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  1. #26
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    "@sam_amick: Re 's four year, $27 million deal will play part in setting market for shooting guards: Kevin Martin, Monta Ellis, JR Smith, OJ Mayo..."
    i doubt it tbh, red is a decent team player that plays some defense and doesn't need to hold onto the ball. These four examples are not.

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    What a crap return for The Bucks

    In the end, they traded Tobias Harris and Doron Lamb for 2 2nd round picks.

    What a moronic franchise seriously.

    That's a great move for LAC.

  3. #28
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    Not sure how its "lol suns"?

    Cleared CAP on a player who at his best is 10 PPG with a 4.5 per million contract and got an in-demand PG who will see meaningful minutes. When his numbers double/triple as his role increases, he could become a significant piece in trades.

    Clippers got two quality rotation players who are better on good teams than bad ones, and Suns saved like two years, 9 million, clearing 4.5 in CAP for next summer.
    'Eh, what does the caproom matter when you have a front office who selects Alex Len over Nerlens Noel and Kendall Marshall over John Henson in back to back years though?

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    Clippers are ed..they lose intensity and defensive ball pressure....having a player like Red is only useful if you have a dominant center...Red will get torched on the defensive end, he cannot dribble penetrate like Bledsoe, cannot defend to save his life and generally get abused...he will hit an occasional 3 but the Hair Nappy Clippas won't be able to defend didly squat...

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    JJ is a more of a liabilty than an asset for the Hair Nappy Clippas...

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    Clippers meeting with Carl Landry tonight. They're gonna be a force.

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    It's actually not a bad deal for the Suns either, provided Bledsoe improves on the offensive end.... the Bucks got absolutely raped though
    Yeah I don't see how this is bad for the suns. It's a pretty meaningless trade for them IMO neither good nor bad. They get a young overrated PG who's ceiling is a good 6th man for a role player who's useless on a rebuilding team.

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    JJ is a more of a liabilty than an asset for the Hair Nappy Clippas...
    Salty ass

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    If they get Landry then they get props...but JJ aint

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    who is he going to defend..like Bledsoe and Butler...they got up in s and defended..JJ is a pussy

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    Landry would be a crazy pickup for them. If they make that move and if Doc can teach Blake some of the classball he learned running lockout practices for the 99 Spurs they could have a real shot to come out of the west.

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    "Suns rebuilding with a young point guard in Bledsoe..."

    Huh? Didn't they sign Dragic to a five year deal and draft Kendall Marshall in the lottery last summer?

    The only way this would make this move truly a Phoenix Suns type of deal is if Bledsoe had a younger brother and the Suns drafted him in the second round.

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    who is he going to defend..
    Ssh

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    "Suns rebuilding with a young point guard in Bledsoe..."

    Huh? Didn't they sign Dragic to a five year deal and draft Kendall Marshall in the lottery last summer?

    The only way this would make this move truly a Phoenix Suns type of deal is if Bledsoe had a younger brother and the Suns drafted him in the second round.
    The suns and their jeebo fan base are convinced that getting a pg to replace Nash is priority number one before they can rebuild this they're making David Kahn type moves.

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    'Eh, what does the caproom matter when you have a front office who selects Alex Len over Nerlens Noel and Kendall Marshall over John Henson in back to back years though?
    I will accept that. I'm still pissed. Only thing I can say is their world-class medical staff "flagged" Noel's knee.

    But it does matter, because most franchise sales require clearing cap, along with the acquisition of young players and picks.

    Fingers crossed!!! I've heard some whispers for a few years. We shall see.

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    Yeah I don't see how this is bad for the suns. It's a pretty meaningless trade for them IMO neither good nor bad. They get a young overrated PG who's ceiling is a good 6th man for a role player who's useless on a rebuilding team.
    indeed it doesn't look that bad this way, what i'm concerned is if they think they can play both dragič and bledsoe at the same time, neither is a natural shooter.

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    sasha played hard nosed defense to be honest...is a pest....JJ is not

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    I think Sarver would be very interested in selling except he still makes money every year (somehow) and would have to take a bath on the sale price compared to what he paid for it. I don't see Sarver selling any time soon.

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    Bledsoe is in the mold of the modern athlete PG.

    My hope is he's showcased and could be traded when he's averaging 18 PPG, 6 APG.

    I could also see Dragic being traded.

    And Marshall is useless.

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    It gets better:



    Bringing back Barnes in addition to Re , Dudley, and possibly Landry would be insane, tbh....

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    It gets better:



    Bringing back Barnes in addition to Re , Dudley, and possibly Landry would be insane, tbh....
    Yeah, that would cap an incredible offseason if they can put all that together. I feel like Barnes can get plenty more than that though

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    indeed it doesn't look that bad this way, what i'm concerned is if they think they can play both dragič and bledsoe at the same time, neither is a natural shooter.
    Yeah that's some pretty re ed nit picking. The suns are in full rebuilding mode and should be stockpiling talent not worrying about how well two players play with each other. The team is five years away from returning to contention at the least.

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    The suns and their jeebo fan base are convinced that getting a pg to replace Nash is priority number one before they can rebuild this they're making David Kahn type moves.
    Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a horrible deal for the Suns if you just look at the deal on itself. But I just don't get it. If they want to use assets like Dudley and second round picks to make a deal, I would have guessed they should have targeted an offensive minded wing player or a young athletic PF. But they keep adding PGs of the "future."

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    I think Sarver would be very interested in selling except he still makes money every year (somehow) and would have to take a bath on the sale price compared to what he paid for it. I don't see Sarver selling any time soon.
    Wrong. Suns are worth upwards of 100 million more now than when they were purchased 9 years ago.

    That's projected, but I think it quoted Forbes.

    Suns were actually "worse" in public perception in 2003-04 and Colangelo was a motivated seller.

    Suns had missed playoffs 2/3 seasons, were averaging like 43 wins a year for the last 8 seasons, had a few "scandals" with Dumars, Kidd, and Robinson, and had advanced past the first round only once since the 94-95 season.

    For as down as they are, as you've said, they are still making money, and are more well regarded by fans, mostly from the "fun-n-gun" days.

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