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    If roles and race were reversed.
    Travis Martinez a 17 year old Peru-white mixture in the neighborhood
    shot by
    George Washington Zimmer a black Neighborhood Watch guy.

    Now what would the Trills be saying?
    Thanks for the daily irrelevant comment. See you tomorrow!

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    at resorting to "you must be lying because it doesn't validate my prejudices".

    ing pissant loser.

    BTW, It's notarize not notorize loser.
    When someone resorts to grammar smack in an effort to shore up their argument, that is not a good sign.

    I deduct a point from CC showing weakness.

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    lol the defense is upset at the 911 calls from the past being played. i hope the judge allows the other to be called cuz lawd knows zimmerman had 911 on speed dial.

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    @ debating like an adult...the guy that makes up that has absolutely no relationship to the facts of the case.

    It's clearly all about race with you.

    You will defend the stupid black guy as opposed to the stupid anglo/hispanic guy just because you claim to be black yourself.
    Well something is surely clear but I don't think it's what you think it is. I really never thought you were this bad CC.

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    That won't be convicted of second degree murder because Martin was clearly beating on Zimmerman (you can argue the severity of the wounds all day long but it's irrelevant) when he got shot.
    Nice bravado. Perhaps you could point us to a specific statute or precedent to validate this claim.

    It really seems that you are arguing like WC does. Fill in the gaps on things you clearly have no way of knowing in a way it just so happens to help those who you are partisan for.

    Go prune a tree or something.

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    Nice bravado. Perhaps you could point us to a specific statute or precedent to validate this claim.

    It really seems that you are arguing like WC does. Fill in the gaps on things you clearly have no way of knowing in a way it just so happens to help those who you are partisan for.

    Go prune a tree or something.
    It's actually pretty simple. Trill even posted it for you even though he is too stupid to understand what he posted.

    a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
    (b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
    Martin was sitting on Zimmerman's chest whacking his head against the concrete. Even the prosecution admits this. After you get your head whacked against the concrete a few times it's pretty reasonable that you might think you were in danger of great bodily harm.

    Zimmerman was apparently crying like a girl for Martin to stop. Martin apparently didn't stop until the gunshot stopped him.

    That is a of a hill for the prosecution to overcome.

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    That is much better. You stopped behaving like a 12 year old.

    Now where is the proof of Martin crying or the prosecutions admission? What basis in Florida is used to determine what is a reasonable act to think one's life is in danger?

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    i know what i posted and i stated that the defense has to prove zimmerman's life was in danger. which is wasn't.

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    bloody nose, scratch on back of head=/= i'm about to die, let me kill this lil .

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    i know what i posted and i stated that the defense has to prove zimmerman's life was in danger. which is wasn't.
    You are still too ing stupid to understand the nuance.

    The defense does NOT have to prove his life was in danger.

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    Just a random note, Jorge must be using a lot of that tea party money on food. Since tea baggers have been giving him thousands for killing a black kid he's blown up


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    You are still too ing stupid to understand the nuance.

    The defense does NOT have to prove his life was in danger.
    yes they do. they have to prove the act of self defense, the definition of which i posted and you quoted. the prosecution just has to shoot down the notion that trayvon was beating zimmerman to death and paint the picture of zimmerman as an armed, obsesssed, former watchmen. which they've done so far.

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    yes they do. they have to prove the act of self defense, the definition of which i posted and you quoted. the prosecution just has to shoot down the notion that trayvon was beating zimmerman to death and paint the picture of zimmerman as an armed, obsesssed, former watchmen. which they've done so far.
    Trill, I haven't been keeping up with the details, but in Florida you don't have to prove self defense like most other states. The burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove it WASN'T self defense per Florida law iirc. I think that's totally backwards, but it's how the law is.

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    yes they do. they have to prove the act of self defense, the definition of which i posted and you quoted. the prosecution just has to shoot down the notion that trayvon was beating zimmerman to death and paint the picture of zimmerman as an armed, obsesssed, former watchmen. which they've done so far.
    Got DAMN you are stupid.

    Getting your head whacked into the concrete over and over is clearly hazardous to your health. The defense has to prove REASONABLE FEAR of serious bodily harm. You don't have to SUSTAIN serious bodily harm before using deadly force to defend yourself.

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