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No, but honestly we need more preventive care in America tbh.
I'm for Obama and the politicians signing up for Obamacare though
Where did I say I'm for defunding? I simply think it's doomed for failure.
Why doesn't the entire government get the exact same Obama care they are forcing upon the people?
No, but honestly we need more preventive care in America tbh.
I'm for Obama and the politicians signing up for Obamacare though
Cruz is filibustering today, right now.
Harry explained that a filibuster is to block business, specifically to block voting,
but Harry pointed out that there is no vote Tuesday for Cruz' filibuster to block, the vote is Wednesday.
ing tea baggers, ing Repugs, they don't give a about governing, so they don't know how government works, they are truly, WILLFULLY ignorant s, the Know Nothing gang. (but they do know extremely well where their campaign contributions come from, which is who they really work for )
And Cruz keeps talking!
ing TX assholes who elected this ING asshole.
How is he forcing it on the American people when you, him and I are not going to be taking part in healthcare exchanges?
Bravo Ted Cruz. Bob Corker, Sit Down.
Hugh Hewitt | Sep 20, 2013
Texas Senator Ted Cruz is drawing a lot of ire and fire from the Beltway GOP.
The eloquent and passionate Texas freshman has raised the hair on necks of the Republicans who sought a deal to avoid the unpleasantness of brinksmanship with the most incompetent president of modern times.
It is absolutely the case that the GOP will, in the end, have to vote for a Continuing Resolution that funds Obamacare. It will require winning the Senate for the GOP in 2014 and the presidency in 2016 to repeal Obamacare.
Cruz's strategy right now is to mobilize the public in 2013 so that those goals are possible in 2014 and 2016. Principled conservatives can disagree on tactics, and even on strategy, but they cannot disagree on the fact that Obamacare is killing jobs and the American health system.
Cruz and his fellow gifted rhetoricians Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio have all inveighed against Obamacare consistently and for months. They have a plan to keep the fiasco that is Obamacare front and center of the American people, and they are working the plan. They are building a movement, not a dance card, in D.C.
The House Republican leadership would have mostly preferred to fade the issue, hoping that events would break their way or at least resolve in some sort of bipartisan consensus.
Events broke their way only in the fact that this disaster of a president was revealed to the world by Vladimir Putin as a bumbling, stumbling incompetent that only the Beltway GOP could not flank.
This president won't stand up to Assad or Putin, but he will bully Beltway Republicans. That's what he does. It is the only thing he has done well in the past five years.
But the four aces of the GOP in the Senate won't be intimidated and won't be bullied, even when their colleague John McCain calls them "whacko birds."
Cruz and his colleagues rallied hundreds of thousands of voters to sign on to the effort to defund Obamacare. That's called building a network that can be mobilized in future elections. That's called playing to win, now and in 2014 and 2016.
Even as I was talking with Senator Cruz about the end game, though, a long line of Republican time-servers lined up to criticize the Texas senator for daring to rally the troops and charge the hill.
The stunner came from en led Tennessee senator Bob Corker, a very wealthy guy who won a very narrow victory in his first Senate race in 2006 with the help of serious conservatives of the sort now supporting Ted Cruz. Senator Corker won a comfortable re-election in 2012, so he thinks he doesn't need those sort of people any more. Thus he snidely attacks their favorite new face in D.C., demonstrating both envy and a profound ignorance of how quickly six years pass.
Corker, a household name in the Corker household, is a graduate of the University of Tennessee, which I had always thought a prestigious university until today. Corker made a lot of bucks in the development biz. Like Terry McAullife. Like Terry McAuliffe, Senator Corker has a hard time cabining his contempt for people who prefer ideas to bank balances.
Recall that Cruz is the son of an immigrant and an exile, that Cruz is a self-made man and a genuine intellectual, who has argued eight times before the Untied States Supreme Court.
Recall that Cruz is everything anyone would want a second generation American to be --or an any generation American to be.
So what did Corker snark out over Twitter on Thursday?
Senator Bob Corker
@SenBobCorker
14h
I didn’t go to Harvard or Princeton, but I can count -- the defunding box canyon is a tactic that will fail and weaken our position. –BC
Get it? That climber, that immigrant's kid who did good in school and excelled at Princeton and Harvard Law and is oh so smart, well Bob Corker thinks he needs to sit down and shut up. Just like Clarence Thomas needed to sit down and shut up in 1991. Just like all the Tea Party nutters need to sit down and shut up. The rich guys who bought their seats have this one. Leave it to the guys who golf.
Speaker John Boehner's aides are flooding the Huffington Post with anonymous quotes blasting Cruz for forcing the House to force the Senate Democrats to get endangered Senate Democrats Begich of Alaska, Landrieu of Louisiana, Shaheen of New Hampshire, Pryor of Arkansas and Udall of Colorado to vote again for or against Obamacare, thus opening them up for devastating and deserved attacks in 2014.
The K Street Republicans, however, are really and truly enraged that Cruz is trying to win the Senate back and really intends to get rid of Obamacare. The country club Republicans are upset he didn't wait his turn and is getting more press than they are.
Bravo, Ted Cruz. And Mike Lee, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. Press on. The country's in a bad place with a lost-in-space president. Ignore the sniping from the time-servers and the past-their-sell-date GOP. Reagan would be applauding.
http://townhall.com/columnists/hughh...1705054/page/2
The lengths this fool from my State has gone to...
Just to get his mug seen.
Amazing what a self centered fool Cruz is.
So there is no better way to torpedo legislation you hate... Really? You got nothing else? Nothing?
C'mon don't play dumb. Millions will feel this negatively. Consider yourself fortunate, I do.
None nearly so effective at creating public debate.
And honesty, anyone paying a bit of attention to what Cruz has been doing recently would have seen this coming a mile away
None.
Because Cruz either does not think there was any health care problem before Obama, or he has not a clue what to do like most republicans on the teabent thought train.
And, he is a prima Donna, I need attention, basket case who wants the next step up. Pure politician, no thought of public service.
Recently? He was a self centered narcissist before he was elected.
I will stand on hot coals and allow Lobsters to pinch my testicles while I speak out against Obamacare. Much like Christ, I will burn my sole and soil my pants but I shall speak.
*cue shaky preacher speak*
The law itself is abysmal, and since it doesn't address cost, it will still be expensive as to get insured if you're not getting it from your employer.
But strategically speaking, it's besides the point. The GOP simply does not have the votes, and while the temper tantrums might rally the boobie4three of the base, those are votes they already have. It's the folk in the middle they keep on alienating by going full re by parading the fringe guys, and being incredibly scared of what certain groups might put on their "scorecard".
The first thing the GOP needs to understand is that the vessel to power is winning elections, and in this day and age, considering the demographics and all, you need an all-inclusive message (even if it's bull ).
If America would be as scared of Barrycare as Cruz is, then they wouldn't have kept this guy in office a year ago, nor gained seats in the Senate. What that tells me, IMO, is that while people might not like a lot of things about Barry, Barrycare or dems, they're actually more scared of the message and characters coming from the red team. It's simply unconscionable the GOP doesn't control both chambers after that terrible first term, and lose so badly when you're running against Joe ing Biden.
So much talk about soul searching and lessons learned after the last election, but they haven't changed a lick. I was hoping they would take over both chambers in next year's mid-term, but I'm not even sure if they can pull it off anymore.
The issues are irrelevant. Cult of personality wins every time. It's why reagan won, why clinton won, why Bush II won, and why Obama won.
There is some of that, but I would be inclined to disagree. The problem is that 'the issues' are very different for different people, and when you get to the level of diversity we have now, it's even more important. IE: Latinos in general don't care about drones, abortion or the NSA, they care about things like immigration. So when your message is 'self-deportation' it resonates like crap.
It's Wednesday Morning and Ted Cruz Is Still Talking
THE LATEST:
6:20 a.m.: Senator Marco Rubio of Florida is currently giving Cruz a breather, while extoling the virtues of the free enterprise system.
1:12 a.m.: Ted Cruz is now reading the lyrics to Toby Keith's "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue." He chose not to sing the lyrics, joking that doing so might violate the Geneva Convention.
Ryan J. Reilly ✔ @ryanjreilly
Ted Cruz quoting Obama supporter Toby Keith
12:44 a.m.: Mike Lee (R-Utah) has been speaking for about 20 minutes at this point, calling the Supreme's Court ACA decision the act of a "super-legislative" body.
11:41 p.m.: Cruz is reading tweets again, following a slight hiccup.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...talking/69817/
so they're going to babble on all day Wed, the day of the vote?
Nice goin, Texas Repugs and kickers, you gave us assholes dubya, rickybobby, and now this flaming egomaniac UnSanta Cruz.
Club for Growth sticks by Ted Cruz on Obamacare, will score cloture vote
By Sean Sullivan, Published: September 24 at 2:38 pm
The Club For Growth stood with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) Tuesday, calling for senators to vote against cloture on a stopgap spending bill that passed the House last week. The conservative, anti-tax group said it would it include the vote on its 2013 scorecard.
"To keep the House defund language secure, and to continue using the leverage of the continuing resolution, opponents of ObamaCare should vote "NO" on the cloture vote to end debate," wrote the group's vice president of government affairs Andy Roth in a note to congressional offices.
Cruz has been urging his colleagues to vote against cloture on the bill that keeps the government running and defunds Obamacare, even though the measure is exactly what he's long demanded.
Why? Because he wants to prevent Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) from stripping out the defund provision and passing a new continuing resolution that restores funding for the health-care law with a simple majority. Under Senate rules, Reid can do that.
Cruz has failed to win the support of high-ranking Republicans for his plan. On Monday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Minority Whip John Cornyn (R-Tex.) both said they won't seek to block the bill. Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) joined them Tuesday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-cloture-vote/
Taking names. Finding out who's with us or a'gin us.
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/
Administration Touts Lower-Than-Expected Obamacare Premiums
Premiums in the health insurance exchanges set to open next week will be lower than anticipated, the Obama administration announced Wednesday.
According to a released by the Department of Health and Human Services, "premiums nationwide will ... be around 16 percent lower than originally expected," and 95 percent of uninsured people live in a state with average premiums that are lower than expected.
But while the premium "" that many predicted may not be materializing, there may be other things about the new health plans that consumers may not like that much.
Until now, the only premium information that's been released publicly about the Obamacare exchanges has been for states running their own, and in many, the rates have been .
Now, however, the administration has released information for the 36 states where the federal government will operate the new exchanges in full or in part.
"Six in 10 Americans who currently lack insurance will be able to find coverage that costs less than $100 a month," HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told reporters in a conference call.
And in some cases, available tax credits can make health insurance really inexpensive. For example, said Sebelius, "Dallas families earning $50,000 a year will be able to buy quality coverage for as little as $26 a month."
One reason for the lower-than-expected premiums is higher-than-expected participation by insurance companies.
All year, it seemed that many , at least for this first year of the program. A few states and some counties within states will only have spotty compe ion. But administration officials say people in the 36 states where the feds are in charge will have an average of 56 different plans to choose from, offered by multiple insurance companies.
And compe ion is key to those lower rates.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013...acare-premiums
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/5/article/p2p-77538217/
Sabotaging Health Care, One Lie at a Time
A Koch-brothers funded conservative group, Generation Opportunity, is out with a wildly misleading, pernicious set of ads aimed at sabotaging the Affordable Care Act by discouraging young people from signing up for health insurance exchanges.
One targets young men, the other young women. In the “for him” version, a young man tells his doctor that he saw an ad for the Affordable Care Act and “figured, why not?” The doctor tells him to take his pants off, “hop up here, lay down and bend your knees to your chest.” He leaves the room. Then a man wearing an Uncle Sam mask snaps on a blue glove. As if the message weren’t perfectly clear, the ad states: “Don’t let government play doctor.”
The “for her” version is much the same, except in that case Uncle Sam’s performing a gynecological exam.
The ads are as offensive as they are derivative.
During the 2012 campaign, the reproductive rights site Lady Parts Justice released a web video attacking laws requiring women to undergo medically unnecessary ultrasounds before receiving abortions. In that spot, a woman with her feet in stirrups explains that she wants an abortion because she’s “just not emotionally or financially ready to have kids right now.” The doctor, sitting between her legs, responds, “OK, well, just so you know, the law says that before I can do that, I need to do some things to you that you need to pay extra for. You know, just some things that will help you better understand what it is you really want.” These “things” include inserting a camera into her vagina and looking at pictures of what’s inside her uterus.
But that video made sense—states actually did pass laws interfering with the doctor-patient relationship—whereas the Generation Opportunity ads perpetuate outright lies. Young people who sign up for exchanges won’t be getting access to government-run healthcare (if only they were!), but to privately run insurance. Nor does the A.C.A. force doctors to ask patients about their sex lives or perform unwanted exams—as Politifact explained recently. Under the A.C.A., government doesn’t “play doctor,” it merely enables access to doctors who then decide, using their professional judgment, the best course of action.
Signing up for an exchange isn’t an act of political (or sexual) submission. It’s just a way to get insurance if you don’t have a job or your employer doesn’t provide it. The Generation Opportunity crowd surely knows that and obviously
doesn’t care because its priority now, as ever, is bringing down President Obama’s signature domestic accomplishment. The group also doesn’t care about the possibility that some number of young people, scared by its ads, will forgo access to affordable care, get sick, and go bankrupt paying their medical bills.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/taki...om=mostemailed
and the insurers doing their best to up ACA, with the cartels of narrowed provider networks
Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices
many insurers are significantly limiting the choices of doctors and hospitals available to consumers.
From California to Illinois to New Hampshire, and in many states in between, insurers are driving down premiums by restricting the number of providers who will treat patients in their new health plans.
When insurance marketplaces open on Oct. 1, most of those shopping for coverage will be low- and moderate-income people for whom price is paramount. To hold down costs, insurers say, they have created smaller networks of doctors and hospitals than are typically found in commercial insurance. And those health care providers will, in many cases, be paid less than what they have been receiving from commercial insurers.
Some consumer advocates and health care providers are increasingly concerned. Decades of experience with Medicaid, the program for low-income people, show that having an insurance card does not guarantee access to specialists or other providers.
Consumers should be prepared for “much tighter, narrower networks” of doctors and hospitals, said Adam M. Linker, a health policy analyst at the North Carolina Justice Center, a statewide advocacy group.
“That can be positive for consumers if it holds down premiums and drives people to higher-quality providers,” Mr. Linker said. “But there is also a risk because, under some health plans, consumers can end up with astronomical costs if they go to providers outside the network.”
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/09/23...WT.z_mob_rel=1
Can't find the article now, but one network of clinics and hospitals that serves low-income people is being excluded from all the provider networks in CA.
For-profit health care, still a huge ripoff, scam, wealth redistribution upwards.
For example, said Sebelius, "Dallas families earning $50,000 a year will be able to buy quality coverage for as little as $26 a month."
Drink the Kool-Aid my friend.
DC Republicans in Full Panic Mode: Obamacare Will Be Hugely Popular and There's Little the GOP Can Do to Stop It
They can’t stop it from taking effect, just as they haven’t been able to repeal or defund it in every federal budget fight since it passed in 2009—including their latest rants.
Moreover, there’s billions already in the fiscal pipeline to states to implement the health insurance market reforms, whether or not there’s a federal government shutdown. Thus, their posturing, such as Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s latest billfor complete defunding and his Tuesday filibuster, needs to be seen as the old cliché it is: a desperate measure for their desperate time.
What’s scaring Republicans is that the president’s most significant domestic initiative is about to hit prime time. Starting October 1, it is poised to start delivering on its central promise, which is giving millions of Americans more and cheaper choices to buy health insurance. These policies would be obtained from state-run insurance pools, or by a federal-run pool that would be accessed in person or online, and will take effect January 1. Poor people get tax refunds to buy insurance, although those won’t be seen until after next year’s taxes.
http://admin.alternet.org/personal-h...tter900814&t=5
which specific millions? the millions of red-state poor, including whites, that Repugs are blocking from participating in ACA?
great comeback, always full of facts, evidence, cogent argument.For example, said Sebelius, "Dallas families earning $50,000 a year will be able to buy quality coverage for as little as $26 a month."
Drink the Kool-Aid my friend.
Irony alert.
Hey Millenials! This ACA cluster is about to kick you in the nuts. And thanks for picking up the cost of my mom's heath care.
BHO, mmm mmm mmm
Have a nice day!
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