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    Jason Kidd says o.

    Back in 2004 the Spurs even offered Kobe Bryant a max contract before re-signing Manu.
    I don't remember Kobe, probably because of the O% chance he would sign. Jason Kidd was offered something like 80 million but that would have meant bye bye Tony Parker. I'm not so sure that would have been good in the long run. But neither of those players signed. Big time free agents don't like to sign with small market teams.

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    Screw it. Time to lay all our cards on the table, play the ace in the hole.






    Tell them we're willing to concede that Bonner will be included in the trade [gasp]

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    Spurs are blowing it up in two years. But we'll be starting from scratch and it will be very hard to convince any game changer to come here for the max when we can't argue that we'll be contenders. We'll need to get lucky like Houston did by getting Harden and some developing pieces, and then hope we can attract a big time player to take less money to play for us. I still think the only formula for the Spurs acquiring a superstar is through the draft.
    That very well could be exactly how it plays out. Then again, maybe some big name FA out there looks at a 24 year old Kawhi Leonard, a 33 year old Parker who should still have a few years left in the tank and a serviceable center in 30 year old Tiago Splitter is enough of a core to compete with. The FO seems to think that the latter is a realistic enough of a scenario to start lining up all their expiring contracts for that offseason. Will it work out that way? We'll see.

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    Jeff McDonald
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    Embed Tweet 1:04 PM - 11 Jul 13 Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 35m To my knowledge, AK47 thing is inactive. But things can always change. RT Paully_eFFerson Targeting AK47 or is/are there other(s)?Expand Collapse Reply Retweet Retweeted Delete Favorite Favorited More Embed Tweet mwelnack ‏@mwelnack 33m @JMcDonald_SAEN Paully_eFFerson who were they offering?Details Expand Collapse Reply Retweet Retweeted Delete Favorite Favorited More Embed Tweet spursfan4life ‏@thehalestone 20m @JMcDonald_SAEN Paully_eFFerson Minny has renounced rights to AK47. S&T off the table. Would have to sign as UFA by clearing cap space.

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    I feel like I'm back in middle school and just went through a bad break up after a one week relationship. It's saddness all around, but I look back and say, "wow what a ride!" for all the excitment that is now gone.
    Sounds you like you had some serious relationships when you were 12.

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    ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 35m To my knowledge, AK47 thing is inactive. But things can always change.
    Would somebody mind sending a courtesy tweet to McDonald to let him know that the Spurs signed Manu and Belinelli today?

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    Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN 1h Greetings from El Paso (?). Spurs officially have announced re-signing of Manu Ginobili and signing of Marco Belinelli.

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    Bumping this sad cesspool of a thread when Spurs make it back to the finals sans AK47.

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    I don't remember Kobe, probably because of the O% chance he would sign. Jason Kidd was offered something like 80 million but that would have meant bye bye Tony Parker. I'm not so sure that would have been good in the long run. But neither of those players signed. Big time free agents don't like to sign with small market teams.
    what small market team has won a le in the past 2 decades (other than the spurs) ? (the point being we can not conclude either way that the reason is based on the actual size of the market as opposed to the typical success usually associated with the smaller of the former)

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    what small market team has won a le in the past 2 decades (other than the spurs) ? (the point being we can not conclude either way that the reason is based on the actual size of the market as opposed to the typical success usually associated with the smaller of the former)
    Miami.

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    Except they're not a small market...

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    Borrowed from another thread ducks posted this in.

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    Aaaaaaand now we're done here.

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    ^^^^^^ This, I wake up to come see this thread again and it is still going and at the top of the page It says talks end without a deal and we are still talking about it lol.
    I've only read about 1/4 of the thread, not bothering with the rest. Crazy if it reaches a hundred pages. Would like to see it happen, though.

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    miami is a small market team if you look at that from the perspective of television only (even then it ranks at 16). it is not small market in regards to how it is regarded by the media or in terms of its sports scene. it also has a large appeal to the players, seperating itself from the likes of SA, memphis, OKC or indianapolis. in the context of the subject it would not belong to the set being referred to.

    the real contention here is that players typically prefer to play in the glamour cities that have broad appeal or the larger markets. it is possible they could also be drawn to a perrenial winner though.

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    Aaaaaaand now we're done here.

    Not really, it's quote coming from a Spurs fan. I haven't seen any journalist/league source saying that Kirilenko Bird rights have been renounced. In fact, the Martin trade isn't even official and Brewer hasn't been signed.

    A potential Kirilenko S&T is at the same probability level than this morning.

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    Not really, it's quote coming from a Spurs fan. I haven't seen any journalist/league source saying that Kirilenko Bird rights have been renounced. In fact, the Martin trade isn't even official and Brewer hasn't been signed.

    A potential Kirilenko S&T is at the same probability level than this morning.
    Ugh. My twitter illiteracy gets the better of me. Put the plug back in, the patient isn't dead just quite yet........

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    the real contention here is that players typically prefer to play in the glamour cities that have broad appeal or the larger markets. it is possible they could also be drawn to a perrenial winner though.
    The Spurs success came through the draft, not free agency. The Spurs won't be in serious contention when Duncan retires so signing game changing free agents will most likely be out of the question. It would even suprise me to see the Spurs trade Parker for building blocks and draft picks to keep the rebuilding process short and sweet.

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    Sounds you like you had some serious relationships when you were 12.
    Four glorious days with Sandra McGee in 5th grade pale in comparison with what we've had with AK47 this past week.

    It's been glorious AK....

    But I have to remind myslef that some birds just aren't meant to be caged.
    Their feathers are just too bright.


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    Parker will not be traded, there is a loyalty issue regardless if Tim leaves. Front Office won't make a splash either, they'll just play and hope they can draft someone.. I don't see any game changing players in the draft that will fall to the Spurs in the next few years so who knows what they'll do or where they'll go.

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    I don't remember Kobe, probably because of the O% chance he would sign. Jason Kidd was offered something like 80 million but that would have meant bye bye Tony Parker. I'm not so sure that would have been good in the long run. But neither of those players signed. Big time free agents don't like to sign with small market teams.
    Kidd was offered a max deal, and the Spurs intended to move Parker over to two-guard. While he may well have left after his contract was up, they weren't going to get rid of him. They also offered Jermaine O'Neal a max, which he turned down to play under Isaiah Thomas.

    The Spurs will surely be able to offer a max deal (almost two if Parker leaves, even if Leonard, Green and Splitter stay), and if they feel like their new core can compete, they'll almost certainly try for an elite power-forward through free agency or trade. No reason to waste that opportunity for Kirilenko.

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    miami is a small market team if you look at that from the perspective of television only (even then it ranks at 16). it is not small market in regards to how it is regarded by the media or in terms of its sports scene. it also has a large appeal to the players, seperating itself from the likes of SA, memphis, OKC or indianapolis. in the context of the subject it would not belong to the set being referred to.

    the real contention here is that players typically prefer to play in the glamour cities that have broad appeal or the larger markets. it is possible they could also be drawn to a perrenial winner though.
    Miami isn't small market in any sense whatsoever. Its a houston sized city to begin with, has the fanbase of all southern florida, and is a major international city. On top of that there's the whole glamor factor...

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    Well, assuming the Kirilenko thing falls through, is there any other 3/4 out there of interest? The free agent market has kind of dried up.

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