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    A ban like this would never work because people lie. You can't read people's minds.

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    A ban like this would never work because people lie. You can't read people's minds.
    John Hagee could never be a city councilman with a ban like this.

    So at least there's that.

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    A ban like this would never work because people lie. You can't read people's minds.
    people can cite social media, speeches, docs, etc by city council candidates spouting discrimination.

    the opposition to the original text is pure bull and strawmen. They claim "freedom of religion" would be violated because they couldn't hate on LGBT AND be on the city council. The city can make its own rules about city council members and that doesn't violate anybody's religion.

    Hagee speaks on Glenn Beck so you know, again, that Hagee is a ing "Christ-like" hater.

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    The law seems over-reaching but getting christians to shut the heck up has its appeal. How about stocking the Alamodome up with some lions?

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    you need to read my post again.
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    Does anyone oppose a policy that says the city will not hire people who have publicly stated "all persons of Anglo decent should be deported back to England?"
    Yes because its unnecessary. Its thought policing. Its especially stupid for people who are elected to begin with.

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    These types of laws are what scare me about liberals. Freakin thought police.
    Lets not act like this is a liberal thing only. Pledge of allegiance, ten commandments, flag pins anyone?

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    like this is such a distraction and utter bull . The ordinance would accomplish a whole of a lot of nothing yet its one of the biggest subjects in SA news right now. I'm certain there are 100s of problems if not 1000s that should be addressed instead of like this.

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    San Antonio is also the only major metro area in Texas that doesn't already have this.
    Could you imagine if they banned people for being black?

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    Interesting

    “No person shall be appointed to a position if the city council finds that such person has, prior to such proposed appointment, engaged in discrimination or demonstrated a bias, by word or deed, against any person, group or organization on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender iden y, veteran status, age or disability,” the ordinance reads.
    When did saying something become an act of discrimination?
    Looks like anyone serving on the council saying people with any traditional values can't serve need to be booted out...

    That is a bias, isn't it?

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    viewpoint discrimination?

    facially uncons utional, or so one would think.
    Absolutely.

    This is a clear violation in my view at least.

    (now it's time for you to change sides since I agree with you)

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    Could also work against atheists, for instance if they have ever complained about "Bible Thumpers". A bias (I read this as "Any" bias) is a pretty broad brush, it would seem to me. Just about any person who has a public record could be found to have some bias against someone for something, couldn't they? If you mention to someone that you get nervous when a Muslim gets on a plane; if you told someone you thought Christians were always trying to regulate morality because of their bible (shows a bias)...

    Basically unless you never draw any conclusions about anyone you meet, they are a complete and utter, equal, blank white (er... neutral color) slate - you can't be hired or work for the city (based on the wording of this law).

    Thought policing sucks.
    LOL...

    True.

    I was thinking a few minutes ago, this can ban everyone. Who would be left?

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    it doesn't say "believe". believe whatever stupid bull you want.

    it says: "discrimination or demonstrated a bias, by word or deed"

    it doesn't say "Christian" either
    Read that again...

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    Pledge of allegiance,
    got its start as an observation of socialist/nationalist Christians who favored a Roman salute, fwiw.

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    gotdam left wing Christians left out God in their version of the pledge

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    what we ever needed one for, for a free people in a great --indeed, world-historically prestigious and influential -- republic, was always bit beyond me, but maybe that's the point.

    it's no longer a free republic, it maybe ceased to be one about 10-12 years ago. I am still waiting for our representatives to recover their wits. 12 years on, a few are starting to turn their heads and reassess our tragic response to 9/11, domestically and abroad.
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    (now it's time for you to change sides since I agree with you)
    bull . what side are you on?

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    bull . what side are you on?
    LOL...

    It was a joke.

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    "waiting for our representatives to recover their wits"

    the wealth, aka power, of the 1% and corps has increased so much that it will keep the govt compromised, corrupted, and beholden to the corporate/1%'s mere pocket change spent to keep the govt running the country for the 1% and against the 99%.

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    Lets not act like this is a liberal thing only. Pledge of allegiance, ten commandments, flag pins anyone?
    Im not making the connection?

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    opening your mouth is an action, and especially where lots of other people hear you.

    Keeping religious assholes who hate and discriminate publicly out of public office is the best policy.

    They are free, ie, not restricted by govt, to "believe" their crazy , and hate/exclude/discriminate against women, foreigners, coloreds, LGBT, etc, but all of that disqualifies them from office in a "equal opportunity", secular government that is supposed to serve ALL of society and without imposing the hateful crazies' religious morals and ethics.
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    opening your mouth is an action, and especially where lots of other people hear you.

    Keeping religious assholes who hate and discriminate publicly out of public office is the best policy.

    They are free, ie, not restricted by govt, to "believe" their crazy , and hate/exclude/discriminate against women, foreigners, coloreds, LGBT, etc, but all of that disqualifies them from office in a "equal opportunity", secular government that is supposed to serve ALL of society and without imposing the hateful crazies' religious morals and ethics.
    Well, using those parameters Boutons is clearly barred from working for the city. He has a whole shopping cart full of bias's.

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    Well, using those parameters Boutons is clearly barred from working for the city. He has a whole shopping cart full of bias's.
    not bias, but evidence against Repugs, right wingers, mega-corps, etc, etc.

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