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    The biggest elephant is the atheist or agnostic.

    People asked when will a black man ever become elected...
    I ask, when will an admitted atheist or agnostic become president?
    >70%+ of US is Christian. You can't win with <30% of the vote

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    They all do.

    You have too look at what the history of their actions, not what they promise.
    47% said it all last election. Off air to cons uents.

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    >70%+ of US is Christian. You can't win with <30% of the vote
    Uhh what are the % of black voters Sherlock?

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    Uhh what are the % of black voters Sherlock?
    because a white voter voting for a black man = a christian voting for a non-christian

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    because a white voter voting for a black man = a christian voting for a non-christian
    So a self proclaimed Christian could never vote for an agnostic?
    And the 70% number, you really believe that's accurate? I don't. You can poll for an opinion, but not skin color.

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    So a self proclaimed Christian could never vote for an agnostic?
    And the 70% number, you really believe that's accurate? I don't. You can poll for an opinion, but not skin color.
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/159548/id...christian.aspx

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    No wonder.
    I was raised Catholic and identify myself as Catholic. But religiously I would be agnostic, especially to the family.
    I don't think I'm alone. And I could definitely vote for someone who states they don't know. It's more of a cultural upbringing for me to call myself Catholic.

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    "To us, it looks as though [George W.] Bush, [ ] Cheney and [Donald] Rumsfeld never left the White House," says Alexei Pushkov, chair of the State Duma's international affairs committee.

    "It's basically the same policy, as if US leaders had learned nothing and forgotten nothing in the past decade. They want to topple foreign leaders they regard as adversaries, without even making the most basic calculations of the consequences. An intervention in Syria will only enlarge the area of instability in the Middle East and expand the scope of terrorist activity. I am at a complete loss to understand what the US thinks it is doing," he says.


    truth bomb

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    Do people who voted for Obama even like Obama anymore?

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    Do people who voted for Obama even like Obama anymore?
    I didn't vote. After I saw the disgrace that was the Obama vs. Romney foreign policy debate, I laughed and decided not to vote. Those 2 were agreeing on everything

    ing pieces of

    but I admit I was rooting for Obama, just for the sole fact that Romney promised to sell even more of the country to the corporations

    but now, I am not sure I would even root for Obama

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    Do people who voted for Obama even like Obama anymore?
    Did people who voted for Obama have a better option?

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    I'm really starting to like Obama. You young healthy liberals will have to buy health insurance now which will subsidize my older employees...I can drop health coverage and give them an "Obamacare bonus" and still put 40K more a year in my pocket...and the more he s up in North Africa and the Middle East the higher oil prices go and the better the South Texas economy does and the more money I make. I realize that long term it will up the US economy bad but my kids and grandkids will be set and it's just you liberal heads in dead end jobs voting for this that will take it in the ass.


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    I'm really starting to like Obama. You young healthy liberals will have to buy health insurance now which will subsidize my older employees...I can drop health coverage and give them an "Obamacare bonus" and still put 40K more a year in my pocket...and the more he s up in North Africa and the Middle East the higher oil prices go and the better the South Texas economy does and the more money I make. I realize that long term it will up the US economy bad but my kids and grandkids will be set and it's just you liberal heads in dead end jobs voting for this that will take it in the ass.

    "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."-Jesus

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    The biggest elephant is the atheist or agnostic.

    People asked when will a black man ever become elected...
    I ask, when will an admitted atheist or agnostic become president?
    I think you're agreeing with me but not sure tbh.

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    Well despite everything else, IMO, Mitt was way more qualified than Obama despite the fact people seemed to hate him personally. I cared about 3 issues give or take and Mitt seemed better equipped to deal with those economic issues. Obama is like Jim Buss.
    Mitt's experience doesn't make his ty supply-side ideas that have repeatedly failed in the past any less ty. His economic plan of "Cut taxes for the rich so da wealth trickles down, cut spending in everything EXCEPT the military which should actually spend $200 billion more annually than it already does, and deregulate everything all over again!" was no different than Dubya's economic plan that sent us into a recession. The fact he had great "experience" as a leveraged buyout guru who bankrupted K.B. Toys doesn't change how ty his plan was.

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    Do people who voted for Obama even like Obama anymore?
    They like his black side, not his white side. Unfortunately it's his white side that won the 2nd term.

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    I think you're agreeing with me but not sure tbh.
    There's a giant elephant in the room that's the cause for America's obsession with sentimental bull and weird stuff like kissing babbehs and being the "Guy you wanna have a beer with!" that you don't see in countries like Britain, Germany, Canada or Japan. The ironic part is it's an elephant you'd never want to address.

    I think the pachyderm falls under the bolded with religion.
    Agree.

    Personally I like a beverage with an old fashioned atheist.

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    Mitt's experience doesn't make his ty supply-side ideas that have repeatedly failed in the past any less ty. His economic plan of "Cut taxes for the rich so da wealth trickles down, cut spending in everything EXCEPT the military which should actually spend $200 billion more annually than it already does, and deregulate everything all over again!" was no different than Dubya's economic plan that sent us into a recession. The fact he had great "experience" as a leveraged buyout guru who bankrupted K.B. Toys doesn't change how ty his plan was.
    LOL Boutons without the autobot cliches.

    They all lie on their talking points to get elected. *see Barack Obama*

    I think Mitt would have been more pragmatic on what the US could and could not accomplish on foreign policy.

    Really irrelevant at this point. Obamas legacy will be that he destabilized every autocratic regime in North Africa and the Middle East (in the name of "democracy") leaving the gate wide open for Islamic Zealots.

    Deal with it.

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    it's the more plausible explanation. Assad had nothing to gain from the use of chemical attacks and everything to lose. On the other hand rebels had everything to gain and nothing to lose.



    so what? any child could easily deduce that rebels have chemical weapons in Syria:
    - Libyan Al-Qaeda rebels went to Syria to fight - fact
    - These same rebels were in possession of chemical weapons in Libya - fact
    - These same rebels brought their weapons they stole from Lybian army via Qatar and are using them in Syria - fact

    now you are telling me you believe they decided not to bring their chemical weapons because they want to fight a clean fight?

    "Hey mohameed, should we bring our chemical weapons?"
    "nah bro, we are the good guys, we don't roll like that..."



    never said that. Just disputing your claim that "germans are on board with US, UK, France" that is BS
    You completely ignored my asking for a credible source that the rebels had chemical weapons or that the stolen chemical weapons were in syria. As such you have not established anything as fact. Your tin foil Ho Chi min trail in the arab world is also unsubstantiated. Neither does your 'logic' demonstrate and your dialogue is just made up nonsense. I could just as easily say that they were saving them for attacks on western targets corroborated by evidence that OBL and current leader Zawihiri prefer western targets over arab targets because it turns muslims against their cause.

    Further, you indeed claimed that they used the chemical weapons that were used against the rebels ie themselves. You also argued about Germany but that does not preclude you making the other argument. Germany indeed agrees that Syria used chemical weapons they just don't support armed intervention which I never claimed anyway.

    All in all you are a tin hat conspiracy nut anyway as you have demonstrated over and again. If you come up with something credible then I will respond else the last word is yours.

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    TRMS had a great take on American hypocrisy tonight.

    Reagan, etc knew their ally Saddam was gassing Iranians in the '80s, including nerve gas, but there was no outrage then. Now, massive outrage about the gassing in Syria.

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    I'm not going to do the homework for you lazylumpkins

    it's proven fact that Al-Qaeda militans from Libya are fighting in Syria, it's a proven fact that they are bringing their weapons from Lybia via Qatar. It's on the internet, go and look it up. If you're too lazy then go ahead and call me a tin foil conspiracist.

    and no you said "germany is on board" when they are nowhere near the board. Feel free to post credible sources thou

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    Foreign Policy reporting that intercepted phone calls are the "proof" Assad carried out the attack http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/po...used_nerve_gas

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    TRMS had a great take on American hypocrisy tonight.

    Reagan, etc knew their ally Saddam was gassing Iranians in the '80s, including nerve gas, but there was no outrage then. Now, massive outrage about the gassing in Syria.
    Actually there was.

    But not enough to bomb who we backed.

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    Foreign Policy reporting that intercepted phone calls are the "proof" Assad carried out the attack http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/po...used_nerve_gas
    Foreign Policy is an excellent example of a credible source.

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    I'm not going to do the homework for you lazylumpkins

    it's proven fact that Al-Qaeda militans from Libya are fighting in Syria, it's a proven fact that they are bringing their weapons from Lybia via Qatar. It's on the internet, go and look it up. If you're too lazy then go ahead and call me a tin foil conspiracist.

    and no you said "germany is on board" when they are nowhere near the board. Feel free to post credible sources thou
    So I am supposed to look up your contentions and I am also supposed to support my own contentions? That is so obviously hypocritical it's sad.

    We both know that your sources are Alex Jonesesque nonsense blogs. I don't blame you for not wanting to post them again as it certainly makes you seem like tin hat material.

    You go ahead and continue to agree with the Russians and Iranians and I will continue to look to credible sources such as the one a few posts above.

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