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    I agree with this. If they think ObamaCare will turn out to be a train wreck, just leave it alone and use it against them in the next election.
    tie your political fortunes to things getting worse and being able to blame it all on the other guy. that has happened quite often in the past.

    worked great for the GOP in 2012, wouldn't you say?

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    an epochal financial panic twinned with an anemic recovery did NOT propel Obama to certain defeat in 2012, as widely predicted on this board.
    It probably would have if the idiot Republicans didn't run on ending Medicare.

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    It probably would have if the idiot Republicans didn't run on ending Medicare.
    Romney also ran on repeal/replace ACA

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    Romney also ran on repeal/replace ACA
    He could have survived that without his teabagger VP trying to end Medicare for everyone but the boomers.

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    I'll still never understand Romney going teabagger when he was already getting their anti-nigger vote anyways.

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    He could have survived that without his teabagger VP trying to end Medicare for everyone but the boomers.
    don't forget his Randian 47% moochers/takers comment to his live audience of 1% right-wing assholes.

    he also ran on repealing all financial regulation

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    don't forget his Randian 47% moochers/takers comment to his live audience of 1% right-wing assholes.

    he also ran on repealing all financial regulation
    If I was Romney I would have done just like Christie is doing right now and pretend to be a level-headed centrist. Then he could go full teabagger after conning the public.

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    What about all of the happy excellent go-getter at ude white employees that are affected by this?
    Collateral damage, though rest assured their education and work ethic will land them other jobs.

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    Collateral damage, though rest assured their education and work ethic will land them other jobs.
    not in this economy

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    What about all of the happy excellent go-getter at ude white employees that are affected by this?
    Collateral damage, though rest assured their education and work ethic will land them other jobs.

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    government workers will now have about as much downtime as this forum's 24/7 posters do.

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    by the way, the next thread should be the debt ceiling preview/predictions

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    I just want to know where all my god damn roads have gone

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    THE REIGN OF MORONS IS HERE

    In the year of our Lord 2010, the voters of the United States elected the worst Congress in the history of the Republic. There have been Congresses more dilatory. There have been Congresses more irresponsible, though not many of them. There have been lazier Congresses, more vicious Congresses, and Congresses less capable of seeing forests for trees. But there has never been in a single Congress -- or, more precisely, in a single House of the Congress -- a more lethal combination of political ambition, political stupidity, and political vainglory than exists in this one, which has arranged to shut down the federal government because it disapproves of a law passed by a previous Congress, signed by the president, and upheld by the Supreme Court, a law that does nothing more than extend the possibility of health insurance to the millions of Americans who do not presently have it, a law based on a proposal from a conservative think-tank and taken out on the test track in Massachusetts by a Republican governor who also happens to have been the party's 2012 nominee for president of the United States. That is why the government of the United States is, in large measure, closed this morning.

    We have elected an ungovernable collection of snake-handlers, Bible-bangers, ignorami, bagmen and outright frauds, a collection so ungovernable that it insists the nation be ungovernable, too.

    We have elected people to govern us who do not believe in government.

    We have elected a national legislature in which Louie Gohmert and Michele Bachmann have more power than does the Speaker of the House of Representatives, who has been made a piteous spectacle in the eyes of the country and doesn't seem to mind that at all. We have elected a national legislature in which the true power resides in a cabal of vandals, a nihilistic brigade that believes that its opposition to a bill directing millions of new customers to the nation's insurance companies is the equivalent of standing up the the Nazis in 1938, to the bravery of the passengers on Flight 93 on September 11, 2001, and to Mel Gibson's account of the Scottish Wars of Independence in the 13th Century. We have elected a national legislature that looks into the mirror and sees itself already cast in marble.


    We did this. We looked at our great legacy of self-government and we handed ourselves over to the reign of morons.


    This is what they came to Washington to do -- to break the government of the United States.

    It doesn't matter any more whether they're doing it out of pure crackpot ideology, or at the behest of the various sugar daddies that back their campaigns, or at the instigation of their party's mouthbreathing base. It may be any one of those reasons. It may be all of them. The government of the United States, in the first three words of its founding charter, belongs to all of us, and these people have broken it deliberately.

    The true of it, though, is that you could see this coming down through the years,

    all the way from Ronald Reagan's First Inaugural Address in which government "was" the problem,


    through Bill Clinton's ameliorative nonsense about the era of big government being "over,"

    through the attempts to make a charlatan like Newt Gingrich into a scholar and

    an ambitious hack like Paul Ryan into a budget genius, and

    through all the endless attempts to find "common ground" and a "Third Way."

    Ultimately, as we all wrapped ourselves in good intentions, a prion disease was eating away at the country's higher functions. One of the ways you can acquire a prion disease is to eat right out of its skull the brains of an infected monkey.

    We are now seeing the country reeling and jabbering from the effects of the prion disease, but it was during the time of Reagan that the country ate the monkey brains.

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Shutdown_Blues

    iow, America is ed and un able.
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    Republicans already caving on national parks.

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    I dont really keep up with political stuff so can someone tell me whats the worse case scenario this can lead to for us as a country? or is this not that big of a deal in the big picture

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    I dont really keep up with political stuff so can someone tell me whats the worse case scenario this can lead to for us as a country? or is this not that big of a deal in the big picture
    Not really a big deal.

    I did did get a chuckle from some of the govt websites that are denying access, probably as a FY gesture. NASA even has their message in Spanish -- lol

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    I dont really keep up with political stuff so can someone tell me whats the worse case scenario this can lead to for us as a country? or is this not that big of a deal in the big picture
    Big picture is it could return the House to The Democrats if it goes on long enough to really things up.

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    Big picture is it could return the House to The Democrats if it goes on long enough to really things up.
    Yep, that is a possibility.

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    Repugs proposing a bunch of mini-CRs.

    Fox's rich talking heads, still being paid, are saying the shutdown is a pinprick, nothing to worry about, no big deal.

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    mini-CRs didn't even get passed by the House!

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    pure bull . self-ridicule by reason.com

    President is not a king, as demonstrated by 40 assholes in one of the 3 branches have incredible power of the negative, of NO, and the President is powerless to overcome, unlike a king or military dictator.
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    Not really a big deal.

    I did did get a chuckle from some of the govt websites that are denying access, probably as a FY gesture. NASA even has their message in Spanish -- lol
    Are you sure its a FY message? Sometimes they are mandated not to operate. Some of the USGS sites I use are up but others are down. NOAA is down but the NWS is operating.

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