Why is Tony Parker getting a pass?

[TheGreatYacht]

Same old BS crap out of you. Take your blinders off and maybe then you might gain some credibility in your posts.
But all we get is the same old BS about it being only Manu and Pop at fault instead of the whole team. If you don't think TD made any mistakes, then you are just being dense and blind. They all made mistakes, the whole team.
But go ahead a spew your BS crap some more, because no reasonable people believe you anymore.

They all made mistakes. Those mistakes are the type of mistakes that a team can overcome but Manu and Pop made the most mistakes. The other's mistakes were minor compared to all the bad that Pop and Manu did in Game 6 therefore Pop and Manu are the most responsible for costing Timmy his 5th ring. Heat should very grateful that Manu was dishing out assists to the other team and that senile Pop outcoached himself. Pop and Manu are the most to blame. There's no other way around this. Take those Spurs goggles off.

[DAF86]

TP woulda been the hero in game 6 if the Heat didn't get fluky to go in tbh. Parker's performance down the stretch was a thing of elite players. This is coming from a Parker hater, btw.

1) He was injured most of the series
2) I'm pretty sure Parker basically won the championship in Game 6 before the team pulled off the biggest chokejob in Finals history.

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Spurs were up 13 with 3:35 remaining on the 3rd quarter with all the momentum in the World, people were already handling the Spurs the trophy and making fun of Lebron. From that point forward Tony got into hero ball either 'cause he felt like he had to take the team home or 'cause he wanted to steal finals MVP and went 3 for 11 the rest of the game.

The truth is Parker averaged 23 ppg on 47% shooting the first three rounds and only 15.7 ppg on 41% shooting during the finals. He was along Splitter the only guy that exponentially dropped his level on the finals.

His decrease on production is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) reason the Spurs didn't win the championship.

[xmas1997]

They all made mistakes. Those mistakes are the type of mistakes that a team can overcome but Manu and Pop made the most mistakes. The other's mistakes were minor compared to all the bad that Pop and Manu did in Game 6 therefore Pop and Manu are the most responsible for costing Timmy his 5th ring. Heat should very grateful that Manu was dishing out assists to the other team and that senile Pop outcoached himself. Pop and Manu are the most to blame. There's no other way around this. Take those Spurs goggles off.

Just as I come to expect from you, more BS crap! Don't you ever get tired of beating a dead horse? Because I guarantee most of us get tired of reading of your redundant posts about Manu and Pop. It is as bad as this other guy blaming it all on TP. It's ludicrous, can't you see that? As much as this guy is convinced it is all TPs' fault, you are equally convinced it is All Manu and Pops fault! Do you see that? Can't you see how dense and blind that is?
That's the last I will comment on it because some people just see what they want to see and you are a prime example of that, just as the OP is!

[resistanze]

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Spurs were up 13 with 3:35 remaining on the 3rd quarter with all the momentum in the World, people were already handling the Spurs the trophy and making fun of Lebron. From that point forward Tony got into hero ball either 'cause he felt like he had to take the team home or 'cause he wanted to steal finals MVP and went 3 for 11 the rest of the game.

The truth is Parker averaged 23 ppg on 47% shooting the first three rounds and only 15.7 ppg on 41% shooting during the finals. He was along Splitter the only guy that exponentially dropped his level on the finals.

His decrease on production is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) reason the Spurs didn't win the championship.

That's not what I saw in game 6. The Spurs had a 10 point lead entering the 4th quarter until Pop decided to bench Tony TD and Kawhi, where the lead was subsequently erased in minutes. The Spurs were playing catch-up until Parker's step-back 3 and subsequent score to take the lead within the final minute. Call it luck or whatever but the Spurs shouldn't have relinquished the lead once Parker put them ahead with 57 seconds left.

It's madness to proclaim his drop in production can be possibly the biggest reason they didn't win. He was slowed down significantly after the hamstring pull in game 3. And he had LeBron draped all over him for significant parts of the series. They were in position to win the le - they should have won the le.

It's not like if the Spurs won people would say they won 'in spite of Parker'. That's definitely the case for Manu though - if he did literally anything right that game, they probably win. Even with Manu's horror show, they still should've won. It took the biggest comedy of errors in NBA Finals history to reverse that.

[xmas1997]

They all made mistakes. Those mistakes are the type of mistakes that a team can overcome but Manu and Pop made the most mistakes. The other's mistakes were minor compared to all the bad that Pop and Manu did in Game 6 therefore Pop and Manu are the most responsible for costing Timmy his 5th ring. Heat should very grateful that Manu was dishing out assists to the other team and that senile Pop outcoached himself. Pop and Manu are the most to blame. There's no other way around this. Take those Spurs goggles off.

Ok, I'll play devils advocate here and say that in some alternate universe you are right about every single thing you've said.
So then the question becomes: what is your solution? Fire Pop and force Manu to retire? What do you expect the Spurs to do since thegreatyacht is spot on in his assessment, and lord have mercy if they don't make him happy?
What exactly do they need to do in order for you to quit your ing, whining, and redundant bashing?

[hater]

That's not what I saw in game 6. The Spurs had a 10 point lead entering the 4th quarter until Pop decided to bench Tony TD and Kawhi, where the lead was subsequently erased in minutes.

I'm glad someone remembers how it really happened. 10 point lead entering the 4th and Pop takes out Parker and let's Manu run the show. Unfortunately it was the Miami Heat show yes run by Manu Ginobili.

Manu handed the Heat their run and that is when lead was squandered. If not for Parker, Heat win game 6 by double digits.

[Brazil]

blaming Parker
blaming individuals
being angry for making a legendary 7 games serie against one of the best team of the past 10 years lead by the most dominant player since MJ with a 30 y/o PG, a sop re, two tosb, some undrafted dudes, Matt Bonner and a 60 MUSD payroll
spurs fans

I won't ever recover from 28 I cried

[cd021]

You mean Bonner always chokes in the playoffs, don't you? That most will agree with.

Can a role player really choke in the post season? Thats kind of an oxymoron. Super stars get the big bucks to carry a team, Bonner is there to fill a specific need. If he can't fill it in the post season, then its up to pop to make necessary adjustments.

[therealtruth]

They all made mistakes. Those mistakes are the type of mistakes that a team can overcome but Manu and Pop made the most mistakes. The other's mistakes were minor compared to all the bad that Pop and Manu did in Game 6 therefore Pop and Manu are the most responsible for costing Timmy his 5th ring. Heat should very grateful that Manu was dishing out assists to the other team and that senile Pop outcoached himself. Pop and Manu are the most to blame. There's no other way around this. Take those Spurs goggles off.

Exactly. There's a difference between unforced/forced turnovers for instance. Coaches reallly hate the unforced ones with the exception of Pop when he's playing Ginobili. It's not to easy to guess why. You can control the unforced turnover by simply not throwing the ball to the other team. If am playing for the Spurs and Pop subs me in on the last possesion and I go up to Lebron and hand him the ball and we lose, you can't keep saying that it's the whole team's fault we lose.

You're right about Pop's rotations. In the regular season you rest your guys to try and close out the game. In game 6 with a 10 point lead and 3-2 series lead you do absolutely everything to protect the lead. Pop coached like he didn't care about the lead. If you keep the lead long enough you usually don't have to overplay your guys. It seems at times like Pop has no sense of game momentum. Everybody but Pop realized it was dangerous for Lebron to get going at the end of the 3rd-4th was where the game was being decided. I takes a certain kind of ego to just believe you can just put your starters in after you've blown the lead and just win the game.

[Kool Bob Love]

I'm glad someone remembers how it really happened. 10 point lead entering the 4th and Pop takes out Parker and let's Manu run the show. Unfortunately it was the Miami Heat show yes run by Manu Ginobili.

Manu handed the Heat their run and that is when lead was squandered. If not for Parker, Heat win game 6 by double digits.

But with Parker we lose still...............Parker chokePERIOD. Just like everyone else on the team.

[Kool Bob Love]

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Spurs were up 13 with 3:35 remaining on the 3rd quarter with all the momentum in the World, people were already handling the Spurs the trophy and making fun of Lebron. From that point forward Tony got into hero ball either 'cause he felt like he had to take the team home or 'cause he wanted to steal finals MVP and went 3 for 11 the rest of the game.

The truth is Parker averaged 23 ppg on 47% shooting the first three rounds and only 15.7 ppg on 41% shooting during the finals. He was along Splitter the only guy that exponentially dropped his level on the finals.

His decrease on production is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) reason the Spurs didn't win the championship.

But but but he's our MVP.

[hater]

But with Parker we lose still...............Parker chokePERIOD. Just like everyone else on the team.

Manu sits the entire playoffs and we win it all.

on the other hand, Parker sits in the playoffs and we lose in round 2 vs. the Warriors

facts support this theory.

[Kool Bob Love]

Manu sits the entire playoffs and we win it all.

on the other hand, Parker sits in the playoffs and we lose in round 2 vs. the Warriors

facts support this theory.

[hater]

yes he did shoot the game winner. but in my opinion and analysis we beat the Warriors even if we lost game 1.

[Kidd K]

Pop could go the John Kundla route and no one would remember him that well.

I don't believe so, because Kundla isn't remembered because he won in the "white era" when the NBA just started and nearly everybody sucked at the sport. A random team of 20-something year old blacktop players from Chicago and New York would probably win the NBA le if you transported them into the past to form a team. Almost nobody from that era is remembered at all besides George Mikan.

Pop won in the modern era and tv era. He'll definitely be remembered. They've already been giving him props every year and calling him the best coach in the NBA for a few years now.

He just won't be mentioned above the "big 3" for le totals and big market wins. But he'd be the 4th face on the Mt. Rushmore of all time great coaches.

[DAF86]

That's not what I saw in game 6. The Spurs had a 10 point lead entering the 4th quarter until Pop decided to bench Tony TD and Kawhi, where the lead was subsequently erased in minutes. The Spurs were playing catch-up until Parker's step-back 3 and subsequent score to take the lead within the final minute. Call it luck or whatever but the Spurs shouldn't have relinquished the lead once Parker put them ahead with 57 seconds left.

It's madness to proclaim his drop in production can be possibly the biggest reason they didn't win. He was slowed down significantly after the hamstring pull in game 3. And he had LeBron draped all over him for significant parts of the series. They were in position to win the le - they should have won the le.

It's not like if the Spurs won people would say they won 'in spite of Parker'. That's definitely the case for Manu though - if he did literally anything right that game, they probably win. Even with Manu's horror show, they still should've won. It took the biggest comedy of errors in NBA Finals history to reverse that.

I agree with you, Pop was a dumb in games 6 and 7 and Manu was the Heat's best player on game 6 but still he played more or less on the same level he played all season long and during the other playoffs series (11.5 ppg, 38% shooting during the first three rounds and 11.6 ppg on 43% shooting during the finals with all the other stats being about the same, yep including the TO's).

Yeah, the Spurs would have probably won if Pop would have kept his head out of his ass or if Manu would have done anything positive on game 6 but they would have also won if Parker had played anything close to the level he played at all season long during the finals. Pop, Manu and Tony are the three biggest reasons for the Spurs not winning the championship but only Pop and Manu are the ones getting the blame.

[DAF86]

Manu sits the entire playoffs and we win it all.

on the other hand, Parker sits in the playoffs and we lose in round 2 vs. the Warriors

facts support this theory.

So, you're telling me that if we sit a guy that was the second playmaker of the team and had a PER of around 19 during the playoffs we win it all? Who would have been the playmaker/ball handler when Parker had to sit? Joseph, Neal? Maybe they wouldn't have turn the ball over as much as Manu (big if, tbh) but they definitely wouldn't have been able to run the show as well as Manu did, even with all the problems Manu had on this regard.

[Baam]

yes he did shoot the game winner. but in my opinion and analysis we beat the Warriors even if we lost game 1.

We win game 1 more easily without Manu as well, Spurs were up 5 when he launched a Westbrook like midcourt 3 that changed everything.

[Baam]

Manu s and Popsuckers reaching

[Kool Bob Love]

Manu s and Popsuckers reaching

So its a reach to say Parker, who was our MVP this whole season, the bed in game 6 and went 6-23?

If lebron did that we would never hear the end of it.

[Baam]

You said he choked when he was actually clutch at the end of the game.

Also ZERO turnover is just incredible against this defense.



Gino and T-Vag with the epic plus minus, lol Pop playing a full bench players lineup at the beginning of the fourth...

[spurraider21]

you're blaming the wrong Tony tbh....

[TE]

you're blaming the wrong Tony tbh....

fkk it was the Romo effect...

[Skull-1]

It was the Ginobili suck effect. Almost as many TURNOVERS as points. Eight turnovers. Eight. Eight turnovers. Eight. Eight. Eight. Turnovers. Also referred to as MIAMI ASSISTS.


Eight. Turnovers.


for $7.5M a year you, too, can have this washed up, brain dead idiot giving the ball away to your rivals.

Jezus I must be dreaming.

[Skull-1]

You say Timmy the bed even though he had monster #'s in Games 6 & 7 Kawhi the bed even though he was hustling, getting boards, and playing good D on Lebron You say Green the bed even though he's a big reason why we even had Games 6 & 7 You say TP the bed even though he hit that clutch 3 point shot to put us up by five with 28 secs to go Manu had 8 TURNOVERS, slipped and didn't cover Ray Allen for the clutch three point shot, and kept shooting jacking up three's yet you blaming the whole team Manu's help defense was pathetic fouling every time he reached to swipe the ball yet you blame the whole team Pop took out our best rebounder in Timmy in the final two possessions of the 28 seconds yet you blame the whole team Pop with his regular season rotation in a Game 6 yet it's the whole team's fault Geez, you are such a blind and delusional homer