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Actually the senate will just strip out the Ocare provision and send it back to the house.
What Fed funds?
Last time I checked, this nation was in debt.
Actually the senate will just strip out the Ocare provision and send it back to the house.
yet another person who doesn't understand how ACA works. Been sucking down the Repug anti-ACA lies and sabotage, have ya?
The deficit isn't the same as the national debt.
The CBO report shows that the U.S. still has a long-term debt problem, but there is no short-term problem whatsoever. The idea that drastic action must be taken today to cut the deficit immediately is just complete nonsense.
Bravo Ted Cruz. Bob Corker, Sit Down.
Hugh Hewitt | Sep 20, 2013
Texas Senator Ted Cruz is drawing a lot of ire and fire from the Beltway GOP.
The eloquent and passionate Texas freshman has raised the hair on necks of the Republicans who sought a deal to avoid the unpleasantness of brinksmanship with the most incompetent president of modern times.
It is absolutely the case that the GOP will, in the end, have to vote for a Continuing Resolution that funds Obamacare. It will require winning the Senate for the GOP in 2014 and the presidency in 2016 to repeal Obamacare.
Cruz's strategy right now is to mobilize the public in 2013 so that those goals are possible in 2014 and 2016. Principled conservatives can disagree on tactics, and even on strategy, but they cannot disagree on the fact that Obamacare is killing jobs and the American health system.
Cruz and his fellow gifted rhetoricians Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio have all inveighed against Obamacare consistently and for months. They have a plan to keep the fiasco that is Obamacare front and center of the American people, and they are working the plan. They are building a movement, not a dance card, in D.C.
The House Republican leadership would have mostly preferred to fade the issue, hoping that events would break their way or at least resolve in some sort of bipartisan consensus.
Events broke their way only in the fact that this disaster of a president was revealed to the world by Vladimir Putin as a bumbling, stumbling incompetent that only the Beltway GOP could not flank.
This president won't stand up to Assad or Putin, but he will bully Beltway Republicans. That's what he does. It is the only thing he has done well in the past five years.
But the four aces of the GOP in the Senate won't be intimidated and won't be bullied, even when their colleague John McCain calls them "whacko birds."
Cruz and his colleagues rallied hundreds of thousands of voters to sign on to the effort to defund Obamacare. That's called building a network that can be mobilized in future elections. That's called playing to win, now and in 2014 and 2016.
Even as I was talking with Senator Cruz about the end game, though, a long line of Republican time-servers lined up to criticize the Texas senator for daring to rally the troops and charge the hill.
The stunner came from en led Tennessee senator Bob Corker, a very wealthy guy who won a very narrow victory in his first Senate race in 2006 with the help of serious conservatives of the sort now supporting Ted Cruz. Senator Corker won a comfortable re-election in 2012, so he thinks he doesn't need those sort of people any more. Thus he snidely attacks their favorite new face in D.C., demonstrating both envy and a profound ignorance of how quickly six years pass.
Corker, a household name in the Corker household, is a graduate of the University of Tennessee, which I had always thought a prestigious university until today. Corker made a lot of bucks in the development biz. Like Terry McAullife. Like Terry McAuliffe, Senator Corker has a hard time cabining his contempt for people who prefer ideas to bank balances.
Recall that Cruz is the son of an immigrant and an exile, that Cruz is a self-made man and a genuine intellectual, who has argued eight times before the Untied States Supreme Court.
Recall that Cruz is everything anyone would want a second generation American to be --or an any generation American to be.
So what did Corker snark out over Twitter on Thursday?
Senator Bob Corker
@SenBobCorker
14h
I didn’t go to Harvard or Princeton, but I can count -- the defunding box canyon is a tactic that will fail and weaken our position. –BC
Get it? That climber, that immigrant's kid who did good in school and excelled at Princeton and Harvard Law and is oh so smart, well Bob Corker thinks he needs to sit down and shut up. Just like Clarence Thomas needed to sit down and shut up in 1991. Just like all the Tea Party nutters need to sit down and shut up. The rich guys who bought their seats have this one. Leave it to the guys who golf.
Speaker John Boehner's aides are flooding the Huffington Post with anonymous quotes blasting Cruz for forcing the House to force the Senate Democrats to get endangered Senate Democrats Begich of Alaska, Landrieu of Louisiana, Shaheen of New Hampshire, Pryor of Arkansas and Udall of Colorado to vote again for or against Obamacare, thus opening them up for devastating and deserved attacks in 2014.
The K Street Republicans, however, are really and truly enraged that Cruz is trying to win the Senate back and really intends to get rid of Obamacare. The country club Republicans are upset he didn't wait his turn and is getting more press than they are.
Bravo, Ted Cruz. And Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. Press on. The country's in a bad place with a lost-in-space president. Ignore the sniping from the time-servers and the past-their-sell-date GOP. Reagan would be applauding.
http://townhall.com/columnists/hughh...1705054/page/2
HOUSE REPUBLICANS LINE UP FOR FREE ANNUAL PHYSICALS BEFORE DEFUNDING OBAMACARE
Saying that they needed to be in peak physical condition for their looming effort to defund Obamacare, over a hundred House Republicans lined up for their free annual physicals today.
The physicals, part of Congress’s government-subsidized health-care package, yielded good news for many of the House G.O.P., who learned that they were strong and healthy enough for the demanding task of defunding Obamacare.
“My blood pressure was lower than I thought it would be,” said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio). “That’s amazing, because it goes through the roof whenever I think about how Obamacare would destroy America.”
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Virginia)—whose free annual physical included an examination of his heart, lungs, ears, eyes, throat, and blood—said that his doctor proclaimed him in perfect physical condition: “He said I should be able to live a long, healthy life and defund Obamacare for many years to come.”
Rep. Cantor added that he had lost a few pounds since last year’s free annual physical, as he headed to lunch before defunding food stamps.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...rowitz%20(169)
Bravo Ted Cruz. Bob Corker, Sit Down.
Hugh Hewitt | Sep 20, 2013
Texas Senator Ted Cruz is drawing a lot of ire and fire from the Beltway GOP.
The eloquent and passionate Texas freshman has raised the hair on necks of the Republicans who sought a deal to avoid the unpleasantness of brinksmanship with the most incompetent president of modern times.
It is absolutely the case that the GOP will, in the end, have to vote for a Continuing Resolution that funds Obamacare. It will require winning the Senate for the GOP in 2014 and the presidency in 2016 to repeal Obamacare.
Cruz's strategy right now is to mobilize the public in 2013 so that those goals are possible in 2014 and 2016. Principled conservatives can disagree on tactics, and even on strategy, but they cannot disagree on the fact that Obamacare is killing jobs and the American health system.
Cruz and his fellow gifted rhetoricians Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio have all inveighed against Obamacare consistently and for months. They have a plan to keep the fiasco that is Obamacare front and center of the American people, and they are working the plan. They are building a movement, not a dance card, in D.C.
The House Republican leadership would have mostly preferred to fade the issue, hoping that events would break their way or at least resolve in some sort of bipartisan consensus.
Events broke their way only in the fact that this disaster of a president was revealed to the world by Vladimir Putin as a bumbling, stumbling incompetent that only the Beltway GOP could not flank.
This president won't stand up to Assad or Putin, but he will bully Beltway Republicans. That's what he does. It is the only thing he has done well in the past five years.
But the four aces of the GOP in the Senate won't be intimidated and won't be bullied, even when their colleague John McCain calls them "whacko birds."
Cruz and his colleagues rallied hundreds of thousands of voters to sign on to the effort to defund Obamacare. That's called building a network that can be mobilized in future elections. That's called playing to win, now and in 2014 and 2016.
Even as I was talking with Senator Cruz about the end game, though, a long line of Republican time-servers lined up to criticize the Texas senator for daring to rally the troops and charge the hill.
The stunner came from en led Tennessee senator Bob Corker, a very wealthy guy who won a very narrow victory in his first Senate race in 2006 with the help of serious conservatives of the sort now supporting Ted Cruz. Senator Corker won a comfortable re-election in 2012, so he thinks he doesn't need those sort of people any more. Thus he snidely attacks their favorite new face in D.C., demonstrating both envy and a profound ignorance of how quickly six years pass.
Corker, a household name in the Corker household, is a graduate of the University of Tennessee, which I had always thought a prestigious university until today. Corker made a lot of bucks in the development biz. Like Terry McAullife. Like Terry McAuliffe, Senator Corker has a hard time cabining his contempt for people who prefer ideas to bank balances.
Recall that Cruz is the son of an immigrant and an exile, that Cruz is a self-made man and a genuine intellectual, who has argued eight times before the Untied States Supreme Court.
Recall that Cruz is everything anyone would want a second generation American to be --or an any generation American to be.
So what did Corker snark out over Twitter on Thursday?
Senator Bob Corker
@SenBobCorker
14h
I didn’t go to Harvard or Princeton, but I can count -- the defunding box canyon is a tactic that will fail and weaken our position. –BC
Get it? That climber, that immigrant's kid who did good in school and excelled at Princeton and Harvard Law and is oh so smart, well Bob Corker thinks he needs to sit down and shut up. Just like Clarence Thomas needed to sit down and shut up in 1991. Just like all the Tea Party nutters need to sit down and shut up. The rich guys who bought their seats have this one. Leave it to the guys who golf.
Speaker John Boehner's aides are flooding the Huffington Post with anonymous quotes blasting Cruz for forcing the House to force the Senate Democrats to get endangered Senate Democrats Begich of Alaska, Landrieu of Louisiana, Shaheen of New Hampshire, Pryor of Arkansas and Udall of Colorado to vote again for or against Obamacare, thus opening them up for devastating and deserved attacks in 2014.
The K Street Republicans, however, are really and truly enraged that Cruz is trying to win the Senate back and really intends to get rid of Obamacare. The country club Republicans are upset he didn't wait his turn and is getting more press than they are.
Bravo, Ted Cruz. And Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. Press on. The country's in a bad place with a lost-in-space president. Ignore the sniping from the time-servers and the past-their-sell-date GOP. Reagan would be applauding.
http://townhall.com/columnists/hughh...1705054/page/2
Is someone tickling you?
This apparently is the strategy. Keep 0bamacare front and center before the American public enabeling the Republicans to bring the hammer down on the Dems in 2014 and take the White House in 2016. I hope it works so I can come here and see heads explode.
Strategy
its ridiculous to think that the ACA will be repealed in 2016 once it's in full effect.
There He/She Goes Again!
VWRC...1%ers....repugs....bubbas....hmo fellators........Strategy
its ridiculous to think that the ACA will be repealed in 2016 once it's in full effect.
Eeasy-Peasey.
I believe 0bamacare will be exposed for the train wreck that it is by then, and those elected officials that supported it will get the boot. True Americans can only hope that's the way this plays out anyway.Strategy
its ridiculous to think that the ACA will be repealed in 2016 once it's in full effect.
Last edited by Th'Pusher; 09-20-2013 at 12:49 PM.
Chortle away fool, because we plan on...
Maddow: Obamacare is turning into the GOP’s Waterloo and it’s awesome
On Thursday night’s edition of “The Rachel Maddow Show,” host Rachel Maddow relished the current disarray among D.C. Republicans over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, also known as “Obamacare.”
Maddow prefaced the segment with the same warning that runs before MSNBC’s popular prison shows: “Due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised.”
“Okay, now you have been warned,” said Maddow. “Now, here’s Dana Bash on CNN.”
She then played a clip of Bash saying the now-infamous quote of a House Republican aide saying that Texas state Rep. Wendy Davis (D) has “more balls than Ted Cruz.”
“That is the way that Republicans in Washington are talking about each other now,” Maddow said, which is ironic considering that back in 2009, when the future of Democratic health care reform was in doubt, Republicans were full of hubris.
“If we can stop him on this,” said Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) at the time, “it will be his Waterloo. It will break him.”
“The Republicans and the conservatives did not get that Waterloo,” Maddow said. “Health reform passed. It became law. It got ruled cons utional by the United States Supreme Court and it’s now going into effect.”
“And now the political effect of health reform does turn out to be the aforementioned Waterloo,” she continued, “but the side that is breaking apart is not President Obama’s side. It is the other side.”
As pragmatic Republicans try to find a graceful way to allow Obamacare to progress unimpeded, the tea party caucus is trying to engineer a government shutdown rather than let the law go into effect. As a result, the two sides are hurling furious invective at each other.
When Cruz was confronted by reporters with the Wendy Davis remark, he responded, “I’ve always been impressed with the courage of anonymous congressional aides.”
Arkansas Republican Rep. Tim Griffin tweeted on Thursday that Senate Republicans “are good at getting Facebook likes, and townhalls, and not much else. Do something.”
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) pushed back in an interview that the shutdown supporters are “mostly new and don’t have the experience” in Congress that he does, and therefore don’t understand how these things work. He invoked the catastrophic government shutdowns engineered by then House Speaker Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) in 1995, which backfired spectacularly on the Republicans and paved the way for a second term for Pres. Bill Clinton.
“I can tell you,” McCain said, “in the United States Senate, we will not repeal or defund Obamacare. We will not. And to think we can is not rational.”
“Again, there are no Democrats in these fights,” Maddow observed. “There are no liberals in these fights. This is all Republicans and conservatives going after each other and it has been amazing to watch.”
Watch the video, embedded below via MSNBC:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/2...d-its-awesome/
suit yourself. Just know that there is an entire industry built around rousing hyper-emotional deluded rabble just like yourself and the entertainers that profit off of your ignorance and emotion don't even believe half the bull they spew.Chortle away fool, because we plan on...
Yes; however right now (and it has always been this way in group insurance) the 64 year old is paying exactly what the 24 year old is paying. When the 64 year old was 24, he was paying what the then 64 year olds were paying - he's not getting his payback.
Sounds like the cost of more price transparency.
“I’ve always been impressed with the courage of anonymous congressional aides.”
Age has been an underwriting factor from before the AC. This is nothing new. They are just eliminating other underwriting factors from the equation. This notion that insurance has not charged old people more as a matter of course the entire time is laughable. They will use whatever underwriting factors they can because it gives better projections and thus more certainty.
I want to see evidence of where a major insurer, say Blue Cross, is going to be using individualized underwriting factors for business plans AND where old s are being charged 3 times as much and not getting paychecks. This just sounds to me like you are pulling individual policies pricing.
Yeah that was a good quote. Ted Cruz IS the smartest man in the room. Liberals are scared less of this guy and that's why they're trying to destroy him. There's an article every other day questioning his eligibility to be President, and our own bouton- never misses a chance to slam him. Cruz is bouton's worst nightmare.
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